Bunyip
pro scapegoat
I am just asking how atheism could possibly qualify as an ideology, or have dogma?
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Atheism and Secularism are the future
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I am just asking how atheism could possibly qualify as an ideology, or have dogma?
Bunyip
pro scapegoat
Great point. And yes, 'atheism' is a great example.
psychoslice
Veteran Member
Because it means everything to you, doesn't it ?.
Looncall
Well-Known Member
Is this just the usual moaning over the loss of unearned privilige by the religious?
Bunyip
pro scapegoat
No. I am just curious about your comment. How could atheism have dogma, or qualify as an ideology?
It is an honest question.
psychoslice
Veteran Member
Simply because it does, you might think it doesn't, and that's part of your belief system if you like it or not.
Bunyip
pro scapegoat
How so? Atheism is just my position on the question of theistic belief, not an ideology. How can my not being a theist have dogma or be an ideology?
psychoslice
Veteran Member
Can you drop your atheist belief, and be happy, or do you need it ?.
I understand that defining atheism objectively is very hard.
My vision of Christianity is very anthropocentric, and still I believe in God, so I cannot consider myself as an atheist, because I certainly am not.
But when I talk to Catholics about my vision of God, they immediately accuse me of being an atheist.
My vision of Christianity is very anthropocentric, and still I believe in God, so I cannot consider myself as an atheist, because I certainly am not.
But when I talk to Catholics about my vision of God, they immediately accuse me of being an atheist.
psychoslice
Veteran Member
Yea, I get that also, I just take it as a joke.
Bunyip
pro scapegoat
Well it is not a belief, but sure. I could happily stop being atheist. What is your point?
psychoslice
Veteran Member
My point is if you believe it or not, is that you are dedicated to your belief as an atheists as much as a religious person is dedicated to his belief, then that's all it is, a belief, you are no different..
You really don't understand the first thing about atheism.
Dirty Penguin
Master Of Ceremony
I never understood that charge from people...As an atheist I simply don't believe.....There's no dogma, no cult, no book...That charge has always given me a chuckle.
outhouse
Atheistically
What part of me knowing exactly how gods were created by men and as such, there is nothing to believe in, don't you understand?
Im not dedicated to anything other then education and knowledge.
Its not belief, it is knowledge, big difference.
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
Atheism and Secularism are the future
Secularism - political worldly governing system, yes, if it really provides equitable justice system without bias of religion/no religion, race and color.
Atheism- neither had a past nor future.
Regards
Secularism - political worldly governing system, yes, if it really provides equitable justice system without bias of religion/no religion, race and color.
Atheism- neither had a past nor future.
Regards
There's knowing to believe in. There's the knowing exactly how gods were created by men and as such to believe in.
Belief is inherent of knowledge: knowledge is justified belief. The statement, "I know it but I don't believe it," is nonsensical.
Bunyip
pro scapegoat
You are not making sense, atheism is not a belief. It is the absence of a belief in a theistic god.
Dirty Penguin
Master Of Ceremony
Maybe (If I may) I got what he means. I agree with you when you say that Atheism implies the absence of God..so the denial of God's existence.
But he probably means that Atheists do believe in something: they believe in man and in his potentialities. Let's not forget that there are 2 kinds of Atheists:
the first ones are optimistic about the future because they know that man is powerful and can become good. the second ones are pessimistic and don't trust human nature.