Ask a Mormon! (Part Two)

[Truth_Faith13]

Ridiculous. We're taught to wait until we're married. After that, I could have sex all day and night with my wife everyday and the Church wouldn't care a bit.

hehe, i know you have to wait til after your married! thats wasnt suggesting for everyone just those that were married. it just said that saturday you def should have to!

The other thing it said which I just realised and should ask you... is you "cant" shop on sundays? (notice i am quoting the word cant! )

 

[Katzpur]

The other thing it said which I just realised and should ask you... is you "cant" shop on sundays? (notice i am quoting the word cant! )

LOL! I really appreciate how careful you're being not to offend. That's really nice of you. We try to keep the Sabbath Day holy. For us, that means attending Church, spending time with our families doing activities of a spiritual nature, studying the scriptures or other good reading material, etc. We do our best not to shop on Sundays, mow the laws, wash the cars, etc. We also use the other six days of the week to go to movies, sporting events, etc. I wouldn't say that we're hard-liners when it comes to using our common sense, though. If I had child who woke up sick on a Sunday morning, I certainly wouldn't hesitate to shop for medicine, etc. Mostly, it's a matter of planning. We try to reverse one day a week to focus strictly on the Lord. We're not always 100% successful, but for the most part, we do a pretty good job.

 

[Truth_Faith13]

still cant find that link! oh well.... but I did come across lots of other things (unfortunately it all seems to be criticism) It was about a woman who didnt want her child to be baptized.... and the point brought up were...

Children have to be baptized at the age of 8
women were not allowed to witness weddings or baptisms (even of their own children) and they had to be married at the age of 21 and start a family staying at home (hmmm no hope for me being LDS then as I am already 21!!! )

What else....

Oh yes you have to give 10% of your earnings to the church. If you dont do any of these you get excommunicated.

Your thoughts?
Sorry its all criticism,, I suppose thats the internet for you!

 

[SoyLeche]

still cant find that link! oh well.... but I did come across lots of other things (unfortunately it all seems to be criticism) It was about a woman who didnt want her child to be baptized.... and the point brought up were...

Children have to be baptized at the age of 8
women were not allowed to witness weddings or baptisms (even of their own children) and they had to be married at the age of 21 and start a family staying at home (hmmm no hope for me being LDS then as I am already 21!!! )

What else....

Oh yes you have to give 10% of your earnings to the church. If you dont do any of these you get excommunicated.

Your thoughts?
Sorry its all criticism,, I suppose thats the internet for you!

We can officially say that the website you found is full of crap. I wouldn't trust a single thing that it says.

 

[Truth_Faith13]

We can officially say that the website you found is full of crap. I wouldn't trust a single thing that it says.

hmm, unless I have misread... they were all comments from LDS people who were moaning about their own church! sorry if I have! take a look for yourself...

http://www.exmormon.org/mormon/mormon291.htm

obviously I dont know what year this is in. Also it says exmormon but then they are speaking as if they are still part of the church!

At least you all sound lovely!

 

[SoyLeche]

hmm, unless I have misread... they were all comments from LDS people who were moaning about their own church! sorry if I have! take a look for yourself...

http://www.exmormon.org/mormon/mormon291.htm

obviously I dont know what year this is in. Also it says exmormon but then they are speaking as if they are still part of the church!

At least you all sound lovely!

Regardless of who they claim to be, every quote you've posted here from that site is false. I wound't trust that site in the slightest.

 

[Truth_Faith13]

I find it fascination how people from the same faith can have such a different view on things. I can understand different religions, but the same faith?!

Out of curiosity, what is your views on the points...

many thanks for your help! I hope its not to alarming for you!

 

[Katzpur]

Also it says exmormon but then they are speaking as if they are still part of the church!

Yeah, that's kind of like expecting accurate information on Jesus Christ from Judas Iscariot.

At least you all sound lovely!

Thank you! We think we're a pretty Christian bunch for being part of a non-Christian cutl.

 

[SoyLeche]

I find it fascination how people from the same faith can have such a different view on things. I can understand different religions, but the same faith?!

Out of curiosity, what is your views on the points...

many thanks for your help! I hope its not to alarming for you!

You mean besides that the points are false?

 

[Truth_Faith13]

Its really upset you hasnt it soyleche - it would me too! there falso to you yes, and I am pleased they are. But they cant be false to them otherwise they wouldnt have stated them. Or do you think the whole thing is made up?

 

[SoyLeche]

Its really upset you hasnt it soyleche - it would me too! there falso to you yes, and I am pleased they are. But they cant be false to them otherwise they wouldnt have stated them. Or do you think the whole thing is made up?

It hasn't really upset me, I hear stuff like this all the time. I just don't bother taking the time to explain things that are flat out wrong. Saying "they are wrong" suffices for me.

 

[SoyLeche]

Its really upset you hasnt it soyleche - it would me too! there falso to you yes, and I am pleased they are. But they cant be false to them otherwise they wouldnt have stated them. Or do you think the whole thing is made up?

They may in fact believe what they say. They are wrong though. I am not in a position to explain why they believe it, but I can say that they are wrong.

 

[Bishka]

Its really upset you hasnt it soyleche - it would me too! there falso to you yes, and I am pleased they are. But they cant be false to them otherwise they wouldnt have stated them. Or do you think the whole thing is made up?

The website is called 'ex-mormon' for a reason. The were unsatisfied by something they didn't understand and left (that's usually what happens), or someone offended them and they left (which I found the silliest reason to leave, it's the doctrine you should care about!)

