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Are there two God's words?

savagewind

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The story of the boys and the prophet teaches that bad associations will kill you. Is it true?
 

savagewind

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'Work'? meaning what
Scripture is alive. Life changes. It can change. The meaning can not change but the view can. But people who believe it is as it was written believe that it can't speak for itself. Can God's words speak? I know they can.
 

savagewind

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God's words can tell you what they mean. Do you believe "all [your] scripture is God breathed and beneficial"?
 

Desert Snake

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The story of the boys and the prophet teaches that bad associations will kill you. Is it true?

Bad associations wont necessarily kill you. I thought you were interpreting the text, as the bears merely divided the group. You're all over the place. Are you saying the story is meat to be read as literal now? I never said that I read the story literally.
 

savagewind

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Bad associations wont necessarily kill you. I thought you were interpreting the text, as the bears merely divided the group. You're all over the place. Are you saying the story is meat to be read as literal now? I never said that I read the story literally.
The Bible as written says that the boys were all killed. Does it say that? Are you saying the bears did not literally tear them up (kill them). I agree with you. What did the bears do?
 

Desert Snake

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Scripture is alive. Life changes. It can change. The meaning can not change but the view can. But people who believe it is as it was written believe that it can't speak for itself. Can God's words speak? I know they can.

I thought you said that the Bible is a remnant of the Holy text...are you now saying it isn't, that's it's Divine? Are you saying that you are the person who can interpret it?
 

savagewind

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SDigh. Yes but all to me does not mean every. It means wholeness. The wholeness of scripture is inspired of God and beneficial. Because the whole thing is beneficial then what stays stay and what isn't there is not needed.
 

Desert Snake

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The Bible as written says that the boys were all killed. Does it say that? Are you saying the bears did not literally tear them up (kill them). I agree with you. What did the bears do?

Bad associations killing you, is vague. How bad? Is that really the message? The story speaks of a specific prophet, not the fact that there were bad associations taking place..
 

savagewind

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I thought you said that the Bible is a remnant of the Holy text...are you now saying it isn't, that's it's Divine?
The Bible is what we have. Other people have other books but I mind my own (perceived) business. The book is paper and ink. Paper and ink is not divine.
Are you saying that you are the person who can interpret it?
No. Jesus who is with me whenever I need him interprets it.
 

savagewind

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Bad associations killing you, is vague. How bad? Is that really the message? The story speaks of a specific prophet, not the fact that there were bad associations taking place..
ALL the boys were killed according to THEM. The boys were in association. So bad associations were taking place. Can you not see it?
 

Desert Snake

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SDigh. Yes but all to me does not mean every. It means wholeness. The wholeness of scripture is inspired of God and beneficial. Because the whole thing is beneficial then what stays stay and what isn't there is not needed.

So what are you disagreeing with..What does 'your version' of the Bible look like? If it's a mess, why are you trying to argue these messy verses..
 

savagewind

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It isn't directly inferred, no.
I do not know what "directly" inferred means. I infer that the boys were together. You don't? Are you saying that 42 children independently were there making the same kind of trouble? I call that impossible.
 

Desert Snake

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I do not know what "directly" inferred means. I infer that the boys were together. You don't? Are you saying that 42 children independently were there making the same kind of trouble? I call that impossible.

Jesus preached to ,and in fact... was around others who were with 'bad associations'...so how do you interpret that? Your interpretations, are what i'm disagreeing with... your putting emphasis on this, when it is not really what is being discussed. The question is, why... because there is inference in other verses far better then this, for that idea.
 

savagewind

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So what are you disagreeing with..What does 'your version' of the Bible look like? If it's a mess, why are you trying to argue these messy verses..
I shall say that wisdom wrote the book. It doesn't matter that some things were wrong in it because discovering wrong parts teaches a person how to dig so bad parts are good parts. If it was all righteous then it would become something that is not to be concerned with because that is how most people are. Most people do not care, which isn't really a bad thing imo. If it was perfect most people would not concern themselves with it. It is not perfect and most people do not concern themselves with it. But because some texts were changed it isn't wisdom any more.
I think the world needs wisdom. But it isn't present.
 

savagewind

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Jesus preached to ,and in fact... was around others who were with 'bad associations'...so how do you interpret that? Your interpretations, are what i'm disagreeing with... your putting emphasis on this, when it is not really what is being discussed. The question is, why... because there is inference in other verses far better then this, for that idea.
WHAT? I do not believe bad associations of people spoil useful habits. I'm telling you what the interpretation would lead someone to believe. I worry about the transmission of error. I do not know why nobody else does.
 

savagewind

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When someone finds a faslehood in the bible he or she tends to reject the whole thing. That is a problem.
 
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