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Are you a Patriot?
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Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Some of the greatest patriots throughout history have betrayed the authority of their country. Treason is sometimes a necessary act.
Wirey
Fartist
I believe patriotism is better described as a group of core principles that the members of a nation hold to. And when a government betrays that group of ideals, revolution is sometimes the correct answer. Fortunately, we who live in democratic societies can foment revolution via the ballot box.
Not really. The US, at least, is a democratic republic: the vote of the common people means very little, especially with the convoluted way votes are measured, and the fact that campaigns are conducted more like commercial advertising campaigns with mudslinging and lying being perfectly acceptable, meaning that we're not really voting for what we think we're voting for when we vote. No matter if we followed the entire campaign, all votes in the US are effectively blind except in the cases of people who do scholarly-levels of research into each and every candidate, which most people simply don't have time for.
As Damh the Bard observed, how do you vote when there isn't a choice?
1robin
Christian/Baptist
We in modern times have rebelled against financial solvency, moral sanity, personal freedom, victory in battle, private property rights, honest politicians, and apparently truth it's self. Viva de revolution.
I think I hear Paul revere yelling the liberals are coming.
Of course I am joking. If we can't laugh at what's going on we would be forced to cry.
Son of The Gods
Thorsman
Ehh I enjoy living in America because I get the choice to do what I please (Within reason) but it does have it faults.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Im a patriot for the idealology that makes a free country attractive and wanting. As long as a flame flickers that represents that, my patriotism is sound. Im not loyal to any corruption that erodes freedom and self independence.
Namaste
I am a "citizen of the world", I have family in the USA (my official country which I love), in India, Canada, UK, Australia. Also in Sweden but really don't know too much after years gone by.
My loyalties overlap. In the US, I am increasingly becoming a Nationalist. So I will check that.
I am a "citizen of the world", I have family in the USA (my official country which I love), in India, Canada, UK, Australia. Also in Sweden but really don't know too much after years gone by.
My loyalties overlap. In the US, I am increasingly becoming a Nationalist. So I will check that.
Phil25
Active Member
Always been Curious, Are you an Indian American or an American convert to Hinduism?
... oh, I dun't want to get off subject so we can talk over at the HinduDIR (there is some background there on me), it is too boring here. To the chase, no I am not a convert. Been a fur real Hindu since 8 years old. I am white Anglo-Saxon and Swed mix and married into a Indian well off Hindu family. My father who is English is an impersonalist and my mother is a Buddhist enfluenced Swed. I am a Saiva, and my Indian relatives are Saiva-Shakta.
Alceste
Vagabond
True, but they were only trying out the same deceptive robo-call tactic the Republicans have used in the US openly for the last 3 elections with no legal repercussions of any kind. Can't blame them for thinking they could get away with it here too - Stephen Harper thinks we're part of the States, and he campaigns like it.
I make it a point to vote against any pollie caught in a significant lie. I am pretty sure this only serves to help elect a better class of liar, to be honest.
But I stick with it. I'd rather have someone making policies I am doubtful on then rorting the system as a whole, and playing us all for fools.
Besides, most major political parties have as much in common as differences these days in any case. Not to say that voting doesn't matter, but it's hardly a choice between extremes (at least in Australia).