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Atheists: If God existed would God……

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
You have a desire to convince yourself regardless. Why the need to convince yourself? Do these beliefs sooth your worried mind?
No, I did not have a desire to convince myself, I BECAME convinced by the evidence.
Knowing God has my back helps but I am still a worrier.
 

ppp

Well-Known Member
Like I said before, God sends Messengers, that is one thing He does.
Still no explanation of use.

God also rules and maintains the universe but He does not come barreling down from His Throne of Glory to clean up the messes humans make in this world.
The universe acts like a big dumb object. Bless its heart. I don't see any use for God there. Can we fire him? Is it a union job?
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
Stupid question .. G-d created everything, and we all have to die and return to Him.
Is this why God creates some children with genetic defects that cause cancers, so the child can return to God sooner than the usual lifespan?

That includes you, Presidents, and of course .. me. :)
Then why are some healthy and live long lives while others die young due to natural diseases? Is God impatient to see some return to him? Explain.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
Including the mature mind that understands the flaws of faith and the advantage of reason.
You mean the atheist mind. Why not just come out and say it?
Why do you have to drive a wedge between atheists and believers?
Why do you have to pridefully believe you are smarter than us?
Faith can reason can coexist. There is nothing immature about that.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
I cannot be succeeding at something I am not trying to do, that is illogical.
Your success is in not convincing others (which is your intent), despite your thousands of comments and claims.

If you were trying to convince others with your thousands of comments and claims, then you would be a failure.

What is odd is why you keep posting claims if you have no interest in convincing others you are correct.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
You mean the atheist mind. Why not just come out and say it?
Why do you have to drive a wedge between atheists and believers?
Why do you have to pridefully believe you are smarter than us?
Faith can reason can coexist. There is nothing immature about that.
Faith is unreliable. Acknowledging this means avoiding faith. By avoiding faith a person must rely on reason. A reasonable mind will acknowledge there is no factual basis for any religious claims, and none can be judged true and believable. The net result is a person being non-theist.

Of course the biology of belief is largely genetic, and what motivates about 85% of humans to be religious in non-rational, and is social and cultural. People are wired to believe, and they adopt the behaviors of those around them in their social experience. This is why most people are religious, they adopt and mimic religious behaviors. This occurs mostly in the subconscious mind, so the believer is not consciously aware. So the believe will have all sorts of mysteries about why they believe at all, and only be aware they want and need to believe in something.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
Your success is in not convincing others (which is your intent), despite your thousands of comments and claims.
I just love how you speak for me as if you know my intent. That is arrogant.
If you were trying to convince others with your thousands of comments and claims, then you would be a failure.
But I am not trying to convince anyone. I firmly believe in free will and the right to choose.
What is odd is why you keep posting claims if you have no interest in convincing others you are correct.
There is nothing odd about it. I am just responding to posts I receive.

Why do certain people have an obsession with me and what I am doing? I am not that intereting, really.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
I think you are conflicted and in a complex bubble of denial.
Funny thing, no counselors I have ever been to think that. They think I m so self-aware that I don't even need counseling. They have said that for years.
My problem is what I cannot deny, not what I deny.

Where did you get your MA in psychology? I got mine from Chapman University.
 

ppp

Well-Known Member
Funny thing, no counselors I have ever been to think that. They think I m so self-aware that I don't even need counseling. They have said that for years.
My problem is what I cannot deny, not what I deny.

Where did you get your MA in psychology? I got mine from Chapman University.
It does seem like you are two or three different people sometimes.

Are multiple people using the Trailblazer account?
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
Faith is unreliable. Acknowledging this means avoiding faith. By avoiding faith a person must rely on reason.
People have faith in many things that cannot be proven every day, not just in God.
Reason and faith can coexist. To say otherwise is the fallacy of black and white thinking - either faith or reason. That is illogical.
 
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