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Bernie Sanders Running for US President

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http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/11/opinions/jillette-presidential-candidate-videos/

Bernie Sanders
: I'm a capitalist. I'm for trying to solve every problem with more freedom and not more government. I'm for more freedom even if more freedom causes problems. I think the Koch brothers have a right to free speech. I like what the Kochs did to help gay rights. A Koch-funded hospital might have saved my buddy's life, and certainly helped him walk again.

I disagree with KoBros a lot, but probably less with them than I disagree with Bernie Sanders -- it's hard to measure. It's like comparing Vermont apples and billions of barrels of oil. Bernie is kind of a socialist and I'm kinda not. He's for big government, and I'm not. He thinks central planning can solve problems and I think even if central planning could solve problems, I'm against it.

It's the freedom thing. I'm a New Englander, a Western Masshole from right near New Hampshire and Vermont, and I'm much more of a New Hampshire, free-state guy than a People's Republic of Vermont guy.

All that being said -- if I had nothing to go on other than these announcements, Bernie would have my vote wrapped up. I'm shocked by that. I've always just dismissed him as not my kind of nut. But checking my heart, it seems I'd rather have ideas that I disagree with then no ideas at all. He doesn't look like he's selling peanut butter or douche. He doesn't sound like he's selling a Marvel comics movie. He seems like he wants to talk about how we should govern ourselves and he knows we can disagree without being evil.

If these candidates are my only choices (and they are not!), I would vote for Bernie if for no other reason than he didn't offer me hope, and he didn't make me feel that if I voted for him, I would win something. He made me feel like we should talk about government.

I have no idea how these videos will affect the people, but I was shocked by how they affected this one person.

Bernie? That's gotta change, right?

Wall Street warns Hillary Clinton: Don’t be like Ed Miliband - Ben White - POLITICO

NEW YORK — Wall Street has a message for bank-bashing U.S. populist politicians: Put down the pitchforks or you could end up like Ed Miliband.

Senior financial executives say the Labour leader’s anti-bank, soak the rich rhetoric helped sink his party in the United Kingdom elections and assure a surprisingly big reelection win for Prime Minister David Cameron and his Conservative Party last week. Miliband resigned as Labour leader following the loss.


These bankers and their ideological supporters say if likely Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton keeps tacking to the left on Wall Street issues — as Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren, other progressive Democrats and Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) are demanding — she could face the same fate.

“Cameron embraced the role of the financial sector in growing the U.K. economy and creating jobs, never once criticizing hedge funds, banks or the wealthy,” said a top executive at one of Wall Street’s largest firms. “Miliband ran against hedge funds and bankers, promising bonus and mansion taxes and lost big. Is that a lesson for Hillary as well?”

This executive, like several others who cited the U.K. election result as a warning to populists, declined to be identified by name or firm for fear of heavy backlash...

YouGov | One third of millennials view socialism favorably

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YOUR WEEK IN BERNIE:


"Presidential hopeful Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) is pressing President Obama to act again to give a pay raise to the lowest earning employees of firms who do business with the federal government.

Sanders, backed by a group of Senate Democrats, wants the president to take executive action directing government agencies to give preference to contractors who pay "a living wage," which would give them an advantage when competing for
government contracts.

The senators don't specify a wage they believe companies should have to pay their workers in order to get preference when applying for government contracts, but Sanders has previously suggested a $15 per hour national minimum wage.

“The federal government continues to be America’s largest low-wage job creator, subsidizing poverty-level wages through taxpayer-funded contracts,” the senators wrote Friday in a letter to Obama. "We therefore call on you to issue an executive order giving preference in government contracting to 'model employers' who pay a living wage, offer fair healthcare and retirement benefits.""

Bernie Sanders pushes new pay hike for federal contractors | TheHill

"Sen. Bernie Sanders' presidential campaign is the first such effort by a democratic socialist since Norman Thomas waged the last of his six such campaigns on the Socialist Party ticket in 1948. It's about time.

Historically, the role of the two great American socialist standard-bearers Eugene Debs and Thomas, and such socialist members of Congress as Meyer London and Ronald Dellums, was to advance ideas that their progressive compatriots were sometimes able to enact — partially — years or decades later, or that later were transformed into common sense.

