Bernie Sanders Running for US President

[dust1n]

"Solving" problems?
It's so cute when those who have done nothing in a field will lecture those who have about how it works.
I like his honesty & candor, but I doubt he could find his hat on his head in the dark.

Hmm, given this all to be true, he's still comes up on top for being the only candidate not actively ignore the problems.

 

[Revoltingest]

Hmm, given this all to be true, he's still comes up on top for being the only candidate not actively ignore the problems.

He does have that going for him.
Although, Paul is one other guy thinking outside the Big Two box.

 

[Revoltingest]

An interesting news item....
Hillary is the favorite among millionaire voters: Survey

 

[Shadow Wolf]

"Solving" problems?
It's so cute when those who have done nothing in a field will lecture those who have about how it works.
I like his honesty & candor, but I doubt he could find his hat on his head in the dark.

You don't have to have run a business to see how the system is viscous and ruthless to further down in class you go.
What I want to see is a politician acknowledge the fact that capitalism cannot exist without the poor. Without having the working poor here, you couldn't dollar-menu items. If the severely exploited nations weren't so poor, we wouldn't have a cheap anything. I want to see more politicians acknowledge that fact.

 

[Revoltingest]

You don't have to have run a business to see how the system is viscous and ruthless to further down in class you go.
What I want to see is a politician acknowledge the fact that capitalism cannot exist without the poor. Without having the working poor here, you couldn't dollar-menu items. If the severely exploited nations weren't so poor, we wouldn't have a cheap anything. I want to see more politicians acknowledge that fact.

Sure, sure, those not in business can observe problems.
But with no experience in this very complex area, their
solutions are typically ill considered.
One cannot understand chess or go just by reading books about'm.
This is why Bernie needs me as his running mate.

 

[Wirey]

Sure, sure, those not in business can observe problems.
But with no experience in this very complex area, their
solutions are typically ill considered.
One cannot understand chess or go just by reading books about'm.
This is why Bernie needs me as his running mate.

This is a train wreck I'd be overjoyed to support.

 

[Revoltingest]

This is a train wreck I'd be overjoyed to support.

Glorious it would be!

Our slogan would be "Dope & Strange".

 

[Wirey]

That was one shoddily constructed trestle.

 

[TurkeyOnRye]

Hmm, given this all to be true, he's still comes up on top for being the only candidate not actively ignore the problems.

Or actively contributing to them.

 

[dust1n]

Or actively contributing to them.

Right, or actively benefiting in anyway from them.

 

[dust1n]

"With the help of a crew of former aides to President Barack Obama, Sen. Bernie Sanders' (I-Vt.) campaign has raised $3 million in four days for his presidential campaign -- a dramatic indication that he won’t be confined simply to a long-shot role in the Democratic primary.

Sanders, who is running for president as a Democrat, announced on Wednesday that he has retained the services of the firm Revolution Messaging to run digital ads and online fundraising. The staffers with the firm who will be working on Sanders’ campaign include Revolution Messaging’s founder, Scott Goodstein, who ran the 2008 Obama campaign's social media and mobile programs; Arun Chaudhary, who was the first official White House videographer; Shauna Daly, who served as deputy research director on Obama’s 2008 campaign; and Walker Hamilton, who was a lead programmer for that campaign.

"Like a lot of Obama supporters, we were looking for a candidate with a track record of doing the right thing -- even if it meant taking on Wall Street billionaires and other powerful interests. A candidate who could inspire a movement," said Goodstein. "Bernie Sanders is that candidate.""

Bernie Sanders Raises $3 Million In Four Days

"(CNN) -- Hillary Clinton may still hold a big lead in New Hampshire, but it is next-door-neighbor Sen. Bernie Sanders that makes the biggest jump in a WMUR Granite State Poll out Wednesday.

Sanders, an independent from Vermont, drew support from 13% of likely Democratic primary voters, according to the poll conducted by the University of New Hampshire Survey Center before Sanders' announced his candidacy for president last month. The senator's support doubled from a February poll by the same group that found 6% of Democratic primary voters supported the independent.

Clinton is still the overwhelming favorite in the state with 51% support. And despite repeatedly saying she isn't running for president, Sen. Elizabeth Warren garnered 20% support from those polled."

Poll: Bernie Sanders gains ground in New Hampshire - WICU12 HD WSEE Erie, PA News, Sports, Weather, Events

 

[Shadow Wolf]

It still pains me that he is running as a Democrat. I have defended him as the only congressional member with that awful D or R attached to his name, and how he is running with that god awful D on his name. It's not as bad as the R, who tends to be believe in social Darwinism and who tend to promote the destruction and inequality that is inherent with free-market capitalism, but the D is a party that is corrupt, bought-and-paid-for by the wanna-be corporate overlords, and, in the end, is not worth an ounce of respect.
I get the issue of splitting the vote, but the Democrats and Repulicans are so far beyond redemption we need to abandon them entirely if we really want to send a message to the billionaire **** heads who think they are better than us just because they have a few more zeros in their bank account than us.
If anything, we should send a big **** YOU!!!!! to Bernie for running as a Democrat!

 

[dust1n]

It still pains me that he is running as a Democrat. I have defended him as the only congressional member with that awful D or R attached to his name, and how he is running with that god awful D on his name. It's not as bad as the R, who tends to be believe in social Darwinism and who tend to promote the destruction and inequality that is inherent with free-market capitalism, but the D is a party that is corrupt, bought-and-paid-for by the wanna-be corporate overlords, and, in the end, is not worth an ounce of respect.
I get the issue of splitting the vote, but the Democrats and Repulicans are so far beyond redemption we need to abandon them entirely if we really want to send a message to the billionaire **** heads who think they are better than us just because they have a few more zeros in their bank account than us.
If anything, we should send a big **** YOU!!!!! to Bernie for running as a Democrat!

