Are These Grounds for Legalizing Pedophilia?

[oldbadger]

Ugh, no, not really.

I guess my previous comment was more of a knee-jerk emotional reaction to something which I honestly do not know the solution for.

I'm cool with that. I have no clue, either.

As other posters have suggested, it does make sense to try and encourage people with the urges to come forward and seek professional help. To be honest though, I'd rather them seek help whilst confined in a secure facility - where they cannot do any harm.

We have a 'sexual offender's' register, and anybody who commits any sexual offence is entered onto it.
But if thoughts were crimes, it might be easier to have a non-sexual offender's register!

What's the best solution, no idea.

I have no clue worth recording. If I would want to know how to put the world right, solve the recession, win military undertakings or win the FA cup I would pop into the local transport cafe and ask bullsh-t-brown. He knows everything.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

No I would compare that to legalizing bestiality. I seriously doubt the orientation thing, but even if it isn't some fetish, animals and children cannot give informed consent. I would say the same of same-sex if they were not consenting adults.

Zoophilia is already legal in my state. Lmao.

 

[MD]

If pedophilia is legalized then whom will all those prison dads kill?

 

[Alceste]

If pedophilia is legalized then whom will all those prison dads kill?

Pedophilia is already legal. So they'll just carry on as they are, I expect.

 

[Me Myself]

animals and children cannot give informed consent.

I must say that argument is a new orbit of stupidity when said by someone who is not against needless meat eating

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

2-technically speaking, we cant assert all children become traumathized by this. I am also sure this wouldnt be e case on a culture that was different than most western cultures. At the end of the day, its stimulation of nerve endings, and that's it. Yes, its disgusting, but it doesnt mean it will always be disgusting to the kid (I felt attraction to women for the first time in my memory at 9 years old looking a three stooges episode with giant women on little clothing) qnd if it is nt disgusting to the kid nir the adult and no one tells the kid something horrrible has happened, or that they have lost something so precious they will never get back, or that the adult was "taking advatange" of them doing something horrible to them.... Well, the kid might never "find out" how hurt s/he is.

You make a good point. Most people think of children being asexual and so that argument isn't very talked about.

 

[Alceste]

You make a good point. Most people think of children being asexual and so that argument isn't very talked about.

I did read of a study lately that found a large proportion of molested children were not emotionally scarred and traumatized for life by their experience, but I'm not gonna go there. It's a big can of worms. I'm completely fine with the rule "don't touch up kids".

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I did read of a study lately that found a large proportion of molested children were not emotionally scarred and traumatized for life by their experience, but I'm not gonna go there. It's a big can of worms. I'm completely fine with the rule "don't touch up kids".

Oh, come on! Be daring! You can blame it on Myself.

 

[Alceste]

Oh, come on! Be daring! You can blame it on Myself.

Ha, I already went there. I tried a quick google, but there's no chance I'll ever be able to find that article again.

I know I did some strange, sexually experimental stuff when I was a kid, and I'm not traumatized by it. OTOH, it was with other kids - mostly other girls. Sometimes I think back and realize in retrospect they were probably being abused. But childhood is awkward, confusing and traumatic to begin with. So I dunno.

I just think we take the whole sex thing way too seriously.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Ha, I already went there. I tried a quick google, but there's no chance I'll ever be able to find that article again.

I know I did some strange, sexually experimental stuff when I was a kid, and I'm not traumatized by it. OTOH, it was with other kids - mostly other girls. Sometimes I think back and realize in retrospect they were probably being abused. But childhood is awkward, confusing and traumatic to begin with. So I dunno.

I just think we take the whole sex thing way too seriously.

If you find the article again, let me know.

I think almost everyone has some done things as a kid. I agree that the paranoia over sex is absurd.

 

[Alceste]

If you find the article again, let me know.

I think almost everyone has some done things as a kid. I agree that the paranoia over sex is absurd.

Yeah. One thing you'll learn if you're studying psychology (and probably already learned) is that the more paranoid we are about directly confronting our disturbing thoughts, the greater a hold they have on us and our behavior.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Yeah. One thing you'll learn if you're studying psychology (and probably already learned) is that the more paranoid we are about directly confronting our disturbing thoughts, the greater a hold they have on us and our behavior.

Indeed. I've probably had more disturbing thoughts and inclinations than most, so I know that all too well.

 

[Enai de a lukal]

2-technically speaking, we cant assert all children become traumathized by this. I am also sure this wouldnt be e case on a culture that was different than most western cultures. At the end of the day, its stimulation of nerve endings, and that's it.

Um, yeah, that's hardly "it". You're basically entirely ignoring the role of sexuality in human psychological development, and the effect of sexual abuse on the development of children. There really isn't any doubt that its a tad more than just "stimulation of nerve endings".

Yes, its disgusting, but it doesnt mean it will always be disgusting to the kid (I felt attraction to women for the first time in my memory at 9 years old looking a three stooges episode with giant women on little clothing) qnd if it is nt disgusting to the kid nir the adult and no one tells the kid something horrrible has happened, or that they have lost something so precious they will never get back, or that the adult was "taking advatange" of them doing something horrible to them.... Well, the kid might never "find out" how hurt s/he is.

