nathanielfirst
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Hello, I am studying the bible and interested in finding the names of apologists who are concerned with explaining a few topics in the bible - I am not an opponent of Christianity, tho I used to be agnostic, so don't get mad, rather I am considering converting after studying the bible a little... and I have managed to explain to myself every problem or contradiction I can think up, every objection I have heard of, but I have a FEW issues. specifically, three:
#1- I am wondering how the massacres described in the Old Testament, as the Jews enter the promised land, are explained in light of the gospel of peace preached in the New - as well as simply to common sense. I personally can't stand the idea of a massacre of unarmed people, (as the cities in Canaan are totally razed, looted, destroyed and inhabitants killed - some were noncombatants and children I'm sure); esp. children - as in Numbers 31, where the male children are killed along with male and female adults, but the female children are preserved. I know the stock answer there is usually that these people had sinned so badly through idolatry, homosexuality, adultery etc., that the land was to vomit them out, that or a reference to the omnipotence of God and that he always knows the best way although men may not see it. but I am looking for more perspectives than that, more ideas or ways of explaining it, especially more... common sense ways. I don't see how these male children could possibly have sinned so badly that they deserve to die, through homosexuality (?!) etc., yet the girls mentioned are considered clean, they are preserved and brought into service in Israelite households.
#2 - that people uncontacted by the gospel of Jesus between 33 A.D. and say whenever missionaries arrived - 1400 A.D., 1600 A.D., etc., will end up burning in Hell, or if not burning, being seperated from God - people in North and South America, Africa, Oceania, Siberia, Australia - this seems to me unfair. I know its been answered and easily answered in fact I've heard of the "harrowing of hell" - where Jesus storms Hell after his death and rescues Adam etc., but I don't have a catalogue of different answers.
#3 - in Romans 1, Paul of Tarsus states that God gave men who do not acknowledge his existance dishonorable passions - homosexuality etc., - I know that not all nonchristians/nonjews from Abraham's time to present, the world over, can possibly have been homosexuals, adulterers, pedophiles, fornicators, etc., and I also think that it is strange that God, not Satan, would GIVE a person a dishonorable passion - It is always men who make mistakes and are punished by a just God, or Satan who tempts them into making mistakes, occasionally God tests people like Job - not causing him to sin - but he does not WANT them to sin. In any case God refuses to reveal himself to anyone in ancient times - only to people like Noah and Abraham and Moses - so if he refuses to reveal himself to people how could he blame them for not recognizing he exists?
As I say, I am an ex-agnostic and I still can see that the bible is a valid guide to God - The valid guide maybe, even with access to resources like "A Notable Biblical Reference Manual" which is a supposed catalogue of condradictions in the bible, and skepticsannotatedbible.com - so I am not trying to undermine anyone's faith and a Christian who truly believes will not be shaken by these three points at all - but I am not a Christian as of right now -
I tend to depend on my reason, but that's an approach many people have tried in the past - Thomas Aquinas, for instance. except for these three points, I can see no objection to christianity....
can anyone help me find some resources that dodge these, explain them?
#1- I am wondering how the massacres described in the Old Testament, as the Jews enter the promised land, are explained in light of the gospel of peace preached in the New - as well as simply to common sense. I personally can't stand the idea of a massacre of unarmed people, (as the cities in Canaan are totally razed, looted, destroyed and inhabitants killed - some were noncombatants and children I'm sure); esp. children - as in Numbers 31, where the male children are killed along with male and female adults, but the female children are preserved. I know the stock answer there is usually that these people had sinned so badly through idolatry, homosexuality, adultery etc., that the land was to vomit them out, that or a reference to the omnipotence of God and that he always knows the best way although men may not see it. but I am looking for more perspectives than that, more ideas or ways of explaining it, especially more... common sense ways. I don't see how these male children could possibly have sinned so badly that they deserve to die, through homosexuality (?!) etc., yet the girls mentioned are considered clean, they are preserved and brought into service in Israelite households.
#2 - that people uncontacted by the gospel of Jesus between 33 A.D. and say whenever missionaries arrived - 1400 A.D., 1600 A.D., etc., will end up burning in Hell, or if not burning, being seperated from God - people in North and South America, Africa, Oceania, Siberia, Australia - this seems to me unfair. I know its been answered and easily answered in fact I've heard of the "harrowing of hell" - where Jesus storms Hell after his death and rescues Adam etc., but I don't have a catalogue of different answers.
#3 - in Romans 1, Paul of Tarsus states that God gave men who do not acknowledge his existance dishonorable passions - homosexuality etc., - I know that not all nonchristians/nonjews from Abraham's time to present, the world over, can possibly have been homosexuals, adulterers, pedophiles, fornicators, etc., and I also think that it is strange that God, not Satan, would GIVE a person a dishonorable passion - It is always men who make mistakes and are punished by a just God, or Satan who tempts them into making mistakes, occasionally God tests people like Job - not causing him to sin - but he does not WANT them to sin. In any case God refuses to reveal himself to anyone in ancient times - only to people like Noah and Abraham and Moses - so if he refuses to reveal himself to people how could he blame them for not recognizing he exists?
As I say, I am an ex-agnostic and I still can see that the bible is a valid guide to God - The valid guide maybe, even with access to resources like "A Notable Biblical Reference Manual" which is a supposed catalogue of condradictions in the bible, and skepticsannotatedbible.com - so I am not trying to undermine anyone's faith and a Christian who truly believes will not be shaken by these three points at all - but I am not a Christian as of right now -
I tend to depend on my reason, but that's an approach many people have tried in the past - Thomas Aquinas, for instance. except for these three points, I can see no objection to christianity....
can anyone help me find some resources that dodge these, explain them?