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Barbie

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The world is on fire
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The outcome of the Barbie furor?

‘Barbie’ dominates the box office, raking in a $155 million opening weekend

Greta Gerwig’s “Barbie” raked in a stunning $155 million domestically over the weekend, giving the film the largest opening weekend of 2023 and the biggest ever debut for a female director.

The combined release of “Barbie” and Christopher Nolan’s “Oppenheimer,” dubbed “Barbenheimer,” has become a pop culture sensation – and one that might revive a struggling movie industry.

Barbenheimer was the fourth highest-grossing industry weekend of all time in North America, totaling $302 million Sunday. Analysts believe it will grow even more when final numbers are reported Monday.

 

Watchmen

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Barbie was a relentless attack on men with pro abortion imagery showing all men to be patriarchal, misogynistic, low intelligence, easily manipulated, greedy and violent. I cannot tell you how relentless it was, you have to see it to understand. If I was not at the drive in I would have walked out. My wife was appalled as well. We both felt sick when we left.

Here is a summary: It starts in Barbieland where the Barbies are in charge and the Kens are submissive. Stereotypical Barbie and White Ken go to the real world from Barbieland to find a girl that needs help. They depict the real world as a patriarchal misogynistic world where men rule everything and women are subjugated. White Ken sees this and learns from this "real" society. He goes back to Barbieland without Barbie and brainwashes the Barbies and institutes a patriarchal, misogynistic society that oppresses women. Barbie goes back to find this and manipulates the men into fighting a violent war between themselves so the Barbies can take over again. When this is done, everything is back to the way it should be. The Kens are submissive again and the Barbies are in charge.

Key Takeaways:

1. First scene bashed motherhood and literally had little girls bashing baby dolls heads on strollers, cribs and rocks to destroy them
2. Heard the word patriarchy at least 40 times.
3. All men acted like it was 1950.
4. The only "good" male in the movie was shown as meek and powerless.
5. Showed the Mattel board of directors as all misogynistic men when in actuality Mattel has 5 of the 11 board members as women.
6. All men were shown to be dumb.
7. The white Ken was shown to be a moron and the leader of the rebellion that brainwashed the Barbies into complying with an oppressive patriarchal society.
8. Long monologues of how women are oppressed and how hard it is to be a woman in a patriarchal society with no talk at all of any real issues men have.
9. Ken was "reformed" at the end of the movie depicting him as meek, submissive and powerless.

I wanted to like this movie hoping it was a fun movie with a good message for women and girls. It was worse than anything I could have imagined and a bait and switch. No trailer showed what the movie was really about. My 12 yo son will not be watching this movie. He would come out of it thinking that he is terrible just for being a boy. Instead of cleverly bringing up issues men and women have and have them work together to resolve or at least understand each other, they used hate and bigotry to get their view across.

Before you write this off as some kind of male fragility or something, take time to understand the movie or watch it. It was unfair and divisive.
Saw the movie. Loved it. I can’t help but think this review is satire or the product of a disturbed mind.
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
Well, what can one say, but: "Diddums". :D

My son warned me the US Right is having a real hissy fit over this (girls') film. Seems Ben Shapiro has done his nut, teehee.

Ngl, it’s just as entertaining watching all the meltdowns through the reactions on my (admittedly left leaning) Twitch Spaces.
Affectionately dubbed “chud watch” in said spaces

Because it’s like watching folks completely miss the entire point of actual media theory/literacy in real time.
Like I swear Benny Boi would fail an average high school English class in my country. And I can’t tell if he’s being sincere or just spewing his tears for money.
 

Viker

Your beloved eccentric Auntie Cristal
The outcome of the Barbie furor?

‘Barbie’ dominates the box office, raking in a $155 million opening weekend

Greta Gerwig’s “Barbie” raked in a stunning $155 million domestically over the weekend, giving the film the largest opening weekend of 2023 and the biggest ever debut for a female director.

The combined release of “Barbie” and Christopher Nolan’s “Oppenheimer,” dubbed “Barbenheimer,” has become a pop culture sensation – and one that might revive a struggling movie industry.


Barbenheimer was the fourth highest-grossing industry weekend of all time in North America, totaling $302 million Sunday. Analysts believe it will grow even more when final numbers are reported Monday.

I wanted to give this a laughing frube as well as winner. Because of 'Barbenheimer'. LoL

There should be an atomic Barbie.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I wanted to give this a laughing frube as well as winner. Because of 'Barbenheimer'. LoL

There should be an atomic Barbie.
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PureX

Veteran Member
Purely an anthropological/sociological observation: Plenty of movies have been made that cater to the power fantasies of 12 year old boys, and older man-boys, where women are objects, denied voice, and exist as props. ONE campy movie about a female power fantasy and everyone loses their minds.
Sadly, I think the detractors totally missed the fact that it is a campy fantasy movie made from the perspective of adult women remembering the world they imagined back when they were young girls playing with their Barbie dolls. Of course the kens were one-dimensional pretty boys meant to serve the whims of the barbies. That's what barbieland was for the young girls that played with those dolls.
But then as the girls got a little older they realized that real life wasn't like that. Real life is dominated by a bunch of misogynistic frat boys, more or less. So the now more grown up girls have to learn how to take back their power in that misogynistic environment.
It's just a comedy about the contradictions between the Barbie fantasyland of young girls imaginations and the reality of their growing up into a male dominated culture. It's not a man-hating commentary on our misogynist reality. It's just a funny, nostalgic, ironic glimpse at what it's like for girls growing up.
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
Well here are three reviews, and seemingly seeing the film as not being that aimed at the (very) young:



 

Yerda

Veteran Member
Barbie was a relentless attack on men with pro abortion imagery showing all men to be patriarchal, misogynistic, low intelligence, easily manipulated, greedy and violent. I cannot tell you how relentless it was, you have to see it to understand. If I was not at the drive in I would have walked out. My wife was appalled as well. We both felt sick when we left.

