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Are most people fighting over the same God?

Azakel

Liebe ist für alle da
My remarks were about Shintoism and WW2, you obviously did not read my post.

And somebody please define "the good life".

I did read it, but just because in the time of WW2 the Japanese thought one way in no way changes Shinto at it's base.
 

S-word

Well-Known Member
ARE MOST PEOPLE FIGHTING OVER THE SAME GOD/

No! There are those who worship God who is revealed in the Cosmos itself, these people worship their God in their care for the envionment and for the creatures who are all part and parcel of the God who they worship.

Then there are those who worship their God who is in the form of a mortal man, these people care for and associate with they who believe in the same god as themselves.

They are not fighting over the same god.
 

Feldurmac

Member
I think it's inevitable. I also have faith that we're outgrowing it.

I think this is the case, as well. As time changes I think that cultural and religious differences will lessen more and more, things will become more and more global and God will no longer need to show himself to the masses in multiple different ways, not saying there will only be one type of religion but I think religion in general will become more unified. Society will become more unified.

I think that becoming a global conscience is important to a planet that reaches the space-travel era, if in fact the universe is full of other life-forms Earth will need to adapt and unify in order to survive, but again that is a whole different topic isn't it? :)

At the time becoming a one-culture one-religion global conscience also has some very scary implications... I'm not sure how I feel about it. All I know is that throughout time their has also been two constants up to this point:

1) The world is always changing

2) There are always skeptics who fear and hate that change and believe it will bring "the end of the world"
 

elfy2go

New Member
Well...if this "global consciousness" is going to be reached I think that the root of it would have to be a dissolving of all languages into a single common vernacular. In essence if we are going to reach this level of unity it won't be about religion but more about how we construct our ideas. If our ideas and all rooted in the same language then many barriers may be broken (then again, we may lose many distinctions that are made in one language but not another). Also we have such limited active vocabularies that even within a single language people can construct so many different meanings. The idea of actually reaching some sort of global consciousness has always seemed ideal but somewhat unattainable.

As for humans gaining efficient planetary travel before we blow each other up and use up all of our resources...not sure about that one.

This is all very speculative. rough intuitions that lead me to this:

1. Human beings are essentially beings that assign meaning
2. We assign meaning through a power of the mind
3. The mind is essentially responsible for thought
4. Our thought is always through language (broadly define - symbols and gestures included)
5. A unity in thought will only come through a unity in language.
 
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zenzero

Its only a Label
Friend Feldurmac,
You missed one vital link.
The goal of humans or individual soul/energy is to merge with the universal soul/energy.
This happens ONLY when the individual has a STILL MIND.
Religion is just a Way or a Path to Still the Mind and till the Mind is active; perceptions will differ. This Active Mind is the root for all differences in this world which perceives differently.
Love & rgds
 

S-word

Well-Known Member
Zeus RULES!!!:p

“Zeus is called the Father of Gods and men, the Most High among the immortals, whom all others obey.” –Smith’s Class. Dict.
Much the same as the 'Son of Man,' who developed within the body of mankind who is the most high in the sixth period of universal activity, is the most high in the assembly of the gods from where he gives his decisions. See Psalms 82.

Hesiod calls Zeus the son of Cronos (Time) and Rhea (Space,) and the brother of Hestia, Demeter, Hera, Hades, and Poseidon.
Cronos=Time, swallowed his children (Universal bodies) immediatly after their birth, but when Rhea=Space gave birth to Zeus, (the godhead that had developed in the sixth universal body) she hid him in a darkened cave or black hole, and gave to Cronos=Time, a stone wrapped in cloth, which he swallowed.

“The stone swallowed by Father Time, is none other than the ‘Philosophers Stone,’ the concealed (seven faceted) stone of many colours.’ See Zechariah 3: 9. The stone which is ‘the mystic seed’ of transcendental life which should invade, tinge, and wholly transmute the imperfect self into spiritual gold.” E. Underhill, Mysticism, p, 170.

When Zeus had grown, it was then, that by a cunning device of Ge or Metis (Divine wisdom) Father Time was made to bring up the five previous children (Universal bodies) that he had swallowed and first of all the stone, which was afterward set up by Zeus at Delphi."...Smith's Class. Dict.

Zeus was to later unite with his sister 'Demeter,' from which union was born 'Dionysus,' who, according to the ancient Greeks, was their indwelling master, much the same as Christ, 'Enoch the anointed one' is our indwelling god. And the body of 'Dionysus' was torn to pieces, as was the spiritual body of Christ=Enoch, the spirit within every tabernacle that has descended from Noah the great grandson of Enoch.

The body of Dionysus was then washed in water, the baptismal waters into which the old indwelling man "Adam" descended and from which waters arose the new man Enoch, then it was roasted in fire, the baptism of fire which we, the body of Christ must pass through.
 
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Feldurmac

Member
Friend Feldurmac,
You missed one vital link.
The goal of humans or individual soul/energy is to merge with the universal soul/energy.
This happens ONLY when the individual has a STILL MIND.
Religion is just a Way or a Path to Still the Mind and till the Mind is active; perceptions will differ. This Active Mind is the root for all differences in this world which perceives differently.
Love & rgds

I agree with you, but it is possible to have the same global objectives without sharing the same thoughts. Just like it is possible to be an American (or whatever nation have you) but still have ideas that differ from other Americans (or whatever nation have you), or be a Christian whose thoughts differ from other Christians.

I am not saying that I neccessarily agree with a global conscience... I just think that might be the way the world is heading. Adapt or die, as they say. Luckily the time of that decession will be long after our lives are done I imagine. :)
 

DavyCrocket2003

Well-Known Member
I think this is the case, as well. As time changes I think that cultural and religious differences will lessen more and more, things will become more and more global and God will no longer need to show himself to the masses in multiple different ways, not saying there will only be one type of religion but I think religion in general will become more unified. Society will become more unified.

I think that becoming a global conscience is important to a planet that reaches the space-travel era, if in fact the universe is full of other life-forms Earth will need to adapt and unify in order to survive, but again that is a whole different topic isn't it? :)

At the time becoming a one-culture one-religion global conscience also has some very scary implications... I'm not sure how I feel about it. All I know is that throughout time their has also been two constants up to this point:

1) The world is always changing

2) There are always skeptics who fear and hate that change and believe it will bring "the end of the world"

I don't know if I'm so convinced... I see so much of the world becoming more and more polarized. I think things are coming to a head. I think we need a major shift in direction if we want to avoid some big problems down the road.
 
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