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Belief in human evolution makes people better persons

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
And that is what our faith teaches. No "different races" which pushes racism... just the human race and thus, faith is not necessarily the reason for bigotry.

Do evolutionist say that there are "races"? Opens the door for racism! :D
As I just pointed out, evolution "says" there is only the human race.

Your faith teaches that there are no "different races?" Where does it say that in the Bible? I mean, apart from the parts that say the Jews are the special chosen people? ;)

It's kinda weird how you pretty much ignored everything I said, don't you think?
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
As I just pointed out, evolution "says" there is only the human race.

Your faith teaches that there are no "different races?" Where does it say that in the Bible? I mean, apart from the parts that say the Jews are the special chosen people? ;)

Yet evolution talks about changing and evolving. I always had the question of "If the Australian Aborigines aren't connected to the African people... how did they evolve? Were there the same ancestor even though there is no way for an animal to get from the mainland to the Continent Island? Did everything progress at the exactly the same rate and exactly the same time in the exactly the same way?

No answer has really addressed this... yet.

Acts 17:26\ And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;

Gen 3:20 And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.

And, of course, Genesis account on who went where in the known world of that time from that point on.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
I always had the question of "If the Australian Aborigines aren't connected to the African people... how did they evolve?
It may have occurred during one of the ice ages as the sea levels were sometimes low enough to create a land bridge between Asia and Australia. Also, it is hypothetically possible that they could have came over using small boats such as what we see with the Pacific Island population whereas dna comparisons show they were originally from the south-eastern Asia mainland.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
It may have occurred during one of the ice ages as the sea levels were sometimes low enough to create a land bridge between Asia and Australia. Also, it is hypothetically possible that they could have came over using small boats such as what we see with the Pacific Island population whereas dna comparisons show they were originally from the south-eastern Asia mainland.
:) I'm not sure they had boats beyond 7000 years.

But since we are "one Human race" ... I can expect that we would have some DNA relations :D
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
Yet evolution talks about changing and evolving. I always had the question of "If the Australian Aborigines aren't connected to the African people... how did they evolve? Were there the same ancestor even though there is no way for an animal to get from the mainland to the Continent Island? Did everything progress at the exactly the same rate and exactly the same time in the exactly the same way?

No answer has really addressed this... yet.
Where is the racist part?

Here is some information that addresses your questions:
Almost all living people outside of Africa trace back to a single migration more than 50,000 years ago
Where did Australia's aboriginals come from? Genomic data reveals clues.
Aborigines: The First Out of Africa, the First in Asia and Australia
Unprecedented study of Aboriginal Australians points to one shared Out of Africa migration for modern humans

Acts 17:26\ And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;

Gen 3:20 And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.

And, of course, Genesis account on who went where in the known world of that time from that point on.
And to you that means that all humans are created equally?
How about that part in Genesis where it says we're supposed to have dominion over the animals?

How about those parts (the part of my post you ignored) that say the Jews are the chosen people?

Chosen people - Wikipedia
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Where is the racist part?

Here is some information that addresses your questions:
Almost all living people outside of Africa trace back to a single migration more than 50,000 years ago
Where did Australia's aboriginals come from? Genomic data reveals clues.
Aborigines: The First Out of Africa, the First in Asia and Australia
Unprecedented study of Aboriginal Australians points to one shared Out of Africa migration for modern humans


And to you that means that all humans are created equally?
How about that part in Genesis where it says we're supposed to have dominion over the animals?

How about those parts (the part of my post you ignored) that say the Jews are the chosen people?

Chosen people - Wikipedia

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Notice #1 ":Almost all"... uh oh... racism because of evolutionary thought :D
  1. And to you that means that all humans are created equally?
  2. How about that part in Genesis where it says we're supposed to have dominion over the animals?
  3. How about those parts (the part of my post you ignored) that say the Jews are the chosen people?

Chosen people - Wikipedia

1) yes
2) ??? N/A
3) Chosen, yes, for a specific purpose but still equal. Men and women are equal but only women can have babies. Doesn't make men less equal or women more equal. Each has a purpose.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
You mean the very post I just responded to?


Notice #1 ":Almost all"... uh oh... racism because of evolutionary thought :D
You didn't actually read them, did you? You're not actually interested in where they came from, are you?


