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Arguing Against Atheism is Silly

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
There's nothing to arguing against.
:shrug:

Edited* Unless you can bring scientific evidence of any god's existence to the table.
 
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9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
There isn't? Seems to me the countless arguments against atheism provide abundance evidence of the contrary...
I know of plenty of arguments for theism (poor ones, but still arguments). Is that what you mean by arguments against atheism, or are you talking about something else?
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
Can't argue with that. :D

I do often find it silly, though. I also find arguing against theism silly. Probably because I find the words "theism" and "atheism" silly. Though perhaps "silly" is not quite the right word to use there...
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
I know of plenty of arguments for theism (poor ones, but still arguments). Is that what you mean by arguments against atheism, or are you talking about something else?

No... I mean arguments against atheism. Ranging from silly notions such as "atheism provides an insufficient basis for morality" to "atheism is nihilism" and so forth.
 
There's nothing to arguing against.
:shrug:
True, but if there was, I mean, if atheism was a belief system just like Christianity or Islam then the religious folk could chalk it up to being just another belief system, and an inferior one at that!

I mean, the atheist religion can't even explain where the universe came from, and why we are here. Hell they can't even tell us what the rules are, and have no prophets or church.

Advantage - monotheism.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
No... I mean arguments against atheism. Ranging from silly notions such as "atheism provides an insufficient basis for morality" to "atheism is nihilism" and so forth.
Ah. Yeah... is an argument a misunderstanding of atheism really an argument against atheism?

Personally, I've never seen "atheism provides an insufficient basis for morality" as an actual argument against atheism. All it implies is that atheists will have to derive their morality from something other than the mere lack of belief in gods... which seems obvious to me and not a reason to become a theist.
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
Ah. Yeah... is an argument a misunderstanding of atheism really an argument against atheism?

Yes and no - I suppose it depends on your point of view. To someone who holds to a a given notion of gods, atheism holds particular implications or consequences based on their perspective. Put another way, to them what they say is not a misunderstanding, but an inherent extension of rejecting their gods. If, for example, you believe that morality comes from your god, it is inherently implied in the rejection of that god that you also reject morality and are an amoral (or even immoral) individual.


Personally, I've never seen "atheism provides an insufficient basis for morality" as an actual argument against atheism. All it implies is that atheists will have to derive their morality from something other than the mere lack of belief in gods... which seems obvious to me and not a reason to become a theist.

It seems obvious to me too, but if someone believes morality comes from their god and only from their god, the argument logically follows, even as you and I feel it isn't particularly reasonable. Some folks are particularly self-righteous about their ideologies though, so to them it looks reasonable and sound. As outsiders who don't think inside their boxes, it is a difficult thing for us to understand.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
I know of plenty of arguments for theism (poor ones, but still arguments). Is that what you mean by arguments against atheism, or are you talking about something else?

I mean there's no beliefs, no creeds, no doctrine, nothing to unite atheists together other than they lack any beliefs about Gods.

Religious folks can argue for their religious beliefs. An atheist can argue against whatever those beliefs may be. I don't argue that anyone else should be a atheist. Don't really recall seeing an atheist arguing everyone should be an atheist. If one did I suppose against that since it's a belief, but being an atheist doesn't require a person to believe everyone or anyone else should be an atheist.

I don't choose to be an atheist. I just find no credible reason to believe in any particular God. I see no credible reason, I suppose I mean scientific, to disbelieve in any particular God. There just not verifiable knowledge for me to have any belief about God.

Other folks may have some special knowledge about God. I'm not saying they don't. I just don't see any particular reason to believe that either.

I lack any beliefs about gods. What the argument against that?
 

Mindmaster

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
There's nothing to arguing against.
:shrug:

Not really, atheism is an inherently arrogant position in the first place. But. before someone gets upset, let me explain. The atheist no more knows there is no god any more than the average devotee knows there is. They're both simply guessing...

The atheist presumes that since they aren't aware of any spiritual being they will just pretend they're not there. The follow of faith doesn't know any better, but they're willing to pretend just in case they **** that guy off. :D
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
Not really, atheism is an inherently arrogant position in the first place. But. before someone gets upset, let me explain. The atheist no more knows there is no god any more than the average devotee knows there is. They're both simply guessing...

The atheist presumes that since they aren't aware of any spiritual being they will just pretend they're not there. The follow of faith doesn't know any better, but they're willing to pretend just in case they **** that guy off. :D

An atheist lacks any knowledge about any gods existence. Do you think they are presuming their own lack of knowledge? I'm not sure what's arrogant in saying about one's self that they don't know about something.
 

Falvlun

Earthbending Lemur
Premium Member
There's nothing to arguing against.
:shrug:
If someone lacked belief that murder was wrong, wouldn't you try to convince them that it is?

Not having a belief can have just as many consequences as having one.
 
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