Running for president in 1904, Debs campaigned for the eight-hour workday, social insurance and women's suffrage. Representing New York's Lower East Side in Congress during the 1910s, London introduced legislation to create paid maternity leave, something Congress still has yet to get around to.

In 1942, Thomas was virtually the only prominent American to publicly oppose the internment of Japanese Americans.

What distinguished the socialists from their contemporaries during the Progressive era and the New Deal was their belief that capitalism was inherently unjust and unsustainable.

But the very reforms pushed through by European socialists and their American socialist, progressive and liberal counterparts created a more social capitalism — a capitalism with unions, social insurance and prohibitions on speculation — that was to prove sustainable for a time.

After World War II, the socialist parties of Europe and American socialist intellectuals such as Michael Harrington no longer advocated nationalizing the means of production. They advocated, rather, for an expanded social rights agenda — free medical care, for instance — and civil rights.

A. Philip Randolph, Bayard Rustin and Martin Luther King Jr. — the architect, organizer and visionary of the 1963 March on Washington — were democratic socialists.

But the more egalitarian U.S. economy of the postwar decades has given way to a far grimmer one today, in which new jobs pay poverty wages and just two art auctions at Christie's last week can entice the rich to part with more than $1.3 billion. Debs would find much of today's United States disorientingly familiar.

Young Americans, who may have heard their nation once had a middle-class majority but have never experienced it themselves, may have no clear idea what socialism is, but they have a grimly accurate read on contemporary capitalism.

A Pew poll shows 46% of 18- to 29-year-olds have a positive view of capitalism, but 47% were negative. When asked about socialism, 49% saw it positively and 43% negatively."

Socialist Bernie Sanders Brings Something Different To The Race - Investors.com


"WASHINGTON, D.C. – In a Senate floor speech today opposing a proposed Trans-Pacific Partnership trade agreement, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) recited a litany of bogus claims by previous trade deal backers which turned out to be wildly inaccurate.

Backers of the North American Free Trade Agreement, Permanent Normal Trade Relations with China and other business-backed trade deals claimed that they would generate jobs in the United States. In fact, economists now say, those pacts were a major reason why some 60,000 American factories closed since the turn of the century as manufacturers shifted jobs to low-wage nations overseas.

“These folks have been proven wrong time after time after time,” Sanders said.

President Bill Clinton, for example, claimed in 1993 that NAFTA would create 1 million jobs in the first five years. What really happened was that NAFTA led to the loss of more than 680,000 U.S. jobs, according to the Economic Policy Institute.

While Clinton was wrong, he wasn’t alone. The Heritage Foundation claimed in 1993 that “virtually all economists agree that NAFTA will produce a net increase of U.S. jobs over the next decade.” Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), now the Senate Republican leader, confidently but inaccurately predicted that “American firms will not move to Mexico just for lower wages.”

What happened? “It turns out they were dead wrong,” Sanders said. The year before NAFTA was implemented the United States had a trade surplus with Mexico of more than $1.6 billion. Last year, the trade deficit with Mexico was $53 billion.

Similar spurious claims were made in 1999 and 2000 by proponents of Permanent Normal Trade Relations with China about how that pact would open up the Asian market to American-made products. “The agreement will create unprecedented opportunities for American farmers, workers and companies to compete successfully in China’s market,” Clinton asserted. CATO Institute economists asserted that “the silliest argument against PNTR is that Chinese imports would overwhelm U.S. industry. In fact … PNTR would create far more export opportunities for America than the Chinese.”

What happened? The Economic Policy Institute says the trade agreement with China has led to the net loss of more than 2.7 million American jobs. The trade deficit with China has increased from $83 billion in 2001 to a record-breaking $342 billion in 2014.

Similar predictions were made by the U.S. Chamber of Commerce to tout a trade deal with South Korea that the chamber claimed would create some 280,000 U.S. jobs. In fact, according to the Economic Policy Institute, the deal led to the loss of some 75,000 jobs and the U.S. trade deficit with South Korea has gone from $16.6 billion in 2012 to $25 billion in 2014.

“And now … the administration says trust us. Forget about those other trade agreements. The TPP is special. This time it will be different. This one really will create jobs, despite the fact that every major organization representing the working people of this country says the exact opposite,” Sanders said in the Senate speech. “The TPP would force American workers to compete against desperate workers in Vietnam who make 56 cents an hour. We have got to do better than that‎.”

