Are you going to get the flu shot (H1N1)?

[gnomon]

I'm not getting the vaccine.

Mainly because I'm stupid.

I finally received another vaccination shot for pneumonia and considering I do get sick pretty much every year with the flu it would be wise for me to do so. Especially since I don't have a spleen and seem to be susceptible to getting sinus infections, two ear infections over the last year, some mystery infection in my leg that was first thought to be a tumor but wasn't, etc.

Man am I stupid.

Maybe I should get the vaccine.

 

[YmirGF]

I have no plans to have the H1M1 flu shot.

 

[T-Dawg]

Naturopathic Anti/Vaccine Thread (What to do once you've been injected), page 1

Good abovetopsecret thread on vaccines.

What do you think (other than that the source is ATS and therefore it can't be true )?

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

I've never had a flu shot and have no plans to get one any time soon. I'm skeptical of the need for vaccinations for minor illnesses. I suppose if the virus mutated and became life-threatening I might reconsider.

The flu already is life-threatening. "Regular" flu kills a staggering number of people each year, and swine flu has been hospitalizing and in some cases killing "healthy" young people.

Also, herd immunity really is a major issue when it comes to immunization. The more people who get immunized, the more that people who don't get the vaccine (either because it's counter-indicated for them, or out of ignorance or apathy) are protected as well.

Personally, I'll be getting an H1N1 immunization. Around here, they're saying that only people in high-risk groups should get it in the first few weeks, but I plan to get it after that.

 

[Nepenthe]

Naturopathic Anti/Vaccine Thread (What to do once you've been injected), page 1

Good abovetopsecret thread on vaccines.

Any site that suggest naturopathy or homeopathy is an insult to cognitive beings everywhere.
From the Above Top Secret site:

"It has been discovered that many of the leading vaccines contained properties called Thimerosal(en.wikipedia.org...) created by Eli Lilly a preservative which is 50% mercury which is a powerful neurotoxin.(en.wikipedia.org...)"​

Lol! 50% mercury?????? :biglaugh:

"Flu vaccines are known to have a number of chemical toxins such as formaldehyde, phenol(carbolic acid)ethylene glycol (antifreeze) and in addition to the viruses and additional additives, they are also known to contain adjuvants such as aluminum and the infamous squalene."
​

Oh my... Antifreeze has ethylene glycol, some vaccines have Phenoxyethanol which is a similar chemical makeup as ethylene glycol but is a harmless organic molecule.

What do you think (other than that the source is ATS and therefore it can't be true )?

That pretty much sums it up.

 

[madhatter85]

I hope I get swine flu.

 

[rageoftyrael]

wow, madhatter85, that is pretty funny, lol.

 

[T-Dawg]

Lol! 50% mercury??????

Apparently. This could be an example of the "big lie" propaganda - 50% mercury sounds so ridiculous (and, well, it is), that you would never believe it even if it were actually true.

Oh my... Antifreeze has ethylene glycol, some vaccines have Phenoxyethanol which is a similar chemical makeup as ethylene glycol but is a harmless organic molecule.

But it says that it has ethylene glycol in the vaccines. Are you saying that ATS LIED?!?
And what about the other toxins they mentioned? Are they too false claims?

 

[Nepenthe]

Apparently. This could be an example of the "big lie" propaganda - 50% mercury sounds so ridiculous (and, well, it is), that you would never believe it even if it were actually true.But it says that it has ethylene glycol in the vaccines. Are you saying that ATS LIED?!?
And what about the other toxins they mentioned? Are they too false claims?

:yes:

eta: If you see this in your browser address bar just assume you're being lied to: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/

 

[TurkeyOnRye]

I have some definite concerns about what appears to me to be a series of indiscriminate vaccinations. Banging anything up a person's veins should be considered a major procedure. I do not buy into the efficacy of vaccinations or that it is a one-shot side effect-free operation. Use common sense practices as a means of first defense.

Use a saline solution to clear nasal passages (approximately 1tsp. salt per cup of water, should have the consistency of tears.). Just lean over a bathroom tub or sink and snort it up. Very effective.

Drink hot beverages to wash away proliferating viruses from the lining of the throat into the stomach where they cannot survive.