 

[Katzpur]

Children have to be baptized at the age of 8

We typically baptize at the are of 8 and no younger. We believe a child has to have reached an age where he or she has a basic understanding of the gospel, can recognize the need for repentence and have a faith in Christ.

women were not allowed to witness weddings or baptisms (even of their own children)

Totally inaccurate. A person does not even need to be a member of our Church to witness a baptism. A woman may witness any event a man may.

and they had to be married at the age of 21 and start a family staying at home (hmmm no hope for me being LDS then as I am already 21!!! )

LDS women do tend to marry younger than non-LDS women in my experience, but there is no age requirement at all. I am an LDS woman who married at 21, had her first child at 31 and who has always had a career outside the home.

Oh yes you have to give 10% of your earnings to the church. If you dont do any of these you get excommunicated.

We live the law of tithing which is that we give 10% of our increase to the Church. It's not a "requirement." A person is not excommunicated for failure to pay his tithing. The only people who would even know that he hadn't paid were his Bishop and probably the Bishop's Clerk (who handles the congregation's finances).

Thanks for your questions.

 

[Truth_Faith13]

We typically baptize at the are of 8 and no younger. We believe a child has to have reached an age where he or she has a basic understanding of the gospel, can recognize the need for repentence and have a faith in Christ.

Totally inaccurate. A person does not even need to be a member of our Church to witness a baptism. A woman may witness any event a man may.

LDS women do tend to marry younger than non-LDS women in my experience, but there is no age requirement at all. I am an LDS woman who married at 21, had her first child at 31 and who has always had a career outside the home.

We live the law of tithing which is that we give 10% of our increase to the Church. It's not a "requirement." A person is not excommunicated for failure to pay his tithing. The only people who would even know that he hadn't paid were his Bishop and probably the Bishop's Clerk (who handles the congregation's finances).

Thanks for your questions.

Thanks for answering them! I can understand about not baptizing until the age of 8. I was christened shortly after birth and was brought up thinking I was C of E, then was infromed I was actually christened in a methodist church and now dont have the belief of either - my family like to say they believe in God, but have never gone to Church dont see the difference between the denominations! lol!

 

[Truth_Faith13]

Hehe - Im back again! sorry for all the questions. I have been flicking through some of th original posts of this thread. You believe the book of mormon to be the testament of Jesus Christ but it was written before his birth? Could you explain that to me please? Many thanks. As I said sorry for all the questions but I am really interested in your faith. Can I just confirm - you dont believe in the trinity but the Godhead?

 

[Aqualung]

Hehe - Im back again! sorry for all the questions. I have been flicking through some of th original posts of this thread. You believe the book of mormon to be the testament of Jesus Christ but it was written before his birth? Could you explain that to me please? Many thanks. As I said sorry for all the questions but I am really interested in your faith. Can I just confirm - you dont believe in the trinity but the Godhead?

It was written between 600 BC and 400 AD, but, just like the Bible, prophets before Christ prophesied that he would come.

The second question - you are correct.

 

[Katzpur]

Hehe - Im back again! sorry for all the questions. I have been flicking through some of th original posts of this thread. You believe the book of mormon to be the testament of Jesus Christ but it was written before his birth? Could you explain that to me please? Many thanks. As I said sorry for all the questions but I am really interested in your faith. Can I just confirm - you dont believe in the trinity but the Godhead?

Yes, the Book of Mormon is "another testament of Jesus Christ." It is the history, both religious and secular of several groups of people whom we believe we led by God to the American continent in ancient times. By far the largest portion of the book describes two civilizations, the Nephites and the Lamanites, who were both descendents of the House of Israel, and who lived on this continent between about 600 B.C. and 400 A.D.

When Jesus Christ spoke to his followers in the Holy Land, He is recorded in the Gospel of John as having said, “Other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.” He also said that His own personal mission was only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. So who were the “other sheep” of whom He spoke, people who were evidently not living in the Holy Land but who were, at the same time, of the house of Israel? We believe they were the people whose story is told in the Book of Mormon. After Christ’s resurrection, he stayed among his Apostles and others for a time. But, according to the Book of Mormon, before He returned to heaven where He now awaits the time of His Second Coming, He visited the people of ancient America. He established His Church here, teaching exactly the same gospel of love, forgiveness and mercy He had taught in the Holy Land.

The Book of Mormon is an account of a 1000-year history of some of the people of ancient America, and includes a number of chapters which describe in some detail Jesus Christ’s ministry among those people. It does not contradict or supplant anything in the Bible. Rather it complements and clarifies many of the doctrines to which the Bible alludes but is not entirely clear. Its purpose is literally to prove the Bible to be true, and, as stated on the title page of the book is “to the convincing of the Jew and Gentile that Jesus is the Christ.”

The Nephite prophets, being descendents of the Israelists, carried copies of the ancient scriptures when the came to the American continent. They particularly loved Isaiah and often quoted from his prophesies of a coming Messiah. They were also given prophiesies of their own, in which the coming of Christ was spoken of in greater detail than is found in the Bible.

 

[Comprehend]

Ridiculous. We're taught to wait until we're married. After that, I could have sex all day and night with my wife everyday and the Church wouldn't care a bit.

except for 3 hours on sunday... I think everyone would care then.

 

[Comprehend]

Children have to be baptized at the age of 8

nope, children do not "have to" be baptized. they can not be baptized before they are 8 but anytime after and never if they don't want.

women were not allowed to witness weddings or baptisms (even of their own children) and they had to be married at the age of 21 and start a family staying at home (hmmm no hope for me being LDS then as I am already 21!!! )

um... that is a retarded lie. Women do this every day.

What else....

Oh yes you have to give 10% of your earnings to the church. If you dont do any of these you get excommunicated.

Your thoughts?
Sorry its all criticism,, I suppose thats the internet for you!

negative on this one too. You don't have to pay tithing to be a member but you do to be temple worthy. However, that is entirely your choice, if one doesn't want to pay, they do not have to.