Are you for bringing back sacrifice in your religion?

[Jainarayan]

The correct term would be "Hierophant," not "Pope." Just sayin'.

As for ritual sacrifice--especially whole burnt offerings--err, nope. Not just no, but heck no!

No barbecue!?

This disappointed Heathen is disappointed.

 

[Jainarayan]

Lol. Why do you say Odin is a prick?

Picking on Thor, basically swindling the Giants, stealing the Meade of Poetry...

But I respect him, nonetheless. Name-calling the Gods is more because of the casual relationship I have with the Gods.

Not to mention that Odin himself exhibits regret for some of the things he's done. He immediately regretted screwing Gunnlod out of the mead (literally), according to the Prose Edda.

 

[Riverwolf]

Not to mention that Odin himself exhibits regret for some of the things he's done. He immediately regretted screwing Gunnlod out of the mead (literally), according to the Prose Edda.

Indeed.

It's one of the reasons I have respect for Him.

 

[crossfire]

No barbecue!?

This disappointed Heathen is disappointed.

Whole burnt offerings means just that--the whole thing gets burnt--no one eats it. Not something I'm a fan of, and I'm especially not for reviving the practice!

 

[Gnostic Seeker]

I'm not for reviving whole burnt offerings either, and I actually think there's some room to re-evaluate sacrificial practice in my particular tradition. We needn't do everything like the ancients, heh

One myth says Prometheus taught man to sacrifice, but basically slighted the gods by teaching man to offer him the choicer parts of the meat. This is part of why the gods punished him. He held them to open contempt in this matter, but its still he the Greeks attributed the sacrificial rites to.

 

[Jainarayan]

Whole burnt offerings means just that--the whole thing gets burnt--no one eats it. Not something I'm a fan of, and I'm especially not for reviving the practice!

Not eating it!? Oh then I am in agreement with you. That is a waste of the animal's life, imo.

 

[Faybull]

In the Tanakh, perhaps.

But it was not so for us.



The animal is not destroyed.

Well, you aren't speaking of sacrifice then.
Isn't that what this thread was about?


The life of the animal is destroyed. I am not sure what you mean by the animal isn't destroyed?
If I had to say what is on my mind, or what I think you mean by it, I would say it sounds like you are trying to rationalize destructive behavior as an act of worship.

 

[Knight of Albion]

Sacrifice? I'm all for it!

But not a blood sacrifice, for my God is not a cold-hearted killer - and neither am I.

I favour the love sacrifice (Service). for my God is a loving God. And I hold that, only when there is Light in your soul and Love in your heart can you hope to find your way Home.

 

[Riverwolf]

Well, you aren't speaking of sacrifice then.
Isn't that what this thread was about?

It's about certain rituals that involve the slaughter and consumption of animals in a ritualistic context.

The life of the animal is destroyed. I am not sure what you mean by the animal isn't destroyed?

The animal's body is eaten, and what isn't eaten is used to make tools. We become the animals.

If I had to say what is on my mind, or what I think you mean by it, I would say it sounds like you are trying to rationalize destructive behavior as an act of worship.

Only because your mind is coming from a viewpoint of the world and how it works that's different from ours. We're not monotheists, nor do we think of the world in terms of black-and-white morality. We also don't think of animals as Creation by a Creator, because we don't have a Creator (usually, anyway. I don't.)

 

[Riverwolf]

But not a blood sacrifice, for my God is not a cold-hearted killer - and neither am I.

Nor are we.

 

[Faybull]

It's about certain rituals that involve the slaughter and consumption of animals in a ritualistic context.



The animal's body is eaten, and what isn't eaten is used to make tools. We become the animals.
You become an animal that has eaten another animal. You, we, are already animals.
Not sure what is meant by "we".

Only because your mind is coming from a viewpoint of the world and how it works that's different from ours. We're not monotheists, nor do we think of the world in terms of black-and-white morality. We also don't think of animals as Creation by a Creator, because we don't have a Creator (usually, anyway. I don't.)

Who or what is the "we" here?

 

[Riverwolf]

Who or what is the "we" here?

I'm assuming this bit:

You become an animal that has eaten another animal. You, we, are already animals.
Not sure what is meant by "we".

...is also part of your response that got put into my quote?

The "we" who become the animals are those who partake in the feast afterwards. Yes, we are animals, anyway, but in the feast, we become specifically the animal that was killed. If a Hart was sacrificed, we become the Hart.

I fight and slay the Rathalos. Then donning its skin, I become the Rathalos. (...just to be perfectly nerdy about it, since the soundtrack to Monster Hunter is playing right now. lol)

The "we" who are not monotheists, who do not think of the world in black-and-white morality, and do not typically have a conception of a Creator, are polytheists.

 

[nazz]

Killing other living things should only be done if and when necessary, IMO

 

[Gnostic Seeker]

Killing other living things should only be done if and when necessary, IMO

You eat meat?

 

[nazz]

You eat meat?

Yes, I don't live up to the ideal I espouse.

 

[Riverwolf]

Yes, I don't live up to the ideal I espouse.

Eating isn't necessary?

 

[nazz]

Eating isn't necessary?

Eating is but I could go vegetarian. I am cutting down on meat.

 

[paarsurrey]

If your religion at any point ever practiced animal sacrifice are you for bringing it back?

Can you also explain why not if you do object to it, or what sacrifice could mean for you?

I wouldn't mind animal sacrifice in a group because its like having a ritual barbecue basically. The animal has to be treated humanely in my tradition, not confined all its life. The animal would have a good life before becoming food, and I already eat meat. Plus it honors the gods- in my mind.

On what authority should one kill an animal in the first place? Please.

Regards

 

[Gnostic Seeker]

On what authority should one kill an animal in the first place? Please.

Regards

The same we kill to eat meat- on our own authority.

 

[Riverwolf]

Eating is but I could go vegetarian. I am cutting down on meat.

That still involves killing other living things. And yogurt is, itself, alive.