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Atheism and Secularism are the future
- Thread starter Estro Felino
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Religion can sometimes be the direct cause of individual specific incidents.
But I don't think you mean to say that religion causes police brutality, as if to say non-religious police never commit brutality.
Yeah. Plus, war is usually about money and power at the root of it. Any religious excuse is usually just the dressing to dupe the masses. It's just greed at the end of the day.
That's exactly what I meant. Man is reaching a very high level of awareness.
The second step will be the triumph of all anthropocentric religion.
Once that Theocentrism disappears...atheism will spread as inevitable consequence.
Sees
Dragonslayer
I think theism will continue to evolve as it always has, secularism will dominate society and government out of necessity. One man's theism is another's atheism and vice versa...religion isn't just a static set of metaphysical beliefs like it has been progressively made out to be. Theology of young Sunday School children being held by adults, real or strawmen, will carry on towards extinction.
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I doubt religion will disappear. Certainly a long, long time in the future if it does. And that's fine. If we can remove religion from state institutions, and theology itself develops in sophistication (across the board) then I'd be satisfied.
Bunyip
pro scapegoat
Sure, I also see it as inevitable.
Just as people used to think that the earth was flat, and our religious leaders tried to suppress the truth. Over the years people just grew to accept that the earth was a sphere, no matter what the church told them. I believe that believing in some sort of metaphysical father figure will simply fade out.
Who actually believed that the Earth was flat? I see this bandied about a lot, but seriously? Where was this big conspiracy to force everyone to believe that the Earth was flat? Evidence please.
Bunyip
pro scapegoat
Who actually believed that the Earth was flat? I see this bandied about a lot, but seriously? Where was this big conspiracy to force everyone to believe that the Earth was flat? Evidence please.
Sure, look up the Catholic Churche's apology to Galilleo.
That had to do with heliocentrism, not a flat Earth.
Bunyip
pro scapegoat
Both fit my argument well. Heliocentrism and the flat earth are the ancient beliefs that the church attempted to preserve and failed.
Diodorus of Tarsus, Severan Bishop of Gabala, Cosmas Indicopleustes, St John Chrisoston, St Athanasius. All examples of Christian apologists resisting the spherical view of the earth that had been more popular in Greece centuries earlier on theological grounds.
illykitty
RF's pet cat
Why, exactly?
Maybe some older beliefs will morph, there's modern movements within many religions. There's new religions. There's ones based on more concrete things like nature, the universe and so on. There's atheist religions too.
I don't see why religions wouldn't continue but be relevant to the understanding of the universe and so on. At the very least, I don't see spirituality disappearing.
Maybe some older beliefs will morph, there's modern movements within many religions. There's new religions. There's ones based on more concrete things like nature, the universe and so on. There's atheist religions too.
I don't see why religions wouldn't continue but be relevant to the understanding of the universe and so on. At the very least, I don't see spirituality disappearing.
The only two I've heard of are St. John Chrysostom and St. Athanasius and I've never heard anything about them talking about a flat Earth.
I see no evidence for a campaign of the Church to promote a flat Earth.
I have this feeling that Atheism will spread faster in the Catholic world.
This is an interesting testimony of a ex Catholic actress, who is now an Agnostic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcJykfk6zOE
This is an interesting testimony of a ex Catholic actress, who is now an Agnostic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcJykfk6zOE
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Hidden? I thought we were rather blatant about our preference.Hinduism♥Krishna;3916349 said:Secularism is a hidden aspect of Atheism ...
But I also know many believers, even fundies, who favor secularism
because it also ensures their own religious freedom.
Even in a secular society and world, I don't think humans will ever shake that feeling like we are being watched. Watched by the government, aliens, spirits and a whole host of other things we can come up with.
The consequences depend on where we take the knowledge that we gain. Being correct doesn't mean things will get better.
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
We've always had, and will always have, both magically-minded and skeptically-minded people. Also, religion is largely a structure of social acceptance and compliance, and most people will always have a strong drive for these things.
...Or atheism of secularism.
As is, truth be told, atheism in relation to competing understandings of the nature and autenthicity of deities an implicit feature of most if not all forms of theism.
For some unfathomable reason, that still results in odd prejudices and fears against full atheists. To the best of my understanding it is the idea of atheism itself that puts some people ill at ease, perhaps because they have a need to believe that others share beliefs at least somewhat similar to their own; our daring to state outright that we do not may be perceived (quite unfairly, I must add) as disrespectful and even hostile.