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Awe and Wonder

JustGeorge

Imperfect
Staff member
Premium Member
IMHO, "romantic love" is simply infatuation, what we call chemistry. It's when an attraction hijacks normal thought, obsesses about the person, and idealizes them. It makes for wonderful movies, but in real life it never lasts. To have an abiding love, a person must nurture it by caring for the other. Love is waking up in the morning and thinking, "What can I do today that will make their life a little nicer."
I think this is how it often is, but a person can have a deep love for another person, I think, that they'd like to be romantic with, know it will never come to that, and... still think "what can I do today that will make their life a little nicer".

Perhaps it would damage their family, the other person's family, or the person simply isn't receptive. To still ponder on how they can make the person's life better qualifies as love to me. And it still, I'm sure, hurts.
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
I think this is how it often is, but a person can have a deep love for another person, I think, that they'd like to be romantic with, know it will never come to that, and... still think "what can I do today that will make their life a little nicer".

Perhaps it would damage their family, the other person's family, or the person simply isn't receptive. To still ponder on how they can make the person's life better qualifies as love to me. And it still, I'm sure, hurts.

I agree with you. We can't get through life without hurt. It's the price of real love. A book I read back when I was a teen said, "Love rarely reaches out, except that it does so with a broken hand."

It's okay if we have different takes on this. I just don't consider infatuation to be love. I know Cinderella sings, "So this is love..." :) I'm such a heretic. The enduring love between a husband and wife is something different. It's, well, slower burning.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
I am quoted you. If you want to change your mind, I'm listening:



Is this ^^ true or false?
i'm not changing my mind but the service to self type, the dualist will not accept. like it or not the veiling of the unconscious allows for free will even to its own detriment and delusion.

the ultimate reality is that there is no separation between the knower and the creator but to the dualist, the blinded, the believer they are drawn forever out into the allusion of chaos until they are lost. some who wonder are lost.

as is indicated the naassene psalm



"The Law of Universal Genesis was the first born nous; the second, Chaos shed by the firstborn. The third was received by the soul [.....]

Clad in the shape of a hind She [Sophia] is worn away with death's slavery.

Now She has mastery and glimpses light: now She is plunged in misery and weeps.

Now She is mourned, and her self rejoices. Now she weeps and is finally condemned.

Now She is condemned and finally dies.

And now She reaches the point where hemmed in by evil, She knows no way out. Misled, She has entered a labyrinth.

Then Jesus said, "Behold, Father, she wanders the earth pursued by evil. Far from thy Breath she is going astray. She is trying to flee bitter Chaos, and does not know how she is to escape. Send me forth, O Father, therefore, and I, bearing the seal shall descend and wander all Aeons through, all mysteries reveal. I shall manifest the forms of the gods and teach them the secrets of the holy way which I call Gnosis [.....]"
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
IMHO, "romantic love" is simply infatuation, what we call chemistry. It's when an attraction hijacks normal thought, obsesses about the person, and idealizes them. It makes for wonderful movies, but in real life it never lasts. To have an abiding love, a person must nurture it by caring for the other. Love is waking up in the morning and thinking, "What can I do today that will make their life a little nicer."


it utilizes the same hormone..................oxytocin

 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
What you don't understand is that you are talking apples and I'm talking about oranges. Until you accept that I mean something quite different than you when I say "love," I'm going to continue coming across to you as "not seeing the whole picture."
their both fruits, they're both grown on a tree, they both require temperate climates..................they have more in common than not
 
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Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
Good. And thank you.



So what? You still contradicted yourself. But that was yesterday. Now is more important. Good Morning, love. How are you?
the contradiction is in the illusion. focus on action ignore shapes, forms, ojbects.

in order to reach the believer you have to think like a believer, until they accept reality. and what will that awakening be like?

some will be disappointed....................


 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
their both fruits, they're both grown on a tree, they both require temperate climates..................they have more in common than not
Oh puhleeze. An apple is not an orange. But if you really want to needlessly pick, I'll say that you are talking cumquats and I am talking aardvarks. Happy now?
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
Oh puhleeze. An apple is not an orange. But if you really want to needlessly pick, I'll say that you are talking cumquats and I am talking aardvarks. Happy now?
appearances are deceiving. the truth is in the action and not the form


be aware of sheep in wolves clothing
 

Balthazzar

N. Germanic Descent
the fear of love is the beginning of light? understanding? seeing?
The fear in/or of love and wrath is the beginning of understanding. Proverbial addition of wrath and love defining the nature of (insert origin here) per Isaiah 45. Fierce it is or can be and caution (fear) is more understandable than having none.
 
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