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Are you for trump?

Are you voting for trump?

  • Yes

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9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
Right. Speculation time. Are such supporters racists and misogynists, even if they don't say that they are (based on their opinions and/or actions)?
Sure seems that way to me, though I don't think the difference between "is a racist & misogynist" and "merely behaves like a racist & misogynist" really matters to me.
 

Secret Chief

Veteran Member
Sure seems that way to me, though I don't think the difference between "is a racist & misogynist" and "merely behaves like a racist & misogynist" really matters to me.
Nor me but it seems like there aren't any racists in the world. Not even the ones that say "I'm not a racist but..."
 

OtherSheep

<--@ Titangel
Nor me but it seems like there aren't any racists in the world. Not even the ones that say "I'm not a racist but..."

The only people who aren't racist for their own race are racist for another. In the same world where racism is called a hate crime, two lives/races matter. One is called chosen and one is black. If even one race matters, so do all the rest.
 
I'm not going to vote for Trump or Biden. Also not going to feel butthurt if either Biden or Trumps wins. My life pre-Trump, post-Trump really hasn't changed much, so another 4 years with or without Trump. :shrug:

Typical human attitude, if it doesn't directly effect me, I don't care. How many people shrugged and said they didn't care back in the day when nazi Germany started conquering its neighbors? Humans are too stupid to survive. Trump has asked multiple times why we can't use nuclear weapons because he lives in his own delusional dream world. He'll probably kick off a nuclear war before he is out of office.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
Typical human attitude, if it doesn't directly effect me, I don't care. How many people shrugged and said they didn't care back in the day when nazi Germany started conquering its neighbors? Humans are too stupid to survive. Trump has asked multiple times why we can't use nuclear weapons because he lives in his own delusional dream world. He'll probably kick off a nuclear war before he is out of office.

I'd expect a lot of them either didn't have direct information or where left to rely on media propaganda.

I'm sure your belief that he will kick off a nuclear war puts you in a later category. Relying on propaganda you probably would have gone along with Hitler.
 

halbhh

The wonder and awe of "all things".
Put this as a poll since there is so much anti-trump vibes here I don't know if anyone would answer it. It is a yes or no question meaning if you can find positive things to say or choose to expand your vote here (or want to "other it" as many do), but for now it's yes or not. Nothing is a fixed answer so we won't shoot you down if you said yesish.

Just curious.
I have zero against Trump on a personal level -- if he was a neighbor, I'd be delighted if he would come over and visit for a cookout.

I'd tell him about Christ, probably, as it's very evident he barely knows anything at all of the religion he wants to merely use as a banner, for cynical political manipulation.

I totally object very strongly to Trump being president -- he is very badly suited for the job, and causing a lot of harm.

Ironically, the group among the evangelicals that voted for him are said to hope he will preserve and protect their way of life -- the sharp irony is that Trump will powerfully endanger that very way of life for them they hoped he'd preserve.

But, for any real believer, the only true hope and security is Christ, and never any mortal man/leader here on earth.
 

OtherSheep

<--@ Titangel
Now you will?

I don't think I'll know that until the day arrives. I'm a creature of instinct. I know what I don't like from a sort of intellectual research, and the parameters of that research are set by my instincts.

Some things seem to be hardwired into every human being, even the attitude thereof.
Some say, Fire pretty. ... Some say, Fire! get water! ... Some say, Fire! Run!
So then: Some say, Vote for pretty Fire. .+. Some say, Vote to stop the burners.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
I have zero against Trump on a personal level -- if he was a neighbor, I'd be delighted if he would come over and visit for a cookout.

I'd tell him about Christ, probably, as it's very evident he barely knows anything at all of the religion he wants to merely use as a banner, for cynical political manipulation.

I totally object very strongly to Trump being president -- he is very badly suited for the job, and causing a lot of harm.

Ironically, the group among the evangelicals that voted for him are said to hope he will preserve and protect their way of life -- the sharp irony is that Trump will powerfully endanger that very way of life for them they hoped he'd preserve.

But, for any real believer, the only true hope and security is Christ, and never any mortal man/leader here on earth.
It's unfortunate that there aren't more Christians like you.
 
I'd expect a lot of them either didn't have direct information or where left to rely on media propaganda.

I'm sure your belief that he will kick off a nuclear war puts you in a later category. Relying on propaganda you probably would have gone along with Hitler.

