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any weapons on you?
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methylatedghosts
Can't brain. Has dumb.
Sigh..Again, Taking reasonable safety precautions against substantial risks isn't an issue of fear. Do people who wear set belts while driving automobiles, or who wear helmets while riding bikes, or who keep a fire extinguisher in the kitchen, or who wear life-vests while boating, or who wear safety glasses while doing construction work, etc. live in constant fear of accidents? Of course not. Perhaps people are projecting their own fears regarding objects that make loud, scary noises? The knee-jerk reactions are rather telling.
Also, I think those in a state of submission, or subdued by the kiddy harness, hold a tinge of resentment toward those who are not under such a thumb.
And another thing that was already mentioned is that the U.S. has a higher level of cultural and economic diversity than these tiny, homogeneous, statist nations.
I knew that'd draw a response from you
So ok, I am aware that some areas are scary. There are definitely areas in my city I wouldn't walk through at night. But not once have I felt a need for a weapon in any of the places I've lived. One guy I lived with kept asoftball bat near the front door, but he was paranoid about a lot of things.
What I am saying though, is that I was genuinely surprised that so many people do arm themselves. It's not a commonly done thing here. Although I suppose holding a key between the fingers of your fist, when you're walking late at night through a darker street counts as a weapon.
I also am saying that I do feel that arming oneself against potential threats does come from a place of fear. I just simply don't fear that it would happen - in the place I live and the areas I frequent. I feel totally safe. And if having that sense of security earns the title of cupcake, I would wear it proudly.
I do have one question. Economic diversity, that's a driver for a lot of crime here, but I am unaware of a relation between amount of cultural diversity and crime. Do you have a source? Maybe I can learn something today
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
Here I am wearing one of my shirts.
(OK, it's not me, & it's not my shirt...but you get the idea.)
OMG! I realized after posting this pic that he TUCKS HIS SHIRT IN!
That is an offense against Pele!
They are to be worn loose & free, ie, the upper body version of going commando!
AAaaaaaahhhhhh!
Rev..... you look something like that?
You don't need a gun.
They will run.......
OK..... you would need to do up one more button, but if you wanted to go somewhere that bothered you, you could wear a knife resistant vest under that. Hell... you would fold up that beautiful shirt and put on something somber!!
Downside:
Armoured vests are very very hot in summer.
Such a lightweight vest could not possibly stop a bullet. One big problem is that some bullets can carry parts of such a vest deep into the body, and not all synthetic fibres show up on 'scans' and 'xrays'.
Upside:-
A person can feel slightly more confident.
Knives can actually penetrate such vests, but are usually stopped before they touch a vital organ.
An attacker will probably not be able to pull a knife free. It's yours.
In winter-time they can be very comfortable.
Obviously, everything about security and safety is a compromise, a mish-mask of benefits and drawbacks. One member made fun, using a pic of a toddler in reins yet points out that safety belts in cars are sensible. Go over the top and folks will think you're a sissy, don't go far enough and folks will say you're irresponsible. Everybody is a frigging expert..... in hindsight.
Unsubstantiated claims do not count as education.
That's your own incorrect assumption. I'm quite secure in my intelligence, thank you very much, and it doesn't have anything to do with denying anything. The problem is that there is no credible evidence, so I'm being given nothing to work with. Here's an analogy:
int add(){
return num1 + num2;
}
int main(){
int number = add();
return 0;
}
Nope, it's real security.
Or do you not believe in psychological warfare?
Sorry, but no good evidence has been provided, so there's nothing to know beyond your unsubstantiated claims. Anecdotes don't count, because abduction experiences, while definitely traumatizing, aren't likely to be anything more than just sleep paralysis, the same thing that gave rise to succubus/incubus experiences and inspired the Nightmare painting.
The human mind is its own greatest deceiver. You can't simply will me to believe your claims.
