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Be a Fascist with thyself!

Spiderman

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No doubt what Fascists did was bloodthirsty, barbaric, evil, and inhumane. It was largely in response to the rise of Bolshevism.

But I'm finding some benefit in some of Mussolini's teachings. I see such teachings in Scripture and the lives of the Saints. In his Doctrine of Fascism Mussolini says ""The life of a Fascist is serious, austere, and religious...All its manifestations are poised in a world sustained by moral forces and subject to spiritual responsibilities. The Fascist disdains an easy life. The Fascist conception of life is a Religious one in which man is viewed in his immanent relation to a higher law, endowed with an objective will transcending the individual and raising him to conscious membership of a spiritual society."
That Spiritual society to me is the communion of Angels and Saints, the Kingdom of God, Heaven. Jesus said the Kingdom of God is within. There are many forces at war with that Kingdom. The Fascist disdains an easy life and places much emphasis on austerity, self-discipline, and being strict and severe with oneself.

If you are anything like me, love for pleasure and hedonism has gotten you into trouble, weakened you, damaged your health, and lead to legal problems. Hedonism, materialism, and love for pleasure was condemned by Mussolini. Most of what Scripture condemns as sin is condemned by Mussolini as well. He went so far as to ban swearing in public as a crime, and closed night clubs and wine shops. The vice that Mussolini failed to condemn was hate, and the virtue he never promoted was "love your enemies". If Mussolini preached that, Fascism would have been good for society and strengthened minds and souls (at least from a Christian perspective).

Fascism promotes "discipline of the whole person, spiritual life," and veneration of Saints, martyrs, and heroes. It condemns laziness, cowardice, self-interest, and as I said "love for pleasure". If Fascists would have taken their zeal for self-discipline, courage, and austerity, and combined it with charity for one's neighbor, and an inward crusade against the unhealthy passions that vie for control of the mind and soul, it would have worked.

The Fascist disdains an easy life. So did the Saints. Saint Dominic used to tell people to pray for the grace to love suffering. Such an attitude has the potential to create a stronger, more disciplined person, and can even lead to less suffering in the end.

Okay, the youtube is just to show that fascists wore pretty uniforms :p, and used symbolism and banners and parades to stir up patriotism, fervor, and motivation of the youth. Do you think such patriotism and fervor could potentially strengthen a nation if it didn't have the hatred with it?

Also, the swastika should not be seen as evil. It is a sacred symbol to buddhists, hindus, and Jainists.
" It was used at least 5,000 years before Adolf Hitler designed the Nazi flag. The word swastika comes from the Sanskrit svastika, which means “good fortune” or “well-being." To this day it is a sacred symbol in Hinduism, Buddhism, and Jainism. It is a common sight on temples or houses in India and Indonesia. Swastikas also have an ancient history in Europe, appearing on artifacts from pre-Christian European cultures. For centuries a symbol of good luck and auspiciousness, the swastika even found expression in Byzantine and Christian art.
History of the Swastika

This symbol that so many hold as sacred for thousands of years, should not be seen or used as a symbol of hate.

Anyway, Scripture says we are at war with the devil, the flesh, and the world. I find my study of Fascism is helping me make a personal holy war (Jihad) against those enemies that have caused so much grief, especially it helps suffer through the temptations to use drugs and alcohol.

Drugs and alcohol are an attempt to escape suffering and anxiety. I find that suffering through such temptations with a sober mind and the grace of God, makes my tolerance to suffering grow. Turning to instant gratification and momentary pleasure just weakens me.
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
Once again. What Fascists did was evil. Aggression on other nations and antisemitism is evil. I support Israel. Hitler was very sick. This isn't about defending any of that. But I find some of the teachings of Mussolini to help me with disciplining myself and living a more virtuous life.
 

Stevicus

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Staff member
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Regarding the YouTube video, I'm reminded of a line from George Carlin: "Do you ever look at the crowds in old movies and wonder if they're dead yet? I can't help it."
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
One point is that certain suffering strengthens us. Athletes grow strong through self-control, disciplines, and sacrifice. Instead of fleeing from the cross it can benefit a person to take up the cross and embrace it. Fleeing from suffering has severely weakened me. The teachings of Mussolini motivate me to do penance, embrace the cross, and uproot the vices that weaken the mind, heart, body, and soul. It won't be easy. Resistance builds strength.
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
Fascism is rising in America Europe an Russia...looks like history is repeating itself. WW3 perhaps
 

Valjean

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Premium Member
One point is that certain suffering strengthens us. Athletes grow strong through self-control, disciplines, and sacrifice. Instead of fleeing from the cross it can benefit a person to take up the cross and embrace it. Fleeing from suffering has severely weakened me. The teachings of Mussolini motivate me to do penance, embrace the cross, and uproot the vices that weaken the mind, heart, body, and soul. It won't be easy. Resistance builds strength.
But what will you do with this strength? Il Duce used it to go to war.
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
But what will you do with this strength? Il Duce used it to go to war.
I will go to war with my selfishness, lusts, ego, love for pleasure, anger, covetousness, laziness, the flesh, hedonism, and the Devil.