I don't mindlessly follow anyone's propaganda. I am aware that any source of information is biased in some fashion, just the way it is. Therefore, I view information from any source with skepticism, get information from multiple sources, and use common sense when determining what I should believe. Trump's own people say he is mentally unfit for the job and has asked why nuclear weapons aren't used more often. Trump himself claims he's stable in front of camera's, I can't remember any other president having to ensure people that he was mentally stable. The fact that Trump thinks he has to reassure people that he's mentally stable should be a HUGE red flag to everyone, yet the media is just whistling Dixie and pretending that nothings amiss.
 
What effect do you think that will have?

America has been the leader of the free world for decades but now, under Trumps watch, we are withdrawing from the world and alienating long time allies. I don't pin it all on Trump though, since the Gulf War the world has been losing faith and trust in America as the leader of the free world. Actually, at this point, proclaiming America as the leader of the free world sounds more like the punch line to a joke. Now Trump is trash talking the WHO, yea, the effect will be that the world will think America only cares about itself, which it does. Hard to lead others when they all think you are selfish and untrustworthy.
 
I've never seen a man so unconcerned about stepping on every holy toe he comes in contact with. The man has balls of steel. I find Trump to be the most entertaining president in U.S. history... For that he gets my vote.

:facepalm: THE PRESIDENTS JOB IS NOT ABOUT BEING ENTERTAINING!!!!!

Sorry, I usually don't use all caps but... seriously? The person sitting in the oval office needs to take their job seriously and Trump has not been taking his position as president of the United States seriously. The damage Trump has done in his first four years will take much more than four years to fix, some of it can never be fixed, like all the people who died because he bungled Americas Covid-19 response. If Trump gets another four years he will run this country completely into the ground. I'm not a Democrat, I don't like Biden, but Biden isn't going to burn our country to the ground, Trump on the other hand...

Besides, it's not like Trumps going to go away if he doesn't get reelected. The guy is addicted to getting attention, he'll still be around saying and doing crazy s**t, but as a civilian at least his crazy s**t is a lot less likely to cause damage.
 

OtherSheep

<--@ Titangel
I'd probably riot too if cops were murdering my people and the government was just like: *shrug* we don't care.

Does it seem odd to you that Antifa is heard complaining that police weren't doing anything to help them, in the middle of the riots? Aren't they the ones who asked for defunding the police? The rioters, when they were helped, were helped by the police. Who will do that when the police are gone? ... Nobody. There's a reason why the lawless want the law gone. It ain't pretty. "Do as thou wilt shall be the whole of the law," says a Mason. "let us cast their laws away" ... "brute beasts fit only to be hunted down and killed," says the Bible.

People who don't do crimes are not the ones being rioted in support of. Your people, my people, any people at all, if they don't do crimes don't need to worry. But when the rioters are running the asylum, everyone will need to worry... because there will be no law. The prisons are opened, in the history of this sort of activity.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
I don't mindlessly follow anyone's propaganda. I am aware that any source of information is biased in some fashion, just the way it is. Therefore, I view information from any source with skepticism, get information from multiple sources, and use common sense when determining what I should believe. Trump's own people say he is mentally unfit for the job and has asked why nuclear weapons aren't used more often. Trump himself claims he's stable in front of camera's, I can't remember any other president having to ensure people that he was mentally stable. The fact that Trump thinks he has to reassure people that he's mentally stable should be a HUGE red flag to everyone, yet the media is just whistling Dixie and pretending that nothings amiss.

Ok, but you have to rely on some source of information, make a judgement of that it is reliable. Myself, I haven't found a source that I've deemed reliable enough to make a call on.
 

OtherSheep

<--@ Titangel
:facepalm: THE PRESIDENTS JOB IS NOT ABOUT BEING ENTERTAINING!!!!!

The man can't help it if he has a sense of humor, a sense of the ridiculous, and a big helping of sarcasm.

What the president's job is the constitution describes. Nowhere does it say that a guy has to keep wearing the hangar in his jacket, four years straight.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
America has been the leader of the free world for decades but now, under Trumps watch, we are withdrawing from the world and alienating long time allies. I don't pin it all on Trump though, since the Gulf War the world has been losing faith and trust in America as the leader of the free world. Actually, at this point, proclaiming America as the leader of the free world sounds more like the punch line to a joke. Now Trump is trash talking the WHO, yea, the effect will be that the world will think America only cares about itself, which it does. Hard to lead others when they all think you are selfish and untrustworthy.

I don't think the US ought to be a world leader. So I understand your point but for me, it is not an important issue.
 
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