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ResistETIntervention
Active Member
I agree. Einstein claimed some falsity that nothing can travel faster than the speed of light without bothering to substantiate it. I and many others can attest to the fact that extraterrestrial spaceships can travel at superluminal speeds, as do modern scientists who claim that electrons move about at speeds "close to the luminal speed." Yet, the mass of my body is not infinitely heavy with trillions of electrons in my body moving that fast.
I actually know that this is going on, and that is one of the tactics that the Extraterrestrial Intervention has been employing. I've been telling you this.
Apparently, I've been wasting my time providing all those evidences then.
Again, I agree. You're a very good example of it.
You can attest to it, but unless you can actually provide an actual ship, or show the mathematical calculations (not to me; I wouldn't understand them), then its an attestation that's completely without any real basis.
That's not what psychological warfare is.
No evidence was provided. Just conjecture.
Every single individual is a very good example of it. Without exception. I am, you are, Einstein was, Stephen Hawking is, Bill Gates is, the cashier at the restaurant is.
It's one of the things that makes us human.
ResistETIntervention
Active Member
I think you know very well that you're kidding around, if you're asking me to provide an actual extraterrestrial spaceship or "mathematical calculations" that somehow demonstrate there are or are not ETs present in our world. Your statements undermine your intelligence greatly.
Then you do understand what the ETs are doing in the mental environment, I take.
No, I have provided evidences. You have provided only conjectures and asinine claims without any basis. You were never able to provide any evidence that what I have provided to you in the thread are false.
Now the thread has digressed quite a bit.
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Terrywoodenpic
Oldest Heretic
What is all this weirdo ET stuff doing in a weapons (knives) thread.
Taken as fantasy it makes good Tv. but it should not be taken seriously or it can lead to psychosis.
Taken as fantasy it makes good Tv. but it should not be taken seriously or it can lead to psychosis.
ResistETIntervention
Active Member
That is the reason that I said the discussion has digressed. However, if you believe that the ET Intervention is a "weirdo stuff" to be "taken as fantasy," you're in for a shock of your life. Yet, it's better to be shocked now than later when it it's already too late for any human beings to take actions to counteract these ETs. http://www.religiousforums.com/foru...ting-mostly-reported-west-10.html#post3551999
ResistETIntervention
Active Member
What might you be implying? Since this thread has digressed already, we can discuss further in other threads.
DreadFish
Cosmic Vagabond
Im just implying that it sounds just like the thing from Doctor Who, that is all.
Do with it what you will.
Well, sorry, but that's what it would take: something tangible: either a ship that can do it, or the math formula that clearly shows that FTL travel is possible without going back in time (which is what would happen.)
Interstellar travel is far more likely to be done with wormholes.
I've never seen any indication that they're even there.
Psychological warfare involves a person being more afraid of a knife than a gun, even though the latter is technically more deadly. It involves my strategy from earlier of basically acting like a complete madman, screeching and hooting like a chimp (or the Neanderthals from Quest for Fire), and banging sticks together, scaring the startled assailant away because that's something so alien, so crazy, and so contrary to what's expected of a human being's behavior that they suddenly don't know what to do. They've lost control of the situation, and are now scared. Now that they're scared, I have control, and can get away.
You've provided a few books. Books aren't evidence, because they can potentially contain lies and misinformation. You've provided anecdotes: the lowest, most unreliable form of evidence.
Did I miss anything? I certainly HOPE you're not getting any of your information from Erich von Daniken or his protoge Giorgio Tsoukalos, 'cause those men are just buffoons who have no idea what they're talking about.
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ResistETIntervention
Active Member
Try formulating your existence of yourself mathematically and see how foolish that attempt is. Paranormal Activities - Religious Education Forum
Wormholes don't exist. Extraterrestrials travel at superluminal speeds without folding time/space. Those concepts are merely human imaginations.
Such tactics are exactly what the ET Intervention has been employing in order to induce people to speak and act in the manners they want.
I have no idea who they are.
