Physical vs Non-physical:
Spacial vs non spacial, public vs private, objective vs subjective, deterministic vs autonomous, accessible by the senses vs not, and many many more.
That's an unsubstantiated claim. We know our consciousness directly and everything else through it. That includes matter.
Only if you start from a position of solipsism.
Besides the things we are discussing...
And simply because we discuss these, it is evidence?
Experience, argumentation like cosmological and teleological and Platonic arguments, scientific evidence like life fields, the Paleolithic Revolution, etc.
None of which prove the existence of deities or ghosts, as claimed.
Not at all. Mathematical ontology objectively exists, even if it's not assigned terms by an intelligent species with language.
I disagree. Math is an invented language that we use to order our thoughts. it is useful for building models which have predictive value. But the objects of mathematics do not exist independent of our thoughts about them. And I say this as a working mathematician.
But that's ok, people like
@Audie will still pretend people like you who hold this position don't exist at all haha!
I guess it is possible to be wrong in more than one way.
But you ignore that mental events also effect Consciousness. You ignore that you can't even do science or know matter except through consciousness. You expect me to accept you position despite only having one piece of evidence that doesn't even suggest materialism any more than Dualism or idealism. I know standards of evidence are technically subjective but... Have higher standards.
OK, what evidence would support dualism or Idealism over materialism? We know matter exists. We know that our thoughts, emotions, etc, are greatly affected by the material aspects of our brains. We can point to specific places in the brain that mediate various mental activities (like language, planning, etc). This goes way beyond simply being a transmitter.
So you damage the brain and consciosness gets staticy, same as a broken tv. Does that mean the channels cease to exist? You can disconnect it from consciosness with anesthetic like turning off a radio, does that mean the radio music ceases to exist? higher standards.
And once again, there is energy coming into the radio, being thrown out from the transmitter, and it has consequences other than what we see in our radio receivers. In the case of consciousness, however, the only consequences are through our brains. That alone points to the brains being the significant factor and not something outside of them.
Unless, that is, you have evidence of energy coming in?
In all fairness, everyone should ignore those who believe logic is not objective. That's a terrifying stance.
Which logic? Aristotle's? Boyle's? propositional, prepositional, modal, three-valued? And why not quantum logic? The point is that there are many logical systems and which one, which language, is useful is to be determined by observation and testing. Some logical systems do away with the law of excluded middle. Some do away with using arguments from contradiction. Some require formal construction of every step. Some allow existence proofs without such construction.
Perhaps you should look into the variety of different sorts of 'logic' before you decide what is scary and what is not?