Do you think this fact is going to corrupt Bernie?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Do you think this fact is going to corrupt Bernie?

The Democrats are so corrupt that it is folly to assume there aren't larger forces at play. Ds and Rs are both corrupt, both for sale, both bought, and neither one is worthy of being trusted. If anything, Bernie running as a D proves that humans are humans are you can't expect them to live up to your expectations. I thought Bernie was cool, because he was the only member of congress without the despicable R or D attached to his name, but having a D attached to his name definitely hurts his credibility. In all reality, in all honesty, either way he doesn't stand a chance. Why should he sell his soul to have such a nasty letter attached to his name when the lack of either letter is what has made him so worthy of mention?

 

[Revoltingest]

The Democrats are so corrupt that it is folly to assume there aren't larger forces at play. Ds and Rs are both corrupt, both for sale, both bought, and neither one is worthy of being trusted. If anything, Bernie running as a D proves that humans are humans are you can't expect them to live up to your expectations. I thought Bernie was cool, because he was the only member of congress without the despicable R or D attached to his name, but having a D attached to his name definitely hurts his credibility. In all reality, in all honesty, either way he doesn't stand a chance. Why should he sell his soul to have such a nasty letter attached to his name when the lack of either letter is what has made him so worthy of mention?

Suppose that Bernie's only real chance of winning is to run as a Dem. but he'd have to moderate his views somewhat.
Which is the more ethical choice.....
1) To run as a Dem, & implement his agenda to the extent possible.
2) To run as a socialist, & lose to Hillary (the favored candidate of millionaires).
Hillary is the favorite among millionaire voters: Survey

Perhaps Bernie deserves some slack for picking #1, eh?

 

[metis]

It still pains me that he is running as a Democrat. I have defended him as the only congressional member with that awful D or R attached to his name, and how he is running with that god awful D on his name. It's not as bad as the R, who tends to be believe in social Darwinism and who tend to promote the destruction and inequality that is inherent with free-market capitalism, but the D is a party that is corrupt, bought-and-paid-for by the wanna-be corporate overlords, and, in the end, is not worth an ounce of respect.
I get the issue of splitting the vote, but the Democrats and Repulicans are so far beyond redemption we need to abandon them entirely if we really want to send a message to the billionaire **** heads who think they are better than us just because they have a few more zeros in their bank account than us.
If anything, we should send a big **** YOU!!!!! to Bernie for running as a Democrat!

His explanation why he's doing this is because it would be too difficult to run as an independent nationally, and I do believe he's correct on this. On top of that, third-party candidates tend to get buried in the scrapbook of American history.

 

[MysticSang'ha]

If he plays his cards right, i see him being a favorite during the primaries. If he brings the moderates into the fold against Hillary, that is.

I personally favor him over Hillary. I still am unable to forgive the Clinton name.

 

[dust1n]

The Democrats are so corrupt that it is folly to assume there aren't larger forces at play. Ds and Rs are both corrupt, both for sale, both bought, and neither one is worthy of being trusted. If anything, Bernie running as a D proves that humans are humans are you can't expect them to live up to your expectations. I thought Bernie was cool, because he was the only member of congress without the despicable R or D attached to his name, but having a D attached to his name definitely hurts his credibility. In all reality, in all honesty, either way he doesn't stand a chance. Why should he sell his soul to have such a nasty letter attached to his name when the lack of either letter is what has made him so worthy of mention?

Well, I see the letter beside a number wholly arbitrary in comparison to what legislation they will support or will not support, and what issues fall within an individual's priorities. Certainly it is disappointing that we have no proportional voting system in America... if it did, there would be far more than 2 parties in office. However, I just don't see how taking this Democrat label for the sake of election means anything about Bernie, since as I far as I can tell, there are no actual requirements to join, nor do I expect it to change any of his policy stances. If Bernie goes Independent, it's Bernie v. Clinton v. Repub. Who does that help? If Bernie beats Clinton in the Democratic Primaries, the election becomes Bernie v. Repub. It seems to me that Bernie running democrat increases his chance of winning and decreases the chance of the party that is just as equally or far worse more corrupt than Democrats.

 

[Revoltingest]

Well, I see the letter beside a number wholly arbitrary in comparison to what legislation they will support or will not support, and what issues fall within an individual's priorities. Certainly it is disappointing that we have no proportional voting system in America... if it did, there would be far more than 2 parties in office. However, I just don't see how taking this Democrat label for the sake of election means anything about Bernie, since as I far as I can tell, there are no actual requirements to join, nor do I expect it to change any of his policy stances. If Bernie goes Independent, it's Bernie v. Clinton v. Repub. Who does that help? If Bernie beats Clinton in the Democratic Primaries, the election becomes Bernie v. Repub. It seems to me that Bernie running democrat increases his chance of winning and decreases the chance of the party that is just as equally or far worse more corrupt than Democrats.

If Bernie gets elected, I'll invite him to visit Revoltistan for a tour of our cultural treasures. (They're not all machine tools.)

 

[dust1n]

If Bernie gets elected, I'll invite him to visit Revoltistan for a tour of our cultural treasures. (They're not all machine tools.)

I'm sure Michigan and Vermont have plenty in common.