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Are you Abrahamic?

Are you Abrahamic?

  • Yes, I am Abrahamic in addition to whatever else I am.

  • No, my covenant replaces all previous ones.


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Zardoz

Wonderful Wizard
Premium Member
And Abraham didn't receive the destiny to bless the nations. It says that through Abraham nations would be blessed.

The Righteous Convert is named Ben Avaraham, not Ben Yisrael, as the blessing is accredited to him.

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I'm not sure what your question is here. What do Noahides have to do with an Abrahamic religion/covenant?

Where would they get the Noahide laws from, if not from an Abrahamic religion?

What was the religion of Abraham?

But you know what? This isn't a debate forum. Just go ahead and vote no if you want.
 

MARCELLO

Transitioning from male to female
I am trying to be an abrahamic since I believe that's the only way to build up a connection between my father passed and me.

I may be wrong but yet innocent.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
According to me there isn't one. But here:
I think I agree with you.


I do not believe either one.

Fatherhood isn't the issue, birthright is. Just ask Esau.
If that is true then the covenant means nothing to me. I was not born for a covenant but I chose to respect it. I do not respect birth right much.
Abraham was not born to be a father. I think he learned it. I was not born to be anyone's child except my mother and father but I accept adoption.
Esau was not right for righteousness. I think people can become right for righteousness. It isn't easy. And being born into a certain family does not make it a sure thing for anyone imho.
I voted wrong. I voted yes. But according to your definition, I am neither yes nor no.
I believe in God's promise. God has not promised me anything, I am sure.

In fact, I think that "he who has endured to the end will be saved" simply means that he who endures to the end will have endured to the end. Why would he say that? It is because he lets us know that Heaven does not promise anything but to help. I think maybe Abraham was the first person who was helped regarding salvation. Anyone who trusts in the salvation of God comes under the ONE covenant.

To teach that God breaks covenants is a bad lesson. Isn't it? Then someone will say, "God didn't break God's covenant, the Jews broke it". Am I right?
But that is an even worse lesson because it teaches that people have some authority over what God does. They don't.

edit: I tried to take my yes vote away but it won't let me.
 
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Tumah

Veteran Member
The Righteous Convert is named Ben Avaraham, not Ben Yisrael, as the blessing is accredited to him.
And the convert is a Jew, not one of the nations.
Regular non-Jews are not called Ben Avraham.
Where would they get the Noahide laws from, if not from an Abrahamic religion?
Noah.
What was the religion of Abraham?
Its an argument between the Rabbis.
But you know what? This isn't a debate forum. Just go ahead and vote no if you want.
Thanks.
 

Tarheeler

Argumentative Curmudgeon
Premium Member
Notice the references of Abraham. Fast forward to minute 8 if you wish.
I have no intention of watching that. I know our history and who Abraham was.
You can summarize it and make your own argument if you wish, but this is a DIR.
 

Zardoz

Wonderful Wizard
Premium Member
I have no intention of watching that. I know our history and who Abraham was.
You can summarize it and make your own argument if you wish, but this is a DIR.

When I post on a public forum, it is not solely for the person I'm responding to, but also for the many silent followers of the topic.

With over 470 views of the topic, I'm fairly sure some forum members have watched the Rabbi and came to their own conclusion.
 

Tarheeler

Argumentative Curmudgeon
Premium Member
When I post on a public forum, it is not solely for the person I'm responding to, but also for the many silent followers of the topic.

With over 470 views of the topic, I'm fairly sure some forum members have watched the Rabbi and came to their own conclusion.
So you'll not be providing a summation or your own argument?
 
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