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Bernie Sanders Running for US President

dust1n

Zindīq
Racism is what he described, with nothing else mentioned.
There is so much to the founding of the country by revolution, but this was his focus.
Now note that I also understand that that is normal political pandering to a particular audience, one which relishes such feelings of victimhood & shame. So it's obvious that he'd have broader thoughts than what he expressed. As for progress, Obama's election wasn't progress. Advancements which would allow his election were already there when he was elected. But since his election, things appear to have even regressed with his public handling of things. To his credit, he is backing down on militarization of police now (recent news).

Don't let the above give you the impression that the above is significant criticism of Bernie.
He's just campaigning, & he's still far & away my favorite of the Democratic contenders.

Oh, I know you have a Bernie soft spot. Unfortunately, I haven't watched that speech yet, so it's unclear to me the exact context. Either way, despite having mentioned the issue and basically every speech thus far, still isn't quite making himself known to minorities. The job of speech writing must be tiresome and tedious.

Yes, I was unclear. Good call.
I intended "sees" to mean "expresses".
Bernie is no dummy, and campaign pandering will never show completeness of one's thoughts.

It's all good.
 

Politesse

Amor Vincit Omnia
Racism is what he described, with nothing else mentioned.
There is so much to the founding of the country by revolution, but this was his focus.
Now note that I also understand that that is normal political pandering to a particular audience, one which relishes such feelings of victimhood & shame. So it's obvious that he'd have broader thoughts than what he expressed. As for progress, Obama's election wasn't progress. Advancements which would allow his election were already there when he was elected. But since his election, things appear to have even regressed with his public handling of things. To his credit, he is backing down on militarization of police now (recent news).

Don't let the above give you the impression that the above is significant criticism of Bernie.
He's just campaigning, & he's still far & away my favorite of the Democratic contenders.
So you feel he should have thrown in a littte "and freedom too!" to soothe the nerves of the patriots, even though it was irrelevant to what he was discussing? Or what?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
So you feel he should have thrown in a littte "and freedom too!" to soothe the nerves of the patriots, even though it was irrelevant to what he was discussing? Or what?
I'm horribly unqualified to tell a presidential candidate what to say.
My impressions aren't worth a bucked of warm spit.
OK, no more redundancy.
 

dust1n

Zindīq
Nice to know that Bernie Sanders has more or less continued his ascent to presidency without my continuous spamming.

"Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) narrowed the gap with former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in a new NBC/Wall Street Journal poll.

In the poll, conducted among Democratic primary voters Sept. 20-24, Clinton led Sanders 42 percent to 35 percent. While the new poll isn't necessarily an indicator of who will win the contest, the 7-point difference shows a big change from just two months ago. In July, Clinton led Sanders by 34 percentage points, with 59 percent to his 25 percent.

Vice President Joe Biden, who is still considering whether or not to run, also earned the support of 17 percent of those surveyed. When those conducting the survey removed Biden from the field, Clinton's lead over Sanders increased -- she led him 53 percent to 38 percent."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton_5606ff75e4b0af3706dc86aa

According to the latest CBS/YouGov polls, if the party elections in the Iowa Caucuses and the New Hampshire Primary were held today, Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders would win both contests for their respective parties.

History shows that since the reformed nomination process came into existence in 1972, no candidate who has won both of these early contests has failed to win his party’s nomination.

Yet, hardly anyone, with the probable exceptions of those candidates themselves and their most fervent followers, believes either Trump or Sanders will actually be their party’s nominee.

The main reason for this widespread skepticism is that the respective party leaders really, really don’t want these men to win, no matter what the polls might show.

In Trump’s case, GOP leaders are actively trying to derail his candidacy, fearing that the longer he stays in the race – God forbid should he actually win the nomination! – the more toxic his effect will be on the Republican Party’s chances of winning the general election 14 months hence.

In Sanders’ case, party leaders are not actively trying to stop his candidacy, but no Democrat in either the U.S. House or U.S. Senate has endorsed him, virtually everyone there fearing that as an avowed socialist and 74-year-old man from Vermont, he simply can’t win in a general election.

The current polls dispute these fears, with both Trump and Sanders faring at least as well as their respective competitors in the hypothetical general election match-ups, and in some cases faring better...

http://www.imediaethics.org/donald-trump-bernie-sanders-and-the-improbable-polls-commentary/
 

dust1n

Zindīq
If Biden decides to inflict himself upon us, can Bernie crush him?

I think so. If you'll notice from the polls, Biden eats more into Hillary's numbers more so than he does Bernie's. If Biden actually runs, then it might split the Hillary camp, while Bernie's would be less so. It would probably help Bernie before it hurt him.
 
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