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Atheists are Smarter?

dave_

Active Member
Edit:This studies are done on abrahamic religions so other people shouldn't be concerned.I have a fear of abrahamic god and this is a part of my effort to prove abrahamic god deosn't exist to punish me.

First let me say i think this studies aren't done on buddhist or hindu countries (which is my religion :D) Also I don't call anyone stupid or anyting.I am just posting this article.

Source : Atheists 'have higher IQs': Their intelligence 'makes them more likely to dismiss religion as irrational and unscientific' | Daily Mail Online

Atheists 'have higher IQs': Their intelligence 'makes them more likely to dismiss religion as irrational and unscientific'
Research found those with higher IQs more likely to dismiss religion
Another drawback to being religious, or at least Christian is losing out on top jobs


Atheists tend to be more intelligent than religious people, according to a US study.
Researchers found that those with high IQs had greater self-control and were able to do more for themselves - so did not need the benefits that religion provides.
They also have better self esteem and built more supportive relationships, the study authors said.

The conclusions were the result of a review of 63 scientific studies about religion and intelligence dating between 1928 and last year.
In 53 of these there was a ‘reliable negative relation between intelligence and religiosity’.
In just 10 was that relationship positive.


Even among children, the more intelligent a child was the more probable it was that they would shun the church.
In old age the same trend persisted as well, the research showed.
The University of Rochester psychologists behind the study defined religion as involvement in some or all parts of a belief.
They defined intelligence as the ‘ability to reason, plan, solve problems, think abstractly, comprehend complex ideas, learn quickly, and learn from experience’.
In their conclusions, they said: ‘Most extant explanations (of a negative relation) share one central theme - the premise that religious beliefs are irrational, not anchored in science, not testable and, therefore, unappealing to intelligent people who ‘know better’.
‘Intelligent people typically spend more time in school - a form of self-regulation that may yield long-term benefits.
‘More intelligent people getting higher level jobs and better employment and higher salary may lead to higher self-esteem, and encourage personal control beliefs.’
Study co-author Jordan Silberman, a graduate student of neuroeconomics at the University of Rochester, said: ‘Intelligence may lead to greater self-control ability, self-esteem, perceived control over life events, and supportive relationships, obviating some of the benefits that religion sometimes provides.’

Research from the UK last week showed another drawback to being religious, or at least Christian - you lose out in the race for top jobs.
Official figures show nearly one in four people who have no religious belief now live in homes headed by someone with a senior executive job or a place in one of the professions.
But well under a fifth of Christians are employed in the best-paid and most influential jobs or are married to someone who is, according to the Office for National Statistics (ONS).
The last census, carried out in March 2011, showed a fall in the number of people that call themselves Christian in the UK.
Christian numbers in England and Wales, including children, fell by 4.1 million in a decade to 33.2 million.
However there was a 45 per cent rise over the same 10 years in numbers who say they have no religion, to 14.1 million.
 
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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
While it's true that we have higher IQs (my own is near 70),
we know this can be intimidating, so many of us purposely
make bone headed posts just so we'll appear flawed, &
therefore friendlier, less threatening, & more accessible.
 
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bobhikes

Nondetermined
Premium Member
Smarter based on a human standard that measures only a part of what human intelligence is. OK!:facepalm:
 

dave_

Active Member
Another example of why IQ tests are near worthless.

Edit:This studies are done on abrahamic religions so other people shouldn't be concerned.I have a fear of abrahamic god and this is a part of my effort to prove abrahamic god deosn't exist to punish me.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
I know many atheist that do not have high IQ's that I would not call even bright.

Now the study does have merit though, because religion leaves open the possibility to close ones mind, and or promote fanaticism retarding ones ability to see reality clearly.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
I wonder if you would find quite the same difference between atheists and Christians if you excluded Christian creationists from your study? Perhaps, the gap would then be closed?
 

George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
Most people are nominally brought up in the religion of their family's history. More intelligent people are more questioning and challenging of official positions. Hence I think you will find higher intelligence in the atheists than in the traditional theists. I also think you will find quite a bit higher intelligence in people who move from Abrahamic to Dharmic thought.
 
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Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
I wonder if you would find quite the same difference between atheists and Christians if you excluded Christian creationists from your study? Perhaps, the gap would then be closed?

That's a fair point. There are plenty of highly intelligent religious people.
 

George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
I know many atheist that do not have high IQ's that I would not call even bright.

Outhouse, you don't realize what a setup you just gave us:D

But my highly intelligent Dharmic nature precludes me from seizing the moment.
 
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Monk Of Reason

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Edit:This studies are done on abrahamic religions so other people shouldn't be concerned.I have a fear of abrahamic god and this is a part of my effort to prove abrahamic god deosn't exist to punish me.

First let me say i think this studies aren't done on buddhist or hindu countries (which is my religion :D) Also I don't call anyone stupid or anyting.I am just posting this article.

Source : Atheists 'have higher IQs': Their intelligence 'makes them more likely to dismiss religion as irrational and unscientific' | Daily Mail Online

The overall average IQ is higher for Atheists than Theists but the problem with this is that it doesn't actually accurately reflect any meaningful descriptions of someone who is an atheist or theist. Largely it is irrelevant.

Being an atheist doesn't make you smarter. Being a theist doesn't make you any less so. However it seems there is a trend that the more educated you are and the higher you are on the measurable scales of intelligence you are less likely to be religious. This may be an important factor but I would wager the majority of atheists are not atheist because of their intellect.
 

amorphous_constellation

Well-Known Member
I read once that as you get into the really high iqs that people once again start believing in God. Kind of disconcerting, along with the fact that many of them seem to strictly study mathematics and space when the world is in need of brains for many other things at this point in time.
 

Sees

Dragonslayer
I read once that as you get into the really high iqs that people once again start believing in God. Kind of disconcerting, along with the fact that many of them seem to strictly study mathematics and space when the world is in need of brains for many other things at this point in time.

If it were true, I'm not sure why it would be disconcerting. There could be a tendency for the folks with very high IQs to favor the color blue and it would matter about the same for everybody else.
 

George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
I read once that as you get into the really high iqs that people once again start believing in God. Kind of disconcerting,

what is 'disconcerting' about that?

There is a lot of room for high IQ people in-between hard atheism and Fundamenatalist Christianity you know.
 
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`mud

Just old
Premium Member
Are high IQ's better than being moronic ?
What the hell does anyone know about another's beleif in any 'gods', regardless of their IQ !
I love that expression: "I read once", or like: "I was told once", I: "I had a dream once", or I: "stubbed my toe once", and so on &.....
What is IQ to an uneducated person, maybe one grew up in the woods, I have cousins like that, can't barely tie their shoe laces.
Or the insane person that lives in an insane asylum that see's a guy changing his flat tire.
He was just about ready to get the nuts out the hubcap when he tripped and kicked the hubcap and spilled the nuts into the adjoinig storm drain.
He stated cussing and stomping and stuff and was having a fit. The nutso watched him a while then asked him what was the matter ?
Well the guy got irrate with the nutcase and proceeded to tell the nutcase where to get off. After the ****** off guy cooled off, the nutcase asked the ****** off guy, why don't you take one nut off each one of the other three tires and mount your tire with those ?
That should get you to the garage safely, I made be insane but I'm not stupid !
It has nothing to do with the IQ, only the ability to learn.
~
I bet you heard that one, didn't you ? Sorry about that, but I'm kinda stupid, but my IQ is pretty high.
~
'mud
 
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