Atheism: A non belief isn't oppositional to a belief

[Desert Snake]

If you think that your atheism is non belief, concerning a belief, then it does not inherently make your non belief, oppositional, to the belief.

 

[Shushersbedamned]

 

[WalterTrull]

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Tee Hee.

 

[Quintessence]

Seriously? Are we done with these threads yet?

 

[Cacotopia]

ugh

 

[Curious George]

If you think that your atheism is non belief, concerning a belief, then it does not inherently make your non belief, oppositional, to the belief.

It's ok. I recognize it as a belief.

But for those who try to play the "I am just negating belief," you are correct. But isn't it just semantics? Do you know any self professed atheists who actually do not believe that no god exists? If a self professed atheist did both not believe that a god exists and also did not believe that no god exists, then they would be saying it is equally likely that a god does or does not exist. That is still a belief (if you are keeping track).

The one exception falls to the group of people incapable of belief: We are left with a group of people who have no cognitive ability to believe in a god, in not a god, or the equal chance of both. Surely this group cannot oppose theism because they lack the ability to conceive of theism. Consequently, if you, or anyone, is going to define atheism so broadly that it includes things/people that cannot conceive of theism, then it is impossible for that group as a whole to oppose theism.

 

[Cacotopia]

there have been a half dozen threads made by non atheists telling atheists what atheism is, its pretty pretentious.

 

[Curious George]

there have been a half dozen threads made by non atheists telling atheists what atheism is, its pretty pretentious.

I don't think so. It is a question of critical thought, not faith. If you are capable of critical thought, then you should be capable of tackling the question what is atheism.

That said, some people are really upset/scared/disgusted by atheists. This leads to spiteful posts instead of analytical posts.

 

[Cacotopia]

Well I'm used to being talked trash to/threatened and have death threats due to my lack of belief it's nothing new.

It happens enough that it's behavior I expect to happen.

Both online and in my everyday life.

 

[Cacotopia]

If I think what I think my atheism is, It's not what I think it is because you are going to define it for me. No.

 

[Curious George]

Well I'm used to being talked trash to/threatened and have death threats due to my lack of belief it's nothing new.

It happens enough that it's behavior I expect to happen.

That would understandably make someone sensitive and contribute to perceiving attacks (whether they are present or not). Perhaps your keen sense picked up on something I did not. But, I think what is atheism is a pretty analytical question.

 

[Cacotopia]

That would understandably make someone sensitive and contribute to perceiving attacks (whether they are present or not). Perhaps your keen sense picked up on something I did not. But, I think what is atheism is a pretty analytical question.

I'm damaged goods I guess.

 

[Curious George]

If I think what I think my atheism is, It's not what I think it is because you are going to define it for me. No.

I am pretty sure no one is forcing you to think atheism is x, y or z. However , if you do think atheism is x, y, or z and it is internally inconsistent their challenges might bring about some cognitive dissonance which may feel uncomfortable.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

If you think that your atheism is non belief, concerning a belief, then it does not inherently make your non belief, oppositional, to the belief.

Is there something much deeper than atheist definitions?

Its like fussing over the word A- as in amoral or asexual; yet, we wont fuss over that.

We know what moral and sexual is....religion doesnt change English grammar rules for prefix and sufixes

Anything more deeper than the word itself in your OP?

 

[icehorse]

If you think that your atheism is non belief, concerning a belief, then it does not inherently make your non belief, oppositional, to the belief.

Maybe there is some subtly I'm missing here, but as an atheist I would say that I disagree with those who claim there is a god. I guess that that disagreement, on that one point, could be called "oppositional", so... ?

 

[PureX]

There is no such phenomena as "non-belief".

 

[Shushersbedamned]

I don't think belief has an opposite. Which pretty much does away with the OP post. As far as I can see.

 

[PureX]

I don't think belief has an opposite. Which pretty much does away with the OP post. As far as I can see.

Yes, it's the equivalent of "non-being". It's redundant irrelevance.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

If you think that your atheism is non belief, concerning a belief, then it does not inherently make your non belief, oppositional, to the belief.

Why do so many theists here have a mental roadblock about the difference between atheism and atheists?

Atheism doesn't require opinions on gods. Individual atheists may very well have opinions on gods.

There's nothing about atheism that requires an atheist to have two nostrils, but I would bet you good money that every atheist you'll ever meet will have two nostrils.

Do you understand the distinction?

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

There is no such phenomena as "non-belief".

Yet we can still divide people into the MECE categories "people who believe in ______" and "everyone else."