I hope to be charitable to all and do what Jesus would do.

Fascism motivates me to be a soldier for Christ. I walk everywhere, but now I march with purpose, keeping my eyes on the mother of God and her son, letting nothing phase me, while praying the rosary. Mary and the Saints called the Rosary the weapon. I have witnessed it's power!
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
One point is that certain suffering strengthens us. Athletes grow strong through self-control, disciplines, and sacrifice. Instead of fleeing from the cross it can benefit a person to take up the cross and embrace it. Fleeing from suffering has severely weakened me. The teachings of Mussolini motivate me to do penance, embrace the cross, and uproot the vices that weaken the mind, heart, body, and soul. It won't be easy. Resistance builds strength.
And I guess I'm the only one here who finds the teachings of Mussolini motivate me to be a better person... Waaa! :(
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I'd rather not be a fascist with myself. Too many norms, social expectations, and an excessive discipline that makes life boring and dull.
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
I find that sin leads to shame, regret , jails, institutions, and death.

Mussolini condemned all of the vices that Jesus and the Saints condemned. If he would have condemned hatred and bigotry, and Wars of aggression, he would have been a benevolent dictator.
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
You realize that's a joke song, right? It's a recipe for cookies or whatever.
Tool – Die Eier Von Satan Lyrics | Genius Lyrics
I knew it was a joke, but I didn't know the details. You know everything Frank. :) You should be a politician.

Totally off topic, but I'm just wondering out of curiosity, when was the last time you went to confession?. Do you feel the need to confess that you're gay and transexual?

Don't answer the question if you're uncomfortable with it, I just was curious because I was wondering if you felt the need to confess such a thing in the confession booth, and what the priests have to say about it.

I totally respect your decision to be transexual and gay. You're a good person.

It's an off-topic question I thought I'd ask here because this thread is dead anyways.

God bless you and have a great day.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
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I knew it was a joke, but I didn't know the details. You know everything Frank. :) You should be a politician.

Totally off topic, but I'm just wondering out of curiosity, when was the last time you went to confession?. Do you feel the need to confess that you're gay and transexual?

Don't answer the question if you're uncomfortable with it, I just was curious because I was wondering if you felt the need to confess such a thing in the confession booth, and what the priests have to say about it.

I totally respect your decision to be transexual and gay. You're a good person.

It's an off-topic question I thought I'd ask here because this thread is dead anyways.

God bless you and have a great day.
Lol, thanks. I'd never make it as a politician as there's too much dirt about me out there and my public image would quickly be torn to shreds. Lol

It's been almost 8 years since I went to confession. No, I never confessed or even told a priest about my sexual orientation or gender identity. I didn't feel comfortable talking about it and the priest I might've felt comfortable talking about it with has since retired. The only person at the parish I was at I told about my gender identity was my godmother and she hurt me because recommended I go to Courage, so she was confusing it with sexual orientation. That hurt but she has a lot of issues in her life, anyway. If I ever did go back to the Church, I wouldn't go back to that pariah becauae they're too conservative and hypocritical.

I'm not gay, the way. I'm pansexual but prefer to be called queer since I like how vague it is.

God bless you, too.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
That song's a recipe that for cookies that requires no egg ("und kiener ire). Die Eire von Satan, or the "Balls of Satan" is the name of these cookies. I've always wanted to try them, but I have no idea how much a "knife tip" is supposed to be for the Turkish hashish.
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
Lol, thanks. I'd never make it as a politician as there's too much dirt about me out there and my public image would quickly be torn to shreds. Lol

It's been almost 8 years since I went to confession. No, I never confessed or even told a priest about my sexual orientation or gender identity. I didn't feel comfortable talking about it and the priest I might've felt comfortable talking about it with has since retired. The only person at the parish I was at I told about my gender identity was my godmother and she hurt me because recommended I go to Courage, so she was confusing it with sexual orientation. That hurt but she has a lot of issues in her life, anyway. If I ever did go back to the Church, I wouldn't go back to that pariah becauae they're too conservative and hypocritical.

I'm not gay, the way. I'm pansexual but prefer to be called queer since I like how vague it is.

God bless you, too.
What's the difference between a pansexual and a bisexual?
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
That song's a recipe that for cookies that requires no egg ("und kiener ire). Die Eire von Satan, or the "Balls of Satan" is the name of these cookies. I've always wanted to try them, but I have no idea how much a "knife tip" is supposed to be for the Turkish hashish.
Some other gems from that album
 
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