I will have to leave you in the darkness of ignorance, as you chose to be there.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Except that no one has said or implied this at all.
Unless, of course, you by "read" you meant "pull out of your ***"."Coward" was someone else's language. They implied those who arm themselves as a precautionary measure are fearful. I raised the point that, if that were true, then those who resort to other precautionary measures (bike helmets, seat belts, fire extinguishers, etc.) must also live in fear. I was pointing out the inconsistency and hypocrisy of their logic. But I guess it is rather silly to expect for emotional, knee-jerk reactions toward the subject to be consistent or logical.
Either people suffer from extremely poor reading comprehension, or they're prone to dodging and misrepresenting opposing points. Their side of the argument must be rather untenable if they find it necessary to resort to the latter.
I have a very large and very heavy iron fry pan.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
I knew that'd draw a response from you
So ok, I am aware that some areas are scary. There are definitely areas in my city I wouldn't walk through at night. But not once have I felt a need for a weapon in any of the places I've lived. One guy I lived with kept asoftball bat near the front door, but he was paranoid about a lot of things.
What I am saying though, is that I was genuinely surprised that so many people do arm themselves. It's not a commonly done thing here. Although I suppose holding a key between the fingers of your fist, when you're walking late at night through a darker street counts as a weapon.
Okay? Individuals weigh the risks and make the decisions for themselves. Also, there is a difference between Hobbiton (even at night) and Compton (even during the day).
It's not a "sense of security" that earns the title of cupcake, it's a patronizing, pretentious attitude that earns the title of cupcake. I don't understand how that wasn't clear.
And again (perhaps you'll feel secure enough to address this), does wearing a seat belt while riding an automobile, or a wearing a helmet while riding a bicycle, or wearing safety glasses while doing construction/industrial work, etc. come from a place of fear? Perhaps the truth of the matter is that people are actually projecting their own fear toward objects that make loud, scary noises?
I do have one question. Economic diversity, that's a driver for a lot of crime here, but I am unaware of a relation between amount of cultural diversity and crime. Do you have a source? Maybe I can learn something today
I never said that "cultural diversity" was a cause of crime. This apparent need to twist my words is getting tiresome. What I mean is that certain cultural attitudes foster and facilitate crime; i.e. glorified in rap music, glamorizing gangs, etc. A lot of cultural/demographic groups are also hostile to those other than their own. just being the wrong race in the wrong neighborhood makes you a target for rape, robbery, assault/battery, death, etc.
And before that gets twisted into something else, I should state that not all cultures consist of the same race and economic class, not all races consist of the same culture and economic class, and that not all economic classes consist of the same race and culture.
New Zealand compared to USA violent crime
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All things can be expressed mathematically. I'm terrible at math, though, so I'll trust actual mathematicians on that over your unsubstantiated claims.
I suppose you think the GPS is a science fiction tool that doesn't exist?
I'll trust the actual scientists, thanks.
SUUUUUURE.
That which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
Good.
For the record, Chariots of the Gods.
That's the only place anyone can be. Of course I'll remain in ignorance of whether aliens have definitively come to Earth, regardless of reason, because I've been given no evidence that they have. The testimonies of books are not evidence, anecdotes are not credible evidence.
You have the criteria for removing ignorance the proper way: tangible, measurable evidence whose properties can be repeatedly studied and calculated. Since you cannot provide that, ignorance remains the default.
I suggest taking another read of Call of Cthulhu.
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BTW, there's a big difference between precautionary arming of weaponry with the hope and expectation of never actually using it, and setting up death traps in one's yard and house and sleeping with a loaded gun beneath the pillow pointing at your lover's head. The former is perfectly reasonable; the latter is born of paranoia and not reasonable at all.
Normally, we crazies don't do this. But if I did put a gun under my pillow, it would be
perfectly safe because I keep mine chamber empty. (I'm sort of crazy about safety.)
I have bacon & a box of eggs in my refrigerator.
We're made for each other!