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Anybody want to deny the Democrat party isn't socialist now?

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Kristian Gonzalez (Democrat) after winning NY primary had this to say.....


This is straight from her own mouth, and not from a right wing mouthpiece accusation that The Democrat party has transformed into a far left socialist leaning entity.

It's a solid confirmation now that its indeed the case.

Democrats are socialist.
 

Daemon Sophic

Avatar in flux
Yep. She proposes that the government do what we pay taxes to have the government do. And we the people overwhelmingly agree with her.
It”s about damn time.


Today we really proved that socialism wins, we are not going anywhere, and we will not stop until we see a socialist slate across this city,” González said to her supporters at a Peruvian restaurant in Long Island City late last night, according to The City.

Gonzalez — a product manager for American Express — campaigned on left-wing issues such as climate change, increasing public school funding, canceling student debt, universal healthcare and taxing the rich to pay for affordable housing.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
I think that saying "the D. Party is socialist" is delusional.
The voters might have socialist ideas.
But the democratic party is center- right.

Socialism (which is something originated in Europe) implies a State that prevails over the private sector.
A State that has a universal healthcare, that has public state-owned banks, state-owned infrastructures and industries, and a state-owned pension system.

No offense...but the democratic party looks like a very glamorous, elitist lounge made up of private bankers, private enterpreneurs who sip cocktails and talking about cancel culture.
They couldn't care less about the people who can't afford healthcare.
 

QuestioningMind

Well-Known Member
Kristian Gonzalez (Democrat) after winning NY primary had this to say.....


This is straight from her own mouth, and not from a right wing mouthpiece accusation that The Democrat party has transformed into a far left socialist leaning entity.

It's a solid confirmation now that its indeed the case.

Democrats are socialist.

Thankfully the right's attempts to demonize socialism isn't as effective as it used to be. People are waking up to the fact that there are flourishing democracies around the world where citizens don't have to worry about losing their homes and life savings just because someone in the family gets sick. Or that people in other counties pay a fraction of what we do for Internet services that are twice as fast as what we get here. There are countries where workers actually have some degree of protection against corporate abuses. People are learning that in many democracies the government works to ensure the well-being of the citizenry instead of always putting the well-being of corporations first.

We're supposed to be a nation of the people, by the people, and for the people. Sadly we've become the nation of the corporations, by the corporations, and for the corporations. It may well be too late for us to take our country back, but if we don't do it now we're doomed.
 
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blü 2

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Kristian Gonzalez (Democrat) after winning NY primary had this to say.....

This is straight from her own mouth, and not from a right wing mouthpiece accusation that The Democrat party has transformed into a far left socialist leaning entity.

It's a solid confirmation now that its indeed the case.

Democrats are socialist.
How are you defining socialism?

What specific test have the Democrats collectively "passed" in order for you to reach your conclusion that they're "socialist"?
 

John53

I go leaps and bounds
Premium Member
Kristian Gonzalez (Democrat) after winning NY primary had this to say.....


This is straight from her own mouth, and not from a right wing mouthpiece accusation that The Democrat party has transformed into a far left socialist leaning entity.

It's a solid confirmation now that its indeed the case.

Democrats are socialist.

Well one is at least. If it's anything like Australian politics there's a half dozen factions in the major parties.
 

Suave

Simulated character
Kristian Gonzalez (Democrat) after winning NY primary had this to say.....


This is straight from her own mouth, and not from a right wing mouthpiece accusation that The Democrat party has transformed into a far left socialist leaning entity.

It's a solid confirmation now that its indeed the case.

Democrats are socialist.

Until the Democrat Party's platform advocates in favor of single payer health care insurance, taxpayer funded college tuition, universal pre-K education, and universal basic income, they are not Socialist enough for our liking.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
How are you defining socialism?

What specific test have the Democrats collectively "passed" in order for you to reach your conclusion that they're "socialist"?

You never looked at the vid and heard the words out of Kristian Gonzalez herself.

It's not my conclusion.

It is now my confirmation.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Until the Democrat Party's platform advocates in favor of single payer health care insurance, taxpayer funded college tuition, universal pre-K education, and universal basic income, they are not Socialist enough for our liking.
Not for the cost of freedoms and liberties it's not.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
How are you defining socialism?

What specific test have the Democrats collectively "passed" in order for you to reach your conclusion that they're "socialist"?
Ask Kristian Gonzalez. She's the one with the big mouth.
 

QuestioningMind

Well-Known Member
Kristian Gonzalez (Democrat) after winning NY primary had this to say.....


This is straight from her own mouth, and not from a right wing mouthpiece accusation that The Democrat party has transformed into a far left socialist leaning entity.

It's a solid confirmation now that its indeed the case.

Democrats are socialist.

The reality is that REPUBLICANS ARE SOCIALIST! They just don't like socialism that benefits the common citizen. But they absolutely adore socialism that benefits corporations and the rich, like billions in corporate tax breaks, billions in corporate subsidies, and of course that black-hole of socialist spending the current 777.7 billion dollar defense budget, which has virtually no oversight.

Speaking of the defense budget, isn't it appalling that when we're spending 777.7 BILLION dollars every single year that congress had to pass a separate spending bill to fund veteran health care? A bill that 41 Republican senators originally voted against. They're all for unlimited military spending, as long as it's going into the pockets of the defense contractors and not actually towards benefits for the soldiers who fight our endless wars.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
I can give a practical example. JFK had promised those elites he would be quiet back when he was elected (Ask Not What Your Country Can Do For You, etc...etc...)....
But afterwards he converted.
He wanted to change things. So he understood that those elites had to be stopped. Executive order 111100 was the first step. But the lounge-loving and carefree elites that had okayed his election felt betrayed and murdered him.
 

blü 2

Veteran Member
Premium Member
You never looked at the vid and heard the words out of Kristian Gonzalez herself.
You didn't answer my questions.

First, what, exactly, do you say is "socialism"?

Second, since when does Gonzalez speak for all Democrats?
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
Not for the cost of freedoms and liberties it's not.
You do know that Marx actually advocated for artistic freedom and sought to increase freedoms by reducing necessary labour hours, right?
Just a little fun fact
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
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(Sorry, couldn’t resist lol)
 

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
Kristian Gonzalez (Democrat) after winning NY primary had this to say.....


This is straight from her own mouth, and not from a right wing mouthpiece accusation that The Democrat party has transformed into a far left socialist leaning entity.

It's a solid confirmation now that its indeed the case.

Democrats are socialist.

Can I pick whatever any republican Pollies says, and use it to demonise all Republicans?
Can I pick whatever any Christian says, and use it to demonise all Christians?
Can I pick whatever any atheist says, and use it to demonise all atheists?
 
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