Here is a summary: It starts in Barbieland where the Barbies are in charge and the Kens are submissive. Stereotypical Barbie and White Ken go to the real world from Barbieland to find a girl that needs help. They depict the real world as a patriarchal misogynistic world where men rule everything and women are subjugated. White Ken sees this and learns from this "real" society. He goes back to Barbieland without Barbie and brainwashes the Barbies and institutes a patriarchal, misogynistic society that oppresses women. Barbie goes back to find this and manipulates the men into fighting a violent war between themselves so the Barbies can take over again. When this is done, everything is back to the way it should be. The Kens are submissive again and the Barbies are in charge.

Key Takeaways:

1. First scene bashed motherhood and literally had little girls bashing baby dolls heads on strollers, cribs and rocks to destroy them
2. Heard the word patriarchy at least 40 times.
3. All men acted like it was 1950.
4. The only "good" male in the movie was shown as meek and powerless.
5. Showed the Mattel board of directors as all misogynistic men when in actuality Mattel has 5 of the 11 board members as women.
6. All men were shown to be dumb.
7. The white Ken was shown to be a moron and the leader of the rebellion that brainwashed the Barbies into complying with an oppressive patriarchal society.
8. Long monologues of how women are oppressed and how hard it is to be a woman in a patriarchal society with no talk at all of any real issues men have.
9. Ken was "reformed" at the end of the movie depicting him as meek, submissive and powerless.

I wanted to like this movie hoping it was a fun movie with a good message for women and girls. It was worse than anything I could have imagined and a bait and switch. No trailer showed what the movie was really about. My 12 yo son will not be watching this movie. He would come out of it thinking that he is terrible just for being a boy. Instead of cleverly bringing up issues men and women have and have them work together to resolve or at least understand each other, they used hate and bigotry to get their view across.

Before you write this off as some kind of male fragility or something, take time to understand the movie or watch it. It was unfair and divisive.
Why is everybody trying to sell me this film?
 

Clizby Wampuscat

Well-Known Member
I'd say this world is pretty much past working together currently and under the current political climate, with one side not even trying to. In such cases, "meeting fire with fire" might prove useful. Which this movie seems to be doing.

Such a message as yours might have worked for a movie pre-2016, though.
That is why we need to show men and women working together.
 

Clizby Wampuscat

Well-Known Member
I'm eagerly looking forward to watching the movie, and I like that it has a different and rare story for a blockbuster. Its immense success seems to me a good sign that most moviegoers don't care as much or feel as outraged about the intentionally exaggerated, female-oriented theme as a subset of conservative critics are.

I don't see the need for a two-hour movie strictly about a doll marketed to girls to have a message about men's issues. Why would that be necessary? Should we expect a World War II movie to necessarily have messages about nuclear proliferation and its dangers? Or a movie about a rags-to-riches story to have a message about how not all rich and powerful people are unempathetic and how a lot of them are helpful and charitable?

I would equally be fine with a movie about men's issues not necessarily delving into women's issues. Movies need a primary focus given constraints of plot, runtime, and target audience.
Let me know what you think when you see it. All the men were misogynistic, stupid, greedy, easily manipulated, dirty or they were meek. Find one man that was good or not meek. If you replaced jews for the men in this movie you would have a movie that portrayed the jews as dirty, greedy, oppressive, dishonest and stupid. Would that be ok?

It was also marketed to kids. In the movie they talk about wanting to see the bulge in the Kens pants, tell the children watching their moms don't like being moms, and ken's beaching each other off. It also shows no women in power in the real world. How is that realistic?
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
Let me know what you think when you see it. All the men were misogynistic, stupid, greedy, easily manipulated, dirty or they were meek. Find one man that was good or not meek. If you replaced jews for the men in this movie you would have a movie that portrayed the jews as dirty, greedy, oppressive, dishonest and stupid. Would that be ok?

It was also marketed to kids. In the movie they talk about wanting to see the bulge in the Kens pants, tell the children watching their moms don't like being moms, and ken's beaching each other off. It also shows no women in power in the real world. How is that realistic?
I think you have to approach it as being satire, but the main issue - as you mentioned - is that it will likely appeal to children (well I wonder why :eek:), even if the main points of the film will go over their heads.
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
Let me know what you think when you see it. All the men were misogynistic, stupid, greedy, easily manipulated, dirty or they were meek. Find one man that was good or not meek. If you replaced jews for the men in this movie you would have a movie that portrayed the jews as dirty, greedy, oppressive, dishonest and stupid. Would that be ok?

It was also marketed to kids. In the movie they talk about wanting to see the bulge in the Kens pants, tell the children watching their moms don't like being moms, and ken's beaching each other off. It also shows no women in power in the real world. How is that realistic?
You are aware that’s it’s a kids movie, right?
Jesus.
Not a good idea to use a kids movie as a layout for one’s life. Like dude, are you okay? Holy damn!!

If I lived my life according to movies, I would have resigned myself to an awful disgusting existence goddamned decades ago.
Like wtf?

Are you honestly aware of pop culture’s treatment of femininity? Geez!! Pop culture has long diminished and otherwise demeaned its existence.
Goddamned Classical culture treats it as something that is disgusting. One would look at your reaction to a simple kids movie and react with disgust. Like holy damn! Pathetic much?
For shame!
Meanwhile everyone else has to put up with movies that treat them like dirt.
Hmm
 
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