Not very likely. Possible, but there's absolutely no reason to think this is the case; indeed, young children who have been molestated, but are nevertheless too young too fully understand what has happened still manifest the short-term effects of sexual abuse, like anxiety, aggression, and inappropriate sexual behaviors. Clearly, a child needn't understand the nature or morality of sexual abuse to feel its effects. Moreover, child molestation often involves coercion and force, which, aside from the "stimulation of nerve endings", exacerbate the trauma.

 

[Enai de a lukal]

1-i find pedophilia disgusting. More so than zoophilia

2-technically speaking, we cant assert all children become traumathized by this. I am also sure this wouldnt be e case on a culture that was different than most western cultures. At the end of the day, its stimulation of nerve endings, and that's it. Yes, its disgusting, but it doesnt mean it will always be disgusting to the kid (I felt attraction to women for the first time in my memory at 9 years old looking a three stooges episode with giant women on little clothing) qnd if it is nt disgusting to the kid nir the adult and no one tells the kid something horrrible has happened, or that they have lost something so precious they will never get back, or that the adult was "taking advatange" of them doing something horrible to them.... Well, the kid might never "find out" how hurt s/he is.

3-yes, its disgusting and I more rather it nt be legalized, mostly cause I find it disgusting.

And seriously, as if the problem with child molestation is that its gross, and not that its an intrinsically heinous, harmful, and immoral act.

 

[Alceste]

Indeed. I've probably had more disturbing thoughts and inclinations than most, so I know that all too well.

I don't have many disturbing inclinations myself, but I know a lot of people and they tell me a lot of things. They're not bad people, they just enjoy ... I dunno... pee and slapping and such like. I don't judge. I just bumped into one of my old girl friends and now she's a dude. Balding and everything. As long as I don't dwell on it, it's pretty obvious he was a dude all along. Not that this has anything to do with this thread, it's just that human psychology is a free-for-all. As long as people stick to victimless behavior, what's going on in their minds is their own business. I truly believe that.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I don't have many disturbing inclinations myself, but I know a lot of people and they tell me a lot of things. They're not bad people, they just enjoy ... I dunno... pee and slapping and such like. I don't judge.

Lol! Watersports is vanilla to me. I'm a connoisseur of the weird, sick, strange, bizarre and disturbing.

I just bumped into one of my old girl friends and now she's a dude. Balding and everything. As long as I don't dwell on it, it's pretty obvious he was a dude all along. Not that this has anything to do with this thread, it's just that human psychology is a free-for-all. As long as people stick to victimless behavior, what's going on in their minds is their own business. I truly believe that.

I'm a trans guy, myself. But I already shave my head so I don't have to worry about balding.

 

[Alceste]

Lol! Watersports is vanilla to me. I'm a connoisseur of the weird, sick, strange, bizarre and disturbing.



I'm a trans guy, myself. But I already shave my head so I don't have to worry about balding.

What's with the balding anyway? I mentioned it when we were in cups, because it was not expected. (After a few G&Ts, I was all "Wow - you're going bald and everything! Just like my husband!") He said "It runs in my family", but surely he would not be going bald if not for doing the transition stuff, which I know very little about apart from taking hormones.

Any insight? I'm dying to understand that. If he hadn't transitioned, would he be a balding chick now, or is it the result of his FTM treatment? Odd what we get curious about, but there it is. I'm certainly not curious about the pee and slapping.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

What's with the balding anyway? I mentioned it when we were in cups, because it was not expected. (After a few G&Ts, I was all "Wow - you're going bald and everything! Just like my husband!") He said "It runs in my family", but surely he would not be going bald if not for doing the transition stuff, which I know very little about apart from taking hormones.

Any insight? I'm dying to understand that. If he hadn't transitioned, would he be a balding chick now, or is it the result of his FTM treatment? Odd what we get curious about, but there it is.

The male-pattern baldness is triggered by the testosterone therapy, yes:

Beards, Baldness and What’s in Your Pants | American Trans Man

I'm certainly not curious about the pee and slapping.

Your loss!

 

[Alceste]

The male-pattern baldness is triggered by the testosterone therapy, yes:

Beards, Baldness and What’s in Your Pants | American Trans Man

Thanks. Nice to know. Now I can hang out with my buddy without staring at his shiny pate with a furrowed brow.

Your loss!

Wow, my first sincere lol in ages. I literally laughed out loud. I didn't just feel slightly amused with a stone-cold facial expression.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Thanks. Nice to know. Now I can hang out with my buddy without staring at his shiny pate with a furrowed brow.

He got the short end of the genetic stick with that one. Baldness doesn't run in my family so that's not something I'll have to worry about.

Wow, my first sincere lol in ages. I literally laughed out loud. I didn't just feel slightly amused with a stone-cold facial expression.

Aww, I'm flattered. I'm glad I could do that for you. There's a purpose for me in life after all.