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Barbie

Clizby Wampuscat

Well-Known Member
Barbie was a relentless attack on men with pro abortion imagery showing all men to be patriarchal, misogynistic, low intelligence, easily manipulated, greedy and violent. I cannot tell you how relentless it was, you have to see it to understand. If I was not at the drive in I would have walked out. My wife was appalled as well. We both felt sick when we left.

Here is a summary: It starts in Barbieland where the Barbies are in charge and the Kens are submissive. Stereotypical Barbie and White Ken go to the real world from Barbieland to find a girl that needs help. They depict the real world as a patriarchal misogynistic world where men rule everything and women are subjugated. White Ken sees this and learns from this "real" society. He goes back to Barbieland without Barbie and brainwashes the Barbies and institutes a patriarchal, misogynistic society that oppresses women. Barbie goes back to find this and manipulates the men into fighting a violent war between themselves so the Barbies can take over again. When this is done, everything is back to the way it should be. The Kens are submissive again and the Barbies are in charge.

Key Takeaways:

1. First scene bashed motherhood and literally had little girls bashing baby dolls heads on strollers, cribs and rocks to destroy them
2. Heard the word patriarchy at least 40 times.
3. All men acted like it was 1950.
4. The only "good" male in the movie was shown as meek and powerless.
5. Showed the Mattel board of directors as all misogynistic men when in actuality Mattel has 5 of the 11 board members as women.
6. All men were shown to be dumb.
7. The white Ken was shown to be a moron and the leader of the rebellion that brainwashed the Barbies into complying with an oppressive patriarchal society.
8. Long monologues of how women are oppressed and how hard it is to be a woman in a patriarchal society with no talk at all of any real issues men have.
9. Ken was "reformed" at the end of the movie depicting him as meek, submissive and powerless.

I wanted to like this movie hoping it was a fun movie with a good message for women and girls. It was worse than anything I could have imagined and a bait and switch. No trailer showed what the movie was really about. My 12 yo son will not be watching this movie. He would come out of it thinking that he is terrible just for being a boy. Instead of cleverly bringing up issues men and women have and have them work together to resolve or at least understand each other, they used hate and bigotry to get their view across.

Before you write this off as some kind of male fragility or something, take time to understand the movie or watch it. It was unfair and divisive.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Barbie was a relentless attack on men with pro abortion imagery showing all men to be patriarchal, misogynistic, low intelligence, easily manipulated, greedy and violent. I cannot tell you how relentless it was, you have to see it to understand. If I was not at the drive in I would have walked out. My wife was appalled as well. We both felt sick when we left.

Here is a summary: It starts in Barbieland where the Barbies are in charge and the Kens are submissive. Stereotypical Barbie and White Ken go to the real world from Barbieland to find a girl that needs help. They depict the real world as a patriarchal misogynistic world where men rule everything and women are subjugated. White Ken sees this and learns from this "real" society. He goes back to Barbieland without Barbie and brainwashes the Barbies and institutes a patriarchal, misogynistic society that oppresses women. Barbie goes back to find this and manipulates the men into fighting a violent war between themselves so the Barbies can take over again. When this is done, everything is back to the way it should be. The Kens are submissive again and the Barbies are in charge.

Key Takeaways:

1. First scene bashed motherhood and literally had little girls bashing baby dolls heads on strollers, cribs and rocks to destroy them
2. Heard the word patriarchy at least 40 times.
3. All men acted like it was 1950.
4. The only "good" male in the movie was shown as meek and powerless.
5. Showed the Mattel board of directors as all misogynistic men when in actuality Mattel has 5 of the 11 board members as women.
6. All men were shown to be dumb.
7. The white Ken was shown to be a moron and the leader of the rebellion that brainwashed the Barbies into complying with an oppressive patriarchal society.
8. Long monologues of how women are oppressed and how hard it is to be a woman in a patriarchal society with no talk at all of any real issues men have.
9. Ken was "reformed" at the end of the movie depicting him as meek, submissive and powerless.

I wanted to like this movie hoping it was a fun movie with a good message for women and girls. It was worse than anything I could have imagined and a bait and switch. No trailer showed what the movie was really about. My 12 yo son will not be watching this movie. He would come out of it thinking that he is terrible just for being a boy. Instead of cleverly bringing up issues men and women have and have them work together to resolve or at least understand each other, they used hate and bigotry to get their view across.