He spoke before the Senate voted on whether to begin full-fledged debate on legislation that would grant President Barack Obama an up-or-down vote, without amendments, on the controversial trade deal."

‘They were wrong then. They’re wrong now,’ Sanders says of trade deal backers - VTDigger
 

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So, Bernie Sanders took questions on Reddit today, here's some of them:

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littlenicky174 492 points 8 hours ago

Senator Sanders,

As a young political science student it seems many of my peers are feeling increasingly disenfranchised from politics as a whole, particularly due to increasing corporate influences in politics. But realistically what can be achieved when these interest are so intertwined with current political campaigns and current issues? Is there a way to separate these interests within a political system that seems to depend on the very same interests?

Also is it seems many Americans have a negative knee-jerk reaction to social democracy ideals, even if they may be beneficial to our society. Do you think there is a way we can discuss these issues that can bring in more people to the conversation?

Thank you for taking the time to do this AMA senator.

bernie-sanders[S] 1090 points 7 hours ago

Excellent questions. You are right. People in general and young people in particular are increasingly alienated and disillusioned with the political process. The middle class is disappearing, the rich get richer, young people cannot afford college, the crisis of climate change is ignored, and Congress continues on its merry way paying attention to the needs of billionaires and multinational corporations. The truth is that we are in a very difficult political moment. But despair of giving up is just not an option. I would not be doing what I am doing if I did not believe that this country could provide health care to all as a right; that we could lead the world in transforming our energy system and dealing with climate change; that we could make education affordable for all. My strong belief is that it is imperative that we maintain our vision of what American can be, and that we fight hard to make that happen. DO NOT GIVE UP.

acScience 228 points 7 hours ago*

This response moved me. I've realized recently that I've become totally cynical and hopeless with the state of politics in this country. I haven't felt like my voice is being heard, even though my voice is matched by that of my under-35 year old peers.

It's just made me so apathetic, and I know that that's the most dangerous thing that can happen.

Thank you for reminding me that there are actually sane, rationally thinking, honest individuals out there that want to represent me. Now if we can just pull together and get you elected!!
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Cicatricks 3657 points 8 hours agox2

Hey Bernie, thanks for doing this. Huge fan in the PNW!

According to Votesmart.org in:

  • 2012, you voted to decrease spending on space exploration

  • 2000, you voted to decrease funding to NASA

  • 1996, you voted to decrease budget for NASA
What, if anything, has or will convince you to provide more funding to NASA in the future?

Numerous breakthroughs in recent years and promosing technologies being developed and brought to market have made it obvious that, outer space treaty what it is, the first trillionaires will be made in space. Wouldn't it be best if the American People were part of that?

Fire2Ice 699 points 8 hours ago

Votes like this are almost always part of wider packages of legislation.

For example, farm subsidies and food stamps (SNAP) are always packaged as a single piece of legislation to get both passed. Many rural republican legislators oppose food stamps, but vote for the entire package because it gives financial aid to their farming constituents (/campaign contributing agribusinesses).

IE, I'm disappointed to read that Senator Sanders has voted to decrease NASA funding, but I have a feeling this was not the entirety of the up/down vote. Hopefully somebody else with more time on their hands can clarify exactly.

paistywhiteboy 79 points 4 hours ago*

The cut Bernie voted for in 2000 was an amendment to defund the ISS tacked on to the standard appropriations act for veteran's affairs and housing and urban development.

Edit: I've been digging around, and this article from Space.com leads me to believe that the cuts that Sanders voted for in 2012 to NASA's budget (which anyone who voted to approve the 2013 budget would have "voted for") were consistent with the 5% across-the-board cuts that resulted from the budget sequestration that was passed in 2011(which Bernie voted against).

bernie-sanders[S] 4200 points 8 hours ago

I am supportive of NASA not only because of the excitement of space exploration, but because of all the additional side benefits we receive from research in that area. Sometimes, and frankly I don't remember all of those votes, one is put in a position of having to make very very difficult choices about whether you vote to provide food for hungry kids or health care for people who have none and other programs. But, in general, I do support increasing funding for NASA.

