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Ask me Anything about Øneness?

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
And if we were One we would have all that. You just obliterated your position.
Who said we're One; we can choose to be one with many things.

Was saying that Oneness as a belief is also a choice; though reality might stem from it, some people believe in separation. :innocent:
 

1137

Here until I storm off again
Premium Member
Who said we're One, we can choose to be one with many things.

Was saying that Oneness as a belief is also a choice; though reality might stem from it, some people believe in separation. :innocent:

You can't simultaneously claim that we are not all One, but all stem from One source. It's paradoxical. At best a whole unites from individuals, such as a community.
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
You can't simultaneously claim that we are not all One, but all stem from One source.
Just did, yet shall explain it again....

There are multiple dimensions between complete separation (Hell) and Oneness (Heaven), we're somewhere in the middle.

The mathematical formulated grid that maintains reality stems from the core; like a massive multiplayer online game; with us as the characters that exist within it.

So tho we're in this game, we are not the CPU, we might have our structuring made by the game; yet we have free will to choose. ;)
 

1137

Here until I storm off again
Premium Member
Just did, yet shall explain it again....

There are multiple dimensions between complete separation (Hell) and Oneness (Heaven), we're somewhere in the middle.

The mathematical formulated grid that maintains reality stems from the core; like a massive multiplayer online game; with us as the characters that exist within it.

So tho we're in this game, we are not the CPU, we might have our structuring made by the game; yet we have free will to choose. ;)

If there is heaven and hell there is duality, problem solved.

What mathematical grid? Whatever abstract order underlies the universe (and certainly hasn't been found by mathematics) doesn't imply oneness either, it's so abstract as to be irrelevant. The thing you ignore about an MMO is that you are still playing it. If we ran every possible evolution of every possible MMO character in their game, there would be literally trillions and trillions of individual stories.

If we have free will then we are isolated from mechanistic nature in some mental way. Again, evidence of dualism. You're essentially arguing against yourself at this point, which is kind of you but a bit boring for me. Perhaps the time has come for reflection?
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
If there is heaven and hell there is duality, problem solved.
What do you think is being discussed; think maybe you've missed the OP, and have ran with some concepts of your own. :rolleyes:
What mathematical grid?
First multiple quantum dimensions, then a mathematically equatable periodic table, then mathematical physics, the Fibonacci sequence interwoven into everything; the whole reality is quantifiable.
and certainly hasn't been found by mathematics
Numerous theoretical physicists including Michio Kaku, Einstein, Newton, Tesla, all recognized there is to much mathematical order for it all to be random chance.
Whatever abstract order underlies the universe doesn't imply oneness either
No one said it did; trying to help you see it, and you're trying to argue against what you believe, which is why what is being said is failing to sink in.
If we ran every possible evolution of every possible MMO character in their game, there would be literally trillions and trillions of individual stories.
Yes, that is called life, and reality, and that is the scenario God/CPU/Brahman is running.
If we have free will then we are isolated from mechanistic nature in some mental way.
We're shaped by our environment, even down to a DNA level; the whole point is to help us evolve spiritually, within a partially controlled environment.
Again, evidence of dualism.
Really not sure where you're coming from, as the OP stated both dualism and monism exist at the same time, and it is only a dimensional perspective, that stops us from understanding it.
You're essentially arguing against yourself at this point, which is kind of you but a bit boring for me. Perhaps the time has come for reflection?
Unfortunately, if a finger points, always 3 fingers point back; so within this topic, you've missed what was stated, I've repeated it clearer for you, and then you've continued with what you think oneness is, even with further explanation. :innocent:
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
You already know that I 100 % agree with the concept of Oneness you clearly and thoroughly explained. My question is : what role do Jesus and Mary play (and have played) in this vision?
 

1137

Here until I storm off again
Premium Member
What do you think is being discussed; think maybe you've missed the OP, and have ran with some concepts of your own. :rolleyes:

First multiple quantum dimensions, then a mathematically equatable periodic table, then mathematical physics, the Fibonacci sequence interwoven into everything; the whole reality is quantifiable.

Numerous theoretical physicists including Michio Kaku, Einstein, Newton, Tesla, all recognized there is to much mathematical order for it all to be random chance.

No one said it did; trying to help you see it, and you're trying to argue against what you believe, which is why what is being said is failing to sink in.

Yes, that is called life, and reality, and that is the scenario God/CPU/Brahman is running.

We're shaped by our environment, even down to a DNA level; the whole point is to help us evolve spiritually, within a partially controlled environment.

Really not sure where you're coming from, as the OP stated both dualism and monism exist at the same time, and it is only a dimensional perspective, that stops us from understanding it.

Unfortunately, if a finger points, always 3 fingers point back; so within this topic, you've missed what was stated, I've repeated it clearer for you, and then you've continued with what you think oneness is, even with further explanation. :innocent:

I guess my confusion is you openly and blatantly accepting something that is logically contradictory, and therefore illogical. You can't have monism AND dualism, it's as simple as the law of identity.
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
I guess my confusion is you openly and blatantly accepting something that is logically contradictory, and therefore illogical. You can't have monism AND dualism, it's as simple as the law of identity.
I must say that I do admire your patience, while remaining cool and calm, to boot. Bravo!
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
You can't have monism AND dualism
Of course we can, the Matrix we exist within is all code, the separation is experienced due to code; remove the code that creates any dimensions, and it is all really one. ;)
what role do Jesus and Mary play (and have played) in this vision?
Now that is an interesting question, Yeshua presents qualities of Øneness within his teachings; seems to have a firm grasp of the way it exists, so would say he has first hand experience of Heaven. :innocent:
 
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1137

Here until I storm off again
Premium Member
Of course we can, the Matrix we exist within is all code, the separation is experienced due to code; remove the code that creates any dimensions, and it is all really one. ;)

Now that is an interesting question, Yeshua presents qualities of Øneness within his teachings; seems to have a firm grasp of the way it exists, so would say he has first hand experience of Heaven. :innocent:

But I thought the code makes up everything, and that was your original argument for oneness?
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
But I thought the code makes up everything, and that was your original argument for oneness?
The code does make up everything; yet the code isn't Oneness, the code stems from a place of Oneness. ;)
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
Can you elaborate on what you mean by "a place of oneness"?
Yeah, why wrote the OP... It is beyond the dimensions, in a realm of pure consciousness; where pure energy from the CPU needs no form, as it is all things.

