Atheist here.

[ak.yonathan]

YEC accuse all mainstream scientists of making up evidence all the time. There's just so much more evidence you need to ignore to believe in YEC than they can ever hope to create. Although incomplete read through this:

https://www.lpl.arizona.edu/~matthewt/yeclaimsbeta.html

The article in the link you gave doesn't really address the points in the article that I gave. It refutes arguments that aren't brought up in my article at all.

 

[Jumi]

The article in the link you gave doesn't really address the points in the article that I gave. It refutes arguments that aren't brought up in my article at all.

See that's the thing. It doesn't need to. Rather for YEC to be true they would need to disprove sciences so vast that no one is willing to even start. Until they try, what use is there in disproving weak claims, if YEC believers can't disprove stronger ones.

Think about this. There are mountains of evidence that the world is older than 6000 years including human civilization discovered by archaeologists. How can Jericho be 6800 years old if the world is 6000 years old... Damascus and Aleppo are places inhabited more than 6000 years. Though evidence of that may soon be destroyed by ISIL to hide the truth.

 

[ak.yonathan]

See that's the thing. It doesn't need to. Rather for YEC to be true they would need to disprove sciences so vast that no one is willing to even start. Until they try, what use is there in disproving weak claims, if YEC believers can't disprove stronger ones.

Think about this. There are mountains of evidence that the world is older than 6000 years including human civilization discovered by archaeologists. How can Jericho be 6800 years old if the world is 6000 years old... Damascus and Aleppo are places inhabited more than 6000 years. Though evidence of that may soon be destroyed by ISIL to hide the truth.

Bold claims, but that's all they are: claims. So what if no one is willing to disprove them, doesn't mean they're true? Just what are those sciences? And just what are those archaeological evidences that you mention? You tell me what they are, then we'll discuss them!

 

[Jumi]

Bold claims, but that's all they are: claims.

Not nearly as bold as the YEC claims.

Here is a list of sciences you need to disbelieve to believe in YEC:
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Branch..._ignore_to_believe_in_young_Earth_creationism

 

[Revoltingest]

Greetings, fellow heathen!

Join us for some sinful treats....

And there's much more where those came from!

 

[DawudTalut]

Hello.

As an atheist, I do not fear judgment from any deities because I am certain no deities exist.......
That's all.
Amen ~

Peace be on you. Welcome.....Just thinking, can anyone who thinks he/she is atheist say 'Amen'.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Peace be on you. Welcome.....Just thinking, can anyone who thinks he/she is atheist say 'Amen'.

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Amen?

 

[MrMrdevincamus]

Hello.

As an atheist, I do not fear judgment from any deities because I am certain no deities exist.

This is arrogance, you say? Well, let me explain where I'm coming from.

If you're like most religious people, you believe that your particular deity or deities have instilled you with the "gift of reason." This reason, which allows us to function in our dangerous world, ought to be used in all inquiry, including religion. If your deity gave you reason, then what danger is there in examining said deity's religion? If the religion stands up to scrutiny, then congratulations; you've used your deity-given reason to strengthen your faith. And if your reason pokes holes through your religion--and, heaven forbid, through your deity--then congratulations for this, too; you've successfully saved yourself from a life of lies.

Our reason is our candle in the dark. If reason is truly deity-given, then it should be used. And if there is no deity, then using one's reason will lead one to atheism. In other words, it is wrong to avoid reason. When reason tells you that the earth is 4.2 billion years old and the Bible tells you that it's 6,000 years old, reason will tell you that the Bible is wrong. When the Bible presents four contradictory accounts of the life of Jesus--like the differences between birth narratives, crucifixion narratives, resurrection narratives, etc.--reason will tell you that none of it is reliable.

See how simple and awesome that concept is? The best part is that this can be applied to any religion!

Now, if you've read this far, you may be wondering why I, an ardent atheist, have registered on this forum. I am not "looking for religion," nor have I been inspired/moved/possessed by your particular deity or deities to convert to your particular religion. Rather, I come here with the same interest that, say, a virologist comes to the virus; a bemused fascination coupled with a worrying fear over the existence of religion in the modern world compels me to examine this living fossil known as religion, which taxes our species and hinders progress in many areas of life.

That's all.

Amen ~

I am live and let live when it comes to others beliefs lifestyles or lack thereof. That said, we all need some way to anchor our reality, you appear to use science. I use God and other things. I seek 'truth' in all things which can not always be proven. You say YEC's are not reasonable because there is evidence that gives good reason to think the earth is a few billion give or take instead of their claim of the earth being around 5k years + or -. However, the same 'science that employed the same scientific method that tells us the earth and universe is billions of years old was just as convinced for over forty years that Piltdown man existed and thrived. Was that a reasonable claim? So science is not infallible, in fact by its own criteria it can not be. Personally I like to use all information including science etc to from my opinion of what is true and what is less than truth. The astonishing thing is almost every materialistic thing devoid of truth or at least the ability to prove it's 'true' or maybe 'real' would be a better word. What material thing is real ? Two minds have two different conclusions about any material object. Only God is truth. if God does not exist truth doesn't exist. Hint; Truth exists and is real. Welcome to the forum Ardent Atheist.

 

[jeager106]

Welcome aboard. Or just be bored.
I find atheists totally uninteresting but welcome anyway.

 

[Guy Threepwood]

Hello.

As an atheist, I do not fear judgment from any deities because I am certain no deities exist.

This is arrogance, you say? Well, let me explain where I'm coming from.

If you're like most religious people, you believe that your particular deity or deities have instilled you with the "gift of reason." This reason, which allows us to function in our dangerous world, ought to be used in all inquiry, including religion. If your deity gave you reason, then what danger is there in examining said deity's religion? If the religion stands up to scrutiny, then congratulations; you've used your deity-given reason to strengthen your faith. And if your reason pokes holes through your religion--and, heaven forbid, through your deity--then congratulations for this, too; you've successfully saved yourself from a life of lies.

Our reason is our candle in the dark. If reason is truly deity-given, then it should be used. And if there is no deity, then using one's reason will lead one to atheism. In other words, it is wrong to avoid reason. When reason tells you that the earth is 4.2 billion years old and the Bible tells you that it's 6,000 years old, reason will tell you that the Bible is wrong. When the Bible presents four contradictory accounts of the life of Jesus--like the differences between birth narratives, crucifixion narratives, resurrection narratives, etc.--reason will tell you that none of it is reliable.

See how simple and awesome that concept is? The best part is that this can be applied to any religion!

Now, if you've read this far, you may be wondering why I, an ardent atheist, have registered on this forum. I am not "looking for religion," nor have I been inspired/moved/possessed by your particular deity or deities to convert to your particular religion. Rather, I come here with the same interest that, say, a virologist comes to the virus; a bemused fascination coupled with a worrying fear over the existence of religion in the modern world compels me to examine this living fossil known as religion, which taxes our species and hinders progress in many areas of life.

That's all.

Amen ~

I agree with much of that, we are given free will to be right or wrong, reason for ourselves. We all believe in something, but it's always easier to critique others' beliefs rather than our own.

I think this is why it took me so long to become skeptical of the atheism I was brought up to accept as a default truth.

We all have beliefs, and if we are to use reason to seek the truth, we have to acknowledge our own beliefs as such.

 

[Knight of Albion]

A very warm welcome to the forum, dear soul

 

[Pastek]

Welcome !