Aren't you glad Jesus got violently executed? Why not?

[Muffled]

No. Unfortunately I believe there was no other way.

 

[Muffled]

He was certainly a false teacher, imo, and he deserved ignoring at the least and driving out at best. Killing him may have been going too far, because it didn't exactly make his message go away...

I believe calling God a false teacher is blasphemy.

 

[Muffled]

IT, IMO, justifies the despicable nature of man as promoted by the church.
Do you think this is what Jesus wanted?

I think it more likely the narrative created because Jesus was not the Messiah they expected.

I believe there was no crating a narrative other than what actually happened.

 

[Nakosis]

I believe there was no crating a narrative other than what actually happened.

I suspect news media organizations love you.

Everyone creates a narrative IMO. Accuracy can vary with the story teller.

 

[1213]

"Thou shalt not kill"
...

Actually, if we are accurate, the commandment is “You shall not murder” Ex. 20:13. Murder is unlawful killing and not accepted, killing is in some cases allowed.

 

[Shakeel]

I believe that Jesus came for me and willingly died on the cross and rose again. I am thankful to Jesus for being willing to go through that suffering for me.

The same suffering thousands of others went through? Isn't it more of a sacrifice for an "ordinary person" to sacrifice their life knowing they will stay dead than someone dying knowing they'll be back in a few days? What did he give up? Nothing! Oh pain? Really you're forgiven because he felt pain? Was it the worst pain? You wouldn't know. But probably it wasn't special when it comes to cases like it. So what makes it special?

 

[Psalm23]

The same suffering thousands of others went through? Isn't it more of a sacrifice for an "ordinary person" to sacrifice their life knowing they will stay dead than someone dying knowing they'll be back in a few days? What did he give up? Nothing! Oh pain? Really you're forgiven because he felt pain? Was it the worst pain? You wouldn't know. But probably it wasn't special when it comes to cases like it. So what makes it special?

I believe that the crucifixion of Jesus and his resurrection has made it possible for those who would believe and trust in Jesus to be saved. Without either the crucifixion or resurrection of Christ, there is no salvation in Christianity. Both of the crucifixion and resurrection are essential for salvation in Christianity.
I cannot begin to imagine the anguish of what it is like to go through crucifixion.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

I believe calling God a false teacher is blasphemy.

Except that God is not a man. Calling a man God is idolatry.

 

[Shakeel]

I believe that the crucifixion of Jesus and his resurrection has made it possible for those who would believe and trust in Jesus to be saved.

I know, my comment was rather about why you believe that.

I cannot begin to imagine the anguish of what it is like to go through crucifixion.

But do you acknowledge that

"In antiquity, thousands upon thousands of people were crucified, which at the time was considered to be one of the most brutal and shameful ways to die. In Rome, the crucifixion process was a long one, entailing scourging (more on that later) before the victim was nailed and hung from the cross."

Jesus Wasn't the Only Man to Be Crucified. Here's the History Behind This Brutal Practice.

And what would make such death special?

 

[rational experiences]

Some basic questions.

Did God kill Jesus?
No. His living men brothers did.

So you do a review.

It says a baby man was born as a son of God.

We are taught God our father created two adult humans. First.

Babies are sex created.

Not this baby said humans. But didn't his human mother get pregnant?

Yes.

Okay seems contradictory advice.

You can think for yourself can't you?

If someone tells me a mother human pregnancy was due to gods spirits returning healing I would apply a scientific reason.

Medical.

Is genesis human owned referenced genetic advice?

Is a life health presence in DNA dependent of heavens state of mass?

Yes.

So a medical healer statement said human man DNA had finally healed returned after Moses mutation pyramid science mass ground water removal flood?

Yes. Obvious it was human advice and medical.

Was it miraculous?

How?

A human doing all comparisons said so.

Humans once mutated genetics suddenly healed.

Not really any miracle it was science human advice.

Now I love family. I don't abide pain and suffering and no one will make me claim it holy.

I look at my family in acute suffering wondering where your observing minds have gone!

