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Atheists: If God existed would God……

CG Didymus

CG Didymus

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Evangelicalhumanist said:
Oh, that one! Why are we ignoring all the other ones?
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And does saying it is the creator god help? It's still which one.
The Greek Creation Myth was developed and started with Chaos, who took the role of the first god, and provided a mythical and religious explanation of the nature and genesis of the universe.

Ra is the god of gods of ancient Egypt: according to Egyptian mythology, he is the creator of the Universe and all the divine or mortal life forms that inhabit it.

Hinduism, originally known as Sanatana Dharma is a pantheistic religion as it equates God with the universe. Brahma (the creator) is the first member of Hindu trinity (three Gods) consisting of Lord Vishnu (the preserver) being the second and Lord Shiva (the destroyer/transformer) being the third.

While there are many Chinese wondrous deities, there’s none but one Chinese god portrayed to create the earth but Pan Gu. Also known as P’an Ku or Pangu, he is given the title as the god of creation and the first man. He is as well a central figure for the Taoist teaching

Ometeotl was the Aztecs’ original creator deity, composed of husband Ometecuhtli and wife Omecihautl. After creating themselves and four of the most powerful gods of the pantheon, they left to reside in the highest heaven.

The most important gods of the Polynesian pantheon were those associated with creation myths and legends. Best known were Rangi (Father Sky) and Papa (Mother Earth), the two supreme creator gods of the Maori people of New Zealand. According to Maori legend, Rangi and Papa served as the source from which all things came.

Towards the end of the Babylonian captivity, the very existence of foreign gods was denied, and Yahweh was proclaimed as the creator of the cosmos and the one true God of all the world...
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It's too easy for Baha'is to just generalize things and call it good. Like saying, "Oh, you know, God, the real one... the one that created everything" is supposed to clear things up.
 
Trailblazer

Trailblazer

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Policy said:
Throughout high school and college I did a lot of textual criticism, which included the criticisms of characters and their motives within the context of the story presented. By your reasoning, every time I (or anyone else) criticizes a literary character in a dialogue we are claiming that entity actually exists. That's just silly.
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To compare God to a literary character in a dialogue is the fallacy of false equivalence since God is not equivalent to a character since characters in stories are human beings.
 
John53

John53

I go leaps and bounds
Premium Member
Trailblazer said:
To compare God to a literary character in a dialogue is the fallacy of false equivalence since God is not equivalent to a character since characters in stories are human beings.
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I'm beginning to think you deliberately misunderstand posts in an attempt to frustrate people.
 
ppp

ppp

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Trailblazer said:
It is absolutely true. God is not a human being in a novel so God cannot be a character.
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Yeah, yeah. You get backed into a corner, and rather than simply acknowledging that you are wrong, you bail using the optimistic icon as thin cover for your retreat,

Your god is a literary character that appears in stories. Just like all of the other gods that people have claimed to exist. Not to mention the various jinn, angels, sprit forms, sprites, animals, stuffed toys, disembodied energy, beings, Horta, Tulpa, cryptids, cyberforms, dwellings, planets, stars, cthuloids, pimples, emotions, and emoticons.
 
CG Didymus

CG Didymus

Veteran Member
John53 said:
I'm beginning to think you deliberately misunderstand posts in an attempt to frustrate people.
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But the OP asks, "Atheists: If God existed would God……" So, atheists, if God existed would you blame him for creating a world with so much pain and suffering? Or... would you think, "Yes, if God existed this crazy world is exactly what I expect from a God that is supposed to be all-loving and all-knowing." Why would anyone think that? But maybe this is what the God of the Baha'is would do, but it sure isn't what I'd expect.
 
John53

John53

I go leaps and bounds
Premium Member
CG Didymus said:
But the OP asks, "Atheists: If God existed would God……" So, atheists, if God existed would you blame him for creating a world with so much pain and suffering? Or... would you think, "Yes, if God existed this crazy world is exactly what I expect from a God that is supposed to be all-loving and all-knowing." Why would anyone think that? But maybe this is what the God of the Baha'is would do, but it sure isn't what I'd expect.
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From now on I'll probably just respond, "I don't believe any God exists".
 
samtonga43

samtonga43

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Trailblazer said:
Why does that frustrate you so much?
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If you re-read, you'll find that john53 says that he thinks you may deliberately misunderstand posts in an attempt to frustrate people. This does not mean that any of us are actually frustrated. Logic 101

But I don't think you are attempting to frustrate people. I accepted long ago that many of your posts are irrational. When this is pointed out to you, you simply pile on the irrationality and the knots. Sounds like you have done a course in logic, and now you are using what you think is 'logic' at the expense of understanding and meaning. I and others have tried to show you this, but to no avail.

You may come to see for yourself. I hope you do.
 
John53

John53

I go leaps and bounds
Premium Member
samtonga43 said:
If you re-read, you'll find that john53 says that he thinks you may deliberately misunderstand posts in an attempt to frustrate people. This does not mean that any of us are actually frustrated. Logic 101
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Thanks for that. Sometimes I question if it's what I posted but other people don't seem to have a problem.
 
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