1) yes
2) ??? N/A
3) Chosen, yes, for a specific purpose but still equal. Men and women are equal but only women can have babies. Doesn't make men less equal or women more equal. Each has a purpose.
1)Okay then.
2)Of course it's applicable. Evolution demonstrates that all living creatures are related, to varying degrees. The Bible says humans have dominion over a bunch of animals.
3)Oh they're special chosen people but still equal to the non-chosen people? How's that work? The Bible doesn't have a ton of great things to say about men and women being equal either. Oh yeah and then there's a difference between the way you're supposed to treat your non-Hebrew slaves versus your Hebrew slaves.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
I'm not sure they had boats beyond 7000 years.
Here: After the Homo erectus possibly using watercrafts more than a million years ago crossing straits between landmasses,[2][3] boats have served as transportation far into the pre-historic.[4] Circumstantial evidence, such as the early settlement of Australia over 40,000 years ago, findings in Crete dated 130,000 years ago,[5] and in Flores dated to 900,000 years ago,[6] suggest that boats have been used since prehistoric times. The earliest boats are thought to have been dugouts,[7] and the oldest boats found by archaeological excavation date from around 7,000–10,000 years ago... Boat - Wikipedia

But since we are "one Human race" ... I can expect that we would have some DNA relations
DNA analysis often can tell us which groups are more or less related. My biggest fear would be to find out we're related! :eek:
 

sayak83

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Yes that is what I think also, if I understand you correctly.
Some people see a statistical relationship and infer causality but statistics do not necessarily show causality.
No not necessarily.
However it is the case that correlations are the only observable evidence of a causal relationship.
Further here inferring direct causation is not necessary at all in this case. What the study shows is that beliefs in evolution are associated with character traits that considered open and non racist across a wide range of nations even after controlling for the effects of other factors like political inclination religion etc. This is evidence against the hypothesis that evolution promotes racist tendencies and evidence for the hypothesis that evolution beliefs actually promotes ( in some way) more openness and tolerance. Note that it proves and disproves neither, but it is evidence that makes one hypothesis less likely to be true than the other.
 

sayak83

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
And that is what our faith teaches. No "different races" which pushes racism... just the human race and thus, faith is not necessarily the reason for bigotry.

Do evolutionist say that there are "races"? Opens the door for racism! :D
No. Evolution has debunked the idea of races 50 years ago.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
If humans only as human make all claims and statements. Then a human's quote is not a GOD but a human realisation that says I'm better than an animal.

Hence as I'm doing all the comparing by observation I state humans behaviour evolved past animal behaviour.

Yet it's not evolution as you live you choose you own you see you behave you observe you compare.

Some humans biology brain chemistry develops bad or strange behaviour. Yet unless they live as a human you can't talk about it unless you observe it.

So teachers human said observing does not give you rights to judge.

As an innocent baby didn't own pre reasons to inherit the type of life expressed.

So it's not involved or de evolved or animal behaviours. It's all human.

As a human was never a race they were a human first science and observing by purpose is by ego.

As a natural human I observe all humans are diverse which is natural only.

So I don't go about trying to identify why. Yet you do. And you only behave by choice as the behaviour. I want to be advised. Yet first position you were advised as you observed.

If Egyptian pyramid temple past used the temple circuit before it was pertinent as jeru salem was where the circuit turned. Humans in the area said they were the most attacked genetic human nation because of the practice of science.

Yet I think Mayans were self combusted using their technology. As the nature around them burnt and water underground tainted.

So I'd say if two different earth vicinities gave the same human result then science proved its practice had caused it.

I think it's how you gained nuclear advice in nature as a bomb. As you already achieved it a long time ago yourselves.

So if human's write a document about their human race in a science environment of change then they knew why.
 

Brian2

Veteran Member
No not necessarily.
However it is the case that correlations are the only observable evidence of a causal relationship.
Further here inferring direct causation is not necessary at all in this case. What the study shows is that beliefs in evolution are associated with character traits that considered open and non racist across a wide range of nations even after controlling for the effects of other factors like political inclination religion etc. This is evidence against the hypothesis that evolution promotes racist tendencies and evidence for the hypothesis that evolution beliefs actually promotes ( in some way) more openness and tolerance. Note that it proves and disproves neither, but it is evidence that makes one hypothesis less likely to be true than the other.

OK
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
Mainly because I addressed the racism in evolution in previous post quoting those who believed in evolution.

There is no racism in evolution , as so many people have already pointed out to you.
There is racism in social darwinism. Which is not evolution. Many people pointed this out as well.


Keep arguing strawmen if you wish.
Not sure what you hope to accomplish with it though.
 

ppp

Well-Known Member
Mainly because I addressed the racism in evolution in previous post quoting those who believed in evolution.
Don't use racism, something severely impacts the lives of real people in terrible ways, as a false flag for your religious conceits. Religious beliefs that require such chicanery have no value.
 

Hockeycowboy

Witness for Jehovah
Premium Member
In certain aspects of tolerance, maybe, but overall, I don’t think so...

The ToE is gaining more and more acceptance while the Bible’s influence is declining, and yet we can observe that people’s attitudes and selfishness are getting worse and worse.

I mean, we’re told we are animals, so might as well act like them, eh?
 

ppp

Well-Known Member
In certain aspects of tolerance, maybe, but overall, I don’t think so...

The ToE is gaining more and more acceptance while the Bible’s influence is declining, and yet we can observe that people’s attitudes and selfishness are getting worse and worse.

I mean, we’re told we are animals, so might as well act like them, eh?
What do you think animals act like?
 
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