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Atheist here.

Hello.

As an atheist, I do not fear judgment from any deities because I am certain no deities exist.

This is arrogance, you say? Well, let me explain where I'm coming from.

If you're like most religious people, you believe that your particular deity or deities have instilled you with the "gift of reason." This reason, which allows us to function in our dangerous world, ought to be used in all inquiry, including religion. If your deity gave you reason, then what danger is there in examining said deity's religion? If the religion stands up to scrutiny, then congratulations; you've used your deity-given reason to strengthen your faith. And if your reason pokes holes through your religion--and, heaven forbid, through your deity--then congratulations for this, too; you've successfully saved yourself from a life of lies.

Our reason is our candle in the dark. If reason is truly deity-given, then it should be used. And if there is no deity, then using one's reason will lead one to atheism. In other words, it is wrong to avoid reason. When reason tells you that the earth is 4.2 billion years old and the Bible tells you that it's 6,000 years old, reason will tell you that the Bible is wrong. When the Bible presents four contradictory accounts of the life of Jesus--like the differences between birth narratives, crucifixion narratives, resurrection narratives, etc.--reason will tell you that none of it is reliable.

See how simple and awesome that concept is? The best part is that this can be applied to any religion!

Now, if you've read this far, you may be wondering why I, an ardent atheist, have registered on this forum. I am not "looking for religion," nor have I been inspired/moved/possessed by your particular deity or deities to convert to your particular religion. Rather, I come here with the same interest that, say, a virologist comes to the virus; a bemused fascination coupled with a worrying fear over the existence of religion in the modern world compels me to examine this living fossil known as religion, which taxes our species and hinders progress in many areas of life.

That's all.

Amen ~
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
Hmm. Well. Possibly one of the more pejorative introduction threads I've read in a while.

Welcome, nevertheless. I'd recommend adjusting the attitude a bit, though, and remembering not to conflate (a)theism with (ir)religion.
 

Laika

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
hey ardent atheist, welcome to Religiousforums.com (or "RF). We are an open and diverse community with members from many different belief systems. I hope you will be pleasantly surprised that this includes not only religious believers but also a large community of atheists who are frequently active in debates on the main forums. we are also able to discuss specific subjects of interest in the Atheist DIR. I hope this will be of some interest and look forward to debating subjects with you in the future.
 

sayak83

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Hello.

As an atheist, I do not fear judgment from any deities because I am certain no deities exist.

This is arrogance, you say? Well, let me explain where I'm coming from.

If you're like most religious people, you believe that your particular deity or deities have instilled you with the "gift of reason." This reason, which allows us to function in our dangerous world, ought to be used in all inquiry, including religion. If your deity gave you reason, then what danger is there in examining said deity's religion? If the religion stands up to scrutiny, then congratulations; you've used your deity-given reason to strengthen your faith. And if your reason pokes holes through your religion--and, heaven forbid, through your deity--then congratulations for this, too; you've successfully saved yourself from a life of lies.

Our reason is our candle in the dark. If reason is truly deity-given, then it should be used. And if there is no deity, then using one's reason will lead one to atheism. In other words, it is wrong to avoid reason. When reason tells you that the earth is 4.2 billion years old and the Bible tells you that it's 6,000 years old, reason will tell you that the Bible is wrong. When the Bible presents four contradictory accounts of the life of Jesus--like the differences between birth narratives, crucifixion narratives, resurrection narratives, etc.--reason will tell you that none of it is reliable.

See how simple and awesome that concept is? The best part is that this can be applied to any religion!

Now, if you've read this far, you may be wondering why I, an ardent atheist, have registered on this forum. I am not "looking for religion," nor have I been inspired/moved/possessed by your particular deity or deities to convert to your particular religion. Rather, I come here with the same interest that, say, a virologist comes to the virus; a bemused fascination coupled with a worrying fear over the existence of religion in the modern world compels me to examine this living fossil known as religion, which taxes our species and hinders progress in many areas of life.

That's all.

Amen ~
Welcome to the thread. I am a secular person, which means that I believe that no worldview should get preferential treatment in the public square or in the government. I myself lean towards more sceptical/analytical/reason-based traditions within Hinduism and Buddhism. I have had some experience talking to diverse strands of beliefs and non-beliefs and do not think that the situation here is at all as clear cut as either new atheists or conservative Christians/Muslims/Hindus try to make it out to be. So, while you are busy debating conservative theists from the other side of the divide, let me offer you an open invitation to discuss/debate any of the three religions below about which I know quite a lot.
1) Hinduism:- my native tradition
2) Buddhism:- I have practiced and read a lot.
3) Christianity:- Never practiced, but read and discussed with a lot of my good Christian friends.

On the way we can discuss as much science and/or philosophy as you like.

Also please notify me if you want a discussion as otherwise I might overlook it.

Enjoy your stay. :)
 

Smart_Guy

...
Premium Member
Hello.

As an atheist, I do not fear judgment from any deities because I am certain no deities exist.

This is arrogance, you say? Well, let me explain where I'm coming from.

If you're like most religious people, you believe that your particular deity or deities have instilled you with the "gift of reason." This reason, which allows us to function in our dangerous world, ought to be used in all inquiry, including religion. If your deity gave you reason, then what danger is there in examining said deity's religion? If the religion stands up to scrutiny, then congratulations; you've used your deity-given reason to strengthen your faith. And if your reason pokes holes through your religion--and, heaven forbid, through your deity--then congratulations for this, too; you've successfully saved yourself from a life of lies.

Our reason is our candle in the dark. If reason is truly deity-given, then it should be used. And if there is no deity, then using one's reason will lead one to atheism. In other words, it is wrong to avoid reason. When reason tells you that the earth is 4.2 billion years old and the Bible tells you that it's 6,000 years old, reason will tell you that the Bible is wrong. When the Bible presents four contradictory accounts of the life of Jesus--like the differences between birth narratives, crucifixion narratives, resurrection narratives, etc.--reason will tell you that none of it is reliable.

See how simple and awesome that concept is? The best part is that this can be applied to any religion!

Now, if you've read this far, you may be wondering why I, an ardent atheist, have registered on this forum. I am not "looking for religion," nor have I been inspired/moved/possessed by your particular deity or deities to convert to your particular religion. Rather, I come here with the same interest that, say, a virologist comes to the virus; a bemused fascination coupled with a worrying fear over the existence of religion in the modern world compels me to examine this living fossil known as religion, which taxes our species and hinders progress in many areas of life.

That's all.

Amen ~

Welcome aboard :D

Let me tell you where I'm coming from. I'm coming from the land of Hijaz ;)
 

Corthos

Great Old One
Ushta, and welcome! =)

I have a feeling you will have some very interesting things to say...
 

ak.yonathan

Active Member
To be YEC, they need to ignore more evidence than they can ever make up. It's not that easy for them.
You can't just accuse people of making up evidence. So, what you're saying is that you can provide a refutation for the arguments there? Well then, show it!
 
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