Before you write this off as some kind of male fragility or something, take time to understand the movie or watch it. It was unfair and divisive.
Should have stuck with GI Joe.
 

Orbit

I'm a planet
Purely an anthropological/sociological observation: Plenty of movies have been made that cater to the power fantasies of 12 year old boys, and older man-boys, where women are objects, denied voice, and exist as props. ONE campy movie about a female power fantasy and everyone loses their minds.
 

anna.

colors your eyes with what's not there
Purely an anthropological/sociological observation: Plenty of movies have been made that cater to the power fantasies of 12 year old boys, and older man-boys, where women are objects, denied voice, and exist as props. ONE campy movie about a female power fantasy and everyone loses their minds.

Conservative heads exploding everywhere! Boycott Barbie! Give Ken testosterone! Wait, hormone therapy is bad! But only some hormone therapy is bad so give some to Ken! Ban pink! Don't ban patriarchy, just ban the word patriarchy because we don't want anyone talking about it!
Also Barbie is a marxist conspiracy to take attention away from Jim Caviezel!
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
Barbie was a relentless attack on men with pro abortion imagery showing all men to be patriarchal, misogynistic, low intelligence, easily manipulated, greedy and violent. I cannot tell you how relentless it was, you have to see it to understand. If I was not at the drive in I would have walked out. My wife was appalled as well. We both felt sick when we left.

Here is a summary: It starts in Barbieland where the Barbies are in charge and the Kens are submissive. Stereotypical Barbie and White Ken go to the real world from Barbieland to find a girl that needs help. They depict the real world as a patriarchal misogynistic world where men rule everything and women are subjugated. White Ken sees this and learns from this "real" society. He goes back to Barbieland without Barbie and brainwashes the Barbies and institutes a patriarchal, misogynistic society that oppresses women. Barbie goes back to find this and manipulates the men into fighting a violent war between themselves so the Barbies can take over again. When this is done, everything is back to the way it should be. The Kens are submissive again and the Barbies are in charge.

Key Takeaways:

1. First scene bashed motherhood and literally had little girls bashing baby dolls heads on strollers, cribs and rocks to destroy them
2. Heard the word patriarchy at least 40 times.
3. All men acted like it was 1950.
4. The only "good" male in the movie was shown as meek and powerless.
5. Showed the Mattel board of directors as all misogynistic men when in actuality Mattel has 5 of the 11 board members as women.
6. All men were shown to be dumb.
7. The white Ken was shown to be a moron and the leader of the rebellion that brainwashed the Barbies into complying with an oppressive patriarchal society.
8. Long monologues of how women are oppressed and how hard it is to be a woman in a patriarchal society with no talk at all of any real issues men have.
9. Ken was "reformed" at the end of the movie depicting him as meek, submissive and powerless.

I wanted to like this movie hoping it was a fun movie with a good message for women and girls. It was worse than anything I could have imagined and a bait and switch. No trailer showed what the movie was really about. My 12 yo son will not be watching this movie. He would come out of it thinking that he is terrible just for being a boy. Instead of cleverly bringing up issues men and women have and have them work together to resolve or at least understand each other, they used hate and bigotry to get their view across.

Before you write this off as some kind of male fragility or something, take time to understand the movie or watch it. It was unfair and divisive.
Huh my nephew loved the movie (he’s 10.) He was more appalled to have liked something Barbie related lol
I think he saw it as a dare or bet with one of his friends from school. Not sure.

I didn’t watch it, had to work that day. Might see it with my nieces but they’re a little young yet. So I can’t really comment one way or the other (until I see the film for myself.)
But I mean Ken was always portrayed as a submissive dummy. :shrug:
That was true back when I was playing with Barbie dolls as a tot.
Legit. The only time I remember seeing Ken be somewhat aggressive or even not an outright submissive dummy (to an extent anyway) was in like the Toy Story movies. And even then, that’s clearly satire.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
The whole premise of a movie about Barbie seemed kind of silly when I first heard of its existence.

Was G.I. Joe in it?
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PoetPhilosopher

Veteran Member
Barbie was a relentless attack on men with pro abortion imagery showing all men to be patriarchal, misogynistic, low intelligence, easily manipulated, greedy and violent. I cannot tell you how relentless it was, you have to see it to understand. If I was not at the drive in I would have walked out. My wife was appalled as well. We both felt sick when we left.