It is like the central sun, yet is in a place before form, beyond the dimensions...

Stephen hawking, has come up with a theory of white holes emitting reality; which fits what i saw in my NDE. ;)
 

The_Fisher_King

Trying to bring myself ever closer to Allah
Premium Member
My question is : what role do Jesus and Mary play (and have played) in this vision?

Now that is an interesting question, Yeshua presents qualities of Øneness within his teachings; seems to have a firm grasp of the way it exists, so would say he has first hand experience of Heaven.

How do you view the Prophets of the 'Old Testament'? What role do/did they play?
 

1137

Here until I storm off again
Premium Member
Yeah, why wrote the OP... It is beyond the dimensions, in a realm of pure consciousness; where pure energy from the CPU needs no form, as it is all things.

It is like the central sun, yet is in a place before form, beyond the dimensions...

Stephen hawking, has come up with a theory of white holes emitting reality; which fits what i saw in my NDE. ;)

Rising from a single substance doesn't imply oneness either. For one, you and I still are not one, meaning that the One became the Many very early on, and now multiplicity exist. The other issues is rising from one substance does not eliminate there being other substances. How can the mind, for example, go against the mechanistic nature which rose out of the One and birthed us? There's still duality.
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
Rising from a single substance doesn't imply oneness either.
I've not said it did; like saying you're arguing against your own interpretation of what oneness is.
How can the mind, for example, go against the mechanistic nature which rose out of the One and birthed us?
Because within this realm, every action has an equal and opposite reaction; so though the core promotes Oneness, some of us choose to do the opposite, and seek separation.
multiplicity exist
Multiplicity is part of the beauty of everything, it is all the different understandings, all the many different forms, all living together that is Oneness.
The other issues is rising from one substance does not eliminate there being other substances.
Not in terms of what I've been putting... If we're within the Matrix, then everything is one substance within it. ;)
How do you view the Prophets of the 'Old Testament'? What role do/did they play?
Tricky question, the prophets establish a snare across time to catch out the workers of iniquity; thus eventually only Oneness will remain, yet during the process of the mother of all harlots, it has made things far worse.

Claiming all the prophets taught the Oneness (Tawheed) of God isn't necessarily true either; as the Oneness of God is unconditional love and wisdom, which clearly establishing some form of trap isn't. :innocent:
 

The_Fisher_King

Trying to bring myself ever closer to Allah
Premium Member
the prophets establish a snare across time to catch out the workers of iniquity

Is this part of a Divine Plan? Are the Prophets sent by God with this purpose? And what happens to the ensnared workers of iniquity?

thus eventually only Oneness will remain

This suggests that there is, at least now, something other than Oneness - where does this come from?

the process of the mother of all harlots,

Who/what is 'the mother of all harlots'? What is 'her' process?
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
Is this part of a Divine Plan?
It is what is prophesied in the Bible.
Are the Prophets sent by God with this purpose?
That is what the Abrahamic prophets have all stated, and were instructed, as it interlinks across time.
And what happens to the ensnared workers of iniquity?
According to the texts, they shall be removed from reality.
where does this come from?
It doesn't come from anywhere, people are both separatist and Oneness; many don't realize our ego can be satan (accuser)/devil (slanderer), and we create our own evils.
Who/what is 'the mother of all harlots'?
According to the Biblical text, it is a metaphor for the great deception, the Dajjal, the false messiah, the Anti-Christ, Armilus, the whore of Babylon, idolaters....

It isn't a single person, it is a world wide religious concept, where the people follow a lie, and thus prove themselves corrupt.
What is 'her' process?
To systematically catch all the ravenous beings among us, who would follow idolatry, accept innocent blood in exchange for righteousness, that would steal and swear falsely to claim what isn't theirs, establish who worships a God of death, not living, those who drink alcohol, those who don't recognize to be vegetarian, and those that are blatant hypocrites, etc. :innocent:
 

Pudding

Well-Known Member
Within the center of all consciousness, is a place of Øneness, some call it Heaven, some Nirvana.

It is The Source of the Matrix (A mathematical grid for things to exist within), which is the structuring of our reality.
You've making claims but provide no evidence to support your claims.

There have been scientific experiments showing, that a hive mind between us, can effect machines set on random.
Link for that scientific experiments?

When we within ourselves realize that we are part of Oneness, that the Divine is within us, we can become infused with its qualities, as all logic flows from it.

Now to be precise The Core is in a place beyond unconditional love, and then wisdom, once we've gone beyond all the dimensions of the Matrix.

Some call it God/Brahman/YHVH/Allah; yet it is all names, as language stems from it.

The Dao/Dharma flows from the core of Oneness, and it makes this mathematical reality, that allows us to coexist within.

After recognizing this Oneness within, and then to truly be unconditional love, there is none attachment to self (atman), thus becoming selfless (anatta) as such, .i.e a state Nirvana or Øneness/Zero-ness.

The Core makes no point of being; yet is all things; thus in its selflessness, it achieves ultimate completeness.
Again you merely making claims but provide no evidence to support your claims.
 
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