Can't you see it happening or are you going to say God allows it...hence it is acceptable like Jesus theme?

The story says his human brothers did it to him.

Yet the status was science caused.

So I read what you all believe in then think.

It says Christ consciousness a holy.mind.

Then 2020 years ago Jesus Christ consciousness occurred.

Jesus before Christ.

I would logically assert Christ only wouldn't you with gods holy heavens as holiness?

Jesus would science state a long time ago life was totally destroyed died. Jesus satanic attack not a saved life as any life whatsoever reason.

After ice age we lived with Christ.

Then Egyptians caused Moses attack. One extra add cross nuclear earth God mass minus. Using old science thesis.

Then in new rebuilding era three men as Jesus on cross seen in clouds above mountain UFO ark burning attack. Three destroyed life attacked DNA men bodies historic gone.

Three times man's life nuclear destroyed in science.

DNA lived mutated since new Jesus attack was healing 2000 year ago advice.

Prophetic 2012. Void womb vacuum would rebirth new life ending nuclear timed attack.

Science never allowed event repracticed science. Why life is dying in multiples sacrificed.

Father never did it.
God never did it.

Man's science caused sin against God existing science did it.

Blamed God as natural god it...I never knew he says as a liar.

Now if all life was destroyed as original Jesus. Jesus statement death is before Christ

CH gases arise out of stone cooled.

We returned in.life after Christ.

So everytime you say life returned from death you are discussing natural life yourselves never Jesus.

Then when nuclear science attacks life again you tell the same theme.

In modern earth life we survive only because reactive earth mass is less as earth owns less mass itself.

Common sense has to surely prevail?

 

[Sundance]

The unfortunate death of Jesus of Nazareth is a saddening thing. Yet, it does give ample room to contemplation. In my case, it reminds me of the death of Socrates, who was put to death by poisoning for teaching about “things in the Heavens and on earth”, distancing himself from the gods of the Athenians.

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

I would wonder what @Kelly of the Phoenix would have to say about some of this. Or you gentle reader.

I’m at work and can’t go into detail on my phone, but Fifty Shades of Gray wasn’t out yet and the S&M people need something to enjoy too lol.

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

I just got a clean shave today. The Rosary I got yesterday. I got clean off drugs in May

Congrats

 

[Muffled]

I suspect news media organizations love you.

Everyone creates a narrative IMO. Accuracy can vary with the story teller.

I believe that is where the Paraclete comes in to keep a person's story straight.

 

[Muffled]

Except that God is not a man. Calling a man God is idolatry.

I believe that God is not a man but I believe He is in one. That is not idolatry because God is still God no matter where He is.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I believe calling God a false teacher is blasphemy.

The beliefs of religions that are not your own are often considered blasphemy. Guess who the burden of proof is on?

 

[Muffled]

The unfortunate death of Jesus of Nazareth is a saddening thing. Yet, it does give ample room to contemplation. In my case, it reminds me of the death of Socrates, who was put to death by poisoning for teaching about “things in the Heavens and on earth”, distancing himself from the gods of the Athenians.

I believe we have seen plenty of "Don't mess with my beliefs or I will kill you." I haven't been killed yet but as an iconoclast I tend to rile people up pretty well.

 

[Muffled]

The beliefs of religions that are not your own are often considered blasphemy. Guess who the burden of proof is on?

I believe blasphemy is saying something about God that isn't true. Granted some people are far from the truth in their beliefs.

 

[Nakosis]

I believe that is where the Paraclete comes in to keep a person's story straight.

Assuming the Paraclete is not a creation of the subconscious mind.
While you may believe otherwise, I am quite certain the subconscious mind is capable of creating a convincing experience of such an entity.

Generally no one will question what they experience for themselves. Maybe they should.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I believe blasphemy is saying something about God that isn't true. Granted some people are far from the truth in their beliefs.

And how would you support your beliefs? How can you show that someone else's religious beliefs are wrong? Remember, the Bible is just the claim, it is not the evidence.