Here is a summary: It starts in Barbieland where the Barbies are in charge and the Kens are submissive. Stereotypical Barbie and White Ken go to the real world from Barbieland to find a girl that needs help. They depict the real world as a patriarchal misogynistic world where men rule everything and women are subjugated. White Ken sees this and learns from this "real" society. He goes back to Barbieland without Barbie and brainwashes the Barbies and institutes a patriarchal, misogynistic society that oppresses women. Barbie goes back to find this and manipulates the men into fighting a violent war between themselves so the Barbies can take over again. When this is done, everything is back to the way it should be. The Kens are submissive again and the Barbies are in charge.

Key Takeaways:

1. First scene bashed motherhood and literally had little girls bashing baby dolls heads on strollers, cribs and rocks to destroy them
2. Heard the word patriarchy at least 40 times.
3. All men acted like it was 1950.
4. The only "good" male in the movie was shown as meek and powerless.
5. Showed the Mattel board of directors as all misogynistic men when in actuality Mattel has 5 of the 11 board members as women.
6. All men were shown to be dumb.
7. The white Ken was shown to be a moron and the leader of the rebellion that brainwashed the Barbies into complying with an oppressive patriarchal society.
8. Long monologues of how women are oppressed and how hard it is to be a woman in a patriarchal society with no talk at all of any real issues men have.
9. Ken was "reformed" at the end of the movie depicting him as meek, submissive and powerless.

I wanted to like this movie hoping it was a fun movie with a good message for women and girls. It was worse than anything I could have imagined and a bait and switch. No trailer showed what the movie was really about. My 12 yo son will not be watching this movie. He would come out of it thinking that he is terrible just for being a boy. Instead of cleverly bringing up issues men and women have and have them work together to resolve or at least understand each other, they used hate and bigotry to get their view across.

Before you write this off as some kind of male fragility or something, take time to understand the movie or watch it. It was unfair and divisive.

Sounds like a good movie!

Yeah, I figured the movie would ruffle a few feathers.
 

Clizby Wampuscat

Well-Known Member
Purely an anthropological/sociological observation: Plenty of movies have been made that cater to the power fantasies of 12 year old boys, and older man-boys, where women are objects, denied voice, and exist as props. ONE campy movie about a female power fantasy and everyone loses their minds.
Ok, which movies show men that have 100% control over women, subjugate them etc and society considers them the good guys.
 

Viker

Your beloved eccentric Auntie Cristal
They snubbed my idea of a (retro) Planet of the Apes/Barbie crossover. Basically, the Apes over run Barbie's world enslaving her and Ken. Hollywood sucks these days. :mad:
 

Viker

Your beloved eccentric Auntie Cristal
Ok, which movies show men that have 100% control over women, subjugate them etc and society considers them the good guys.
The Fast and Furious franchise. Even the tough smart women are never tough and smart as Vin Diesel, who plays a criminal and the good guy. So even the tough smart women are just more eye candy for teenage boys and adult aged adolescent male fans.

Pretty much every James Bond movie.

Nearly every western made.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
A man went into a toy store to get a Barbie doll for his daughter, and he checked prices, which went as follows:
Surfing Barbie $50.
Skiing Barbie $50
Party Barbie $50
Divorced Barbie $500

He takes the latter to the cashier and say this must be mismarked, and she says no, it's not. He asked why it's so expensive, and she says because Divorced Barbie comes with Ken's boat, Ken's motorcycle, Ken's ...
 

Brickjectivity

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
They snubbed my idea of a (retro) Planet of the Apes/Barbie crossover. Basically, the Apes over run Barbie's world enslaving her and Ken. Hollywood sucks these days. :mad:
"Get your stinking paws off me you unkenly ape!"

"Beware the beast Barbie, because she is the devil's pawn."
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
Fight Club comes to mind, and just about the entire action movie genre, the Marvel Universe. They are all male power fantasies. They don't have to have a 1 to 1 plot correspondence,
Ironically with Fight Club it was supposed to be a not so subtle criticism of said male power fantasy. Even criticised “toxic masculinity.”

Maybe it works better in a book, idk.
But my cousin (high school English teacher) is still lamenting over the “wasted moral.”
 

Clizby Wampuscat

Well-Known Member
What's your good message for women and girls?
How about something like men and women are different but if we work together and communicate together we can understand each other better, make society better and each other better. Is this not a good message? They could have done that with this movie.
 
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