Keep hands away from the face. Wash hands frequently and use general sanitation practices.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

All that is fine, but I think it's prudent to wash your hands AND get vaccinated.

Though I do like the "drink hot beverages" advice. I'll have to remember that for the next time my wife tells me I drink too much coffee: "but I have to, honey - it's for disease prevention."

 

[MSizer]

All that is fine, but I think it's prudent to wash your hands AND get vaccinated.

Though I do like the "drink hot beverages" advice. I'll have to remember that for the next time my wife tells me I drink too much coffee: "but I have to, honey - it's for disease prevention."

I hear that if you add a capfull of brandy it's even more effective. (my source? The journal of Michael Sizer's darn good home remedies. I inherited it from my grandfather )

 

[tumbleweed41]

I hear that if you add a capfull of brandy it's even more effective. (my source? The journal of Michael Sizer's darn good home remedies. I inherited it from my grandfather )

I have no peer reviewed articles, nor have I preformed double blind tests....

But Wild Turkey, Lemon Tea, and Honey kick any cold or flu in this house

 

[MSizer]

I have no peer reviewed articles, nor have I preformed double blind tests....

But Wild Turkey, Lemon Tea, and Honey kick any cold or flu in this house

I just checked my journal. You can do a whole two glasses of wine with that one! Thanks for the tip. (I don't think I'll try to sub anything in for the turkey tho - tofu just will not cut it in this one :no

To actually answer the OP - I know full well that all the evidence suggests that I should get a shot. I also know that death is a potential consequence of contracting the virus. Still, I'm literally just too lazy to bother. Can't explain it - just is.

 

[madhatter85]

wow, madhatter85, that is pretty funny, lol.

Thanks! haha, yeah i thought it was great when i read it.

 

[jamaesi]

Apparently. This could be an example of the "big lie" propaganda - 50% mercury sounds so ridiculous (and, well, it is), that you would never believe it even if it were actually true.But it says that it has ethylene glycol in the vaccines. Are you saying that ATS LIED?!?
And what about the other toxins they mentioned? Are they too false claims?

Linked to this site earlier in the thread, you might want to read it. Also, ethylene glycol is used in the production of vaccines, not in them.

 

[Reverend Rick]

I'm not worried about H1N1. I have lived a life full of terrible stuff and my immune system seems to shrug things off quickly. People who have not been abused by life like I have might want to take the vaccine as your immune systems are worthless and weak and you might just die.

If there where more vaccine, given the opportunity, I probably would get the shot. I think it is best for the young folks to get in line first. There is too big a shortage.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

There is no shortage of vaccine in the UK There is enough for a third of the population right now and the rest by Christmas.

Unlike seasonal flue which kills thousands of sickly and older people each year, Swine flue has proved most dangerous to children and young aldults. As yet they have no idea why it is deadly to some people and a mild condition for others.

 

[Reverend Rick]

There is no shortage of vaccine in the UK There is enough for a third of the population right now and the rest by Christmas.

Unlike seasonal flue which kills thousands of sickly and older people each year, Swine flue has proved most dangerous to children and young adults. As yet they have no idea why it is deadly to some people and a mild condition for others.

Older people have actually had diseases before. Instead of immunizations, many older folks have had:

Chicken Pox
Mumps
measles
croup
perhaps others.

Their bodies actually had to deal with illness and ward it off. Younger people have been protected from these experiences and have weaker defense systems.

 

[challupa]

Older people have actually had diseases before. Instead of immunizations, many older folks have had:

Chicken Pox
Mumps
measles
croup
perhaps others.

Their bodies actually had to deal with illness and ward it off. Younger people have been protected from these experiences and have weaker defense systems.

Maybe that it. I'm sure it has alot to do with it. However, the 1918 flu acted somewhat like this one has and took lots of young adults and those young adults had all the diseases and not the vacine back then. Some are saying that it was because there still was no cure for TB then, but my grandmother died in that flu and she was a young woman, no TB, with a family, so basically in the prime of her life. So who knows. I have had it so won't be getting the shot. We haven't seen too many elderly getting this flu, it has been mostly the young or those with pre-existing conditions that complicated things that have died.