nutshell
Well-Known Member
Doesn't that statement make your argument meaningless? If you accept that God brought forth truth during a period outside of the Biblical timeline, how can you argue that the Mormons are wrong?
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Are Mormons Christians?
- Thread starter Katzpur
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Doesn't that statement make your argument meaningless? If you accept that God brought forth truth during a period outside of the Biblical timeline, how can you argue that the Mormons are wrong?
Bishka
Veteran Member
You are kidding me, right? So you cannot embrace us as Christian brothers and sisters, even though we believe in Jesus Christ as our Lord and Saviour? Hmmm.....it's the people like you who I wonder if they've actually read the Bible and understood Jesus Christ's teachings about 'loving thy neighbor'.
bible truth
Active Member
LOL...Why do you send your young kids as Mormon missionaries around the world? When your young Mormon missionary kids come to an evangelical Christian's house, do they still proclaim the LDS gospel to them? If so, what do you call that? Please grow up doctrinally, we are each others mission field. The evangelical Christian is the apostate by offical LDS doctrine. There is no such thing as "The Fullness of the Gospel"! God has either granted you understanding of His gospel or He has concealed it from you. The gospel in the Bible is also called the gospel of God. It is God's good news and not mine or yours. God commands us to speak the truth in love. It would not be an act of love to my Mormon neighbor by giving them a false hope in believing in a different Jesus than revealed in the Bible alone. I write these things because I love my Mormon neighbors. I hope and pray that you come to know the Living and true Christ revealed in the Bible alone. - BT
RevOxley_501
Well-Known Member
wish i wouldnt have participated now
nutshell
Well-Known Member
Why is that?
Green Gaia
Veteran Member
Who is a real Christian? Who is a real Muslim? Who should we exclude?
Imagine if the energy and time spent on knocking each other about on questions like this were poured into solving the world's problems instead of fighting amongst ourselves over our theological differences. :shout
Choose peace and love.
Imagine if the energy and time spent on knocking each other about on questions like this were poured into solving the world's problems instead of fighting amongst ourselves over our theological differences. :shout
Choose peace and love.
Rolling_Stone
Well-Known Member
Like I said, Becky, Mormons generally make better Christians than many who profress to be Christian.
Bishka
Veteran Member
To preach the fullness of the gospel of Jesus Christ and to bring people to Jesus Christ who weren't there already. Is that a problem?
It's hardly the "LDS Gospel"; it's the gospel of Jesus Christ; our Lord and Saviour.
Pardon me?
Not entirley. We believe that all religions have some truth in them. In fact, Joseph Smith said something to the effect of "seek out truth, wherever you may find it." I find much truth in many religions and sects of different faiths. There is so much truth and beauty to be found in the world; it's sad that you cannot see it.
Really. That would be an interesting debate.
Never said it was 'mine or yours'. That seems to be your field of expertise. We feel like we have the entire truth. Yes, you may have some of it, but, jsut like you we want to share the entire truth with everyone.
As we do.
Ah, but that's the clincher, is it not? You claim it to be love, but we see it as otherwise. We do not see it as false hope, so you are not showing love to us at all. How about, instead of telling us what an 'evil horrible not-believing-in-the-real-Christ' Chruch we are. Look at our similarities, actually take the time to see what we believe instead of trying to tell us what we believe.
I believe in Jesus Christ, He is my Lord and Saviour, my King and my all. HE died for me and atoned for my sins. I please ask you, do not try to dissuade me from my faith, because the more you do, the more I stand stronger. Instead, embrace that we both believe in the Jesus Christ who died on the cross--for BOTH of us, and we have BOTH accepted Him as our Lord and Saviour.
bible truth
Active Member
Hey Rolling Stone,
Nice to meet you too. Could you try to expound your wisdom beyond a sentence or two? - BT
bible truth
Active Member
Good morning Beckysoup,
Please answer the question about your Mormon missionaries. Why do they still try to proclaim the LDS gospel at every evangelical Christian and Roman Catholic Christian homes? If you don't honestly answer this question, it's difficult to discuss these things? Could you please try to post your answer to this honest and sincere question. - BT
Bishka
Veteran Member
What do you want me to answer? I've already given you the answer. They preach it at those homes because they want to share the FULLNESS of the gospel of Jesus Christ. I said it several times in my response.
I've honestly answered your question, but you can't seem to get that. Please HONESTLY see that I am giving you answers, you just refuse to acknowledge them because they don't fit what you want to see.
Bishka
Veteran Member
Apparently we aren't accepting the 'right Jesus Christ'. Which I find a bit silly; He's the same Jesus Christ as all the other Christians, we just view Him differently. For example, let's take my Aunt Florence; I know her as a sweet, kind old lady, but you may know her as a harley-riding, leather-wearing biker chick. She is still the same person, just viewed with a different perspective. That's how it is with Jesus Christ; non-trinitarians (and mainly LDS) see Jesus Christ as not part of the trinity (but still being one with the Father in purpose), and the Trinitarians see Him as one in being with the Father. He is still the same Saviour. The same Saviour that died for all of us; we just see Him a bit differently.
Gentoo
The Feisty Penguin
I see that as silly too, I read that post bible_truth posted about the three Jesus'. Those aren't different people, it's the same person being looked at from three different perspectives... I really don't understand why people can't just look at something in a different view to get a new understanding of something they thought they understood. You can learn a whole lot by taking a new persepective.
bible truth
Active Member
Hey Beckysoup,
Please be patient with my lack of understanding. The Holy Bible speaks of the gospel as the "Gospel of God, Gospel of Christ, Gospel, Gospel of Paul, God's Gospel, different gospel which is no gospel at all, etc. The Holy Bible never uses the term "FULLNESS" of the gospel.
I can best describe my understanding of the gospel from the entire book of Romans. I can also describe the gospel in a nutshell by quoting 2 Cor 5:21. Therefore, please share where my understanding of the gospel is incomplete.
Here is the Apostle Paul's thesis statement for the book of Romans:
" I am obligated both to Greeks and non-Greeks, both to the wise and the foolish. That is why I am so eager to preach the gospel also to you who are at Rome.
I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile. For in the gospel a righteousness from God is revealed, a righteousness that is by faith from first to last, just as it is written: "The righteous will live by faith." Romans 1:15-17
Beckysoup, are you implying the Apostle Paul did not have the "FULLNESS" of the gospel when he wrote the book of Romans? - BT
RevOxley_501
Well-Known Member
i do not believe in mormons....
Bishka
Veteran Member
I'm sure that Paul could have, but then again, TWO-THOUSAND years have passed since then; and it can be said, by seeing how many versions of the Bible that there were and are, that plain and precious truths have been taken out of the Bible and altered; or did you not think that the case? Do you really think that no man has altered the Bible for their own agenda since it was put together? What about the books that weren't included in the Bible, are they any less important??
Bishka
Veteran Member
We never asked you too. You believe as you want. :yes:
RevOxley_501
Well-Known Member
i was JK