ViperRT10Matt 3812 points 7 hours ago

Whelp, you actually answered the non-PR-friendly question. This puts you way ahead of most of the AMAs around here.

EightsOfClubs 423 points 7 hours ago

Bernie, as someone who gets their paycheck indirectly from that NASA funding, you've got my vote (and already donations from both my wife and I).

... just don't cut existing programs.. please."


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ImLivingAmongYou 881 points 8 hours ago*

Mr. Sanders, I'm a big fan of futurology and I am a moderator of the subreddit /r/futurology.

What do you think will have to be done regarding massive unemployment due to automation permanently killing jobs with no fault on the people losing these jobs? This video is the best one discussing these issues.

bernie-sanders[S] 1479 points 7 hours ago

Very important question. There is no question but that automation and robotics reduce the number of workers needed to produce products. On the other hand, there is a massive amount of work that needs to be done in this country. Our infrastructure is crumbling and we can create millions of decent-paying jobs rebuilding our roads, bridges, rail system, airports, levees, dams, etc. Further, we have enormous shortages in terms of highly-qualified pre-school educators and teachers. We need more doctors, nurses, dentists and medical personnel if we are going to provide high-quality care to all of our people. But, in direct response to the question, increased productivity should not punish the average worker, which is why we have to move toward universal health care, making higher education available to all, a social safety net which is strong and a tax system which is progressive."

"ynmidk 934 points 8 hours ago

In 2014 you expressed that the decriminalisation of recreational marijuana use is “not a major issue”, but also added that you would “look into it”.

The freedom to alter ones own state of consciousness, whilst doing no harm to others, is something that many people deem to be a basic human right. The prison-industrial complex, and pharmaceutical monopolies that have been erected around prohibition of consciousness altering, pain relieving, but otherwise benign drugs seems to be the epitome of what you stand against.

I’d imagine that you have refrained from speaking on this issue for fear of it being used as ammunition by your "opponents”, but could you update us on your position regarding the war on drugs?

Thanks!

bernie-sanders[S] 1880 points 7 hours ago

Let me just say this -- the state of Vermont voted to decriminalize the possession of small amounts of marijuana and I support that. I have supported the use of medical marijuana. And when I was mayor of Burlington, in a city with a large population, I can tell you very few people were arrested for smoking marijuana. Our police had more important things to do.

Colorado has led the effort toward legalizing marijuana and I'm going to watch very closely to see the pluses and minuses of what they have done. I will have more to say about this issue within the coming months.
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"theonlyotheruser 770 points 8 hours ago

Senator Sanders,

I am a transgender US Army Soldier with a decade of service. A recent study revealed that there are approximately 15,500 transgender personnel currently serving in the US Military. Current Department of Defense policies prevent us from serving openly, but the policy is under review.

What are your thoughts regarding transgender rights generally, and open transgender military service specifically?

bernie-sanders[S] 1240 points 7 hours ago

As somebody who has consistently voted to end discrimination in all forms -- who voted against DOMA way back in the 1990s -- I will do all that I can to continue our efforts to make this a nondiscriminatory society, whether those being discriminated against are transgender, gay, black or Hispanic.

Umimum 322 points 7 hours ago

I fully expected you to be extremely selective with what you'd answer in this AMA. It's awesome seeing how real you are at answering all these questions.

Minion_of_Cthulhu 54 points 6 hours ago

I haven't followed Bernie's political career for very long but the one thing that I noticed right away is that he answers questions directly, and often bluntly, without dancing around the topic and playing political double-speak games. Ask Bernie a question and you'll get a straight answer.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/path%3D%252Fr%252FIAmA%252Fcomments%252F36j690%252Fi_am_senator_bernie_sanders_democratic_candidate%252Ft3_36j690
 

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A few more:

"Nitroxium 478 points 8 hours ago*

Hi Bernie, hispanic college kid here, thanks so much for doing this AMA... Two quick questions!

  1. Do you approve of the way the USA is handling their relationship with Latin America currently? Considering recent trade deals, the drug wars amongst other things have been hurting the region, do you think there is any way of changing the way the US relates itself to Latin America for a more mutually beneficial relationship?

  2. What is your opinion on the fact that the DNC has scheduled only six debates for the primaries? Since it's important to get the issues out there and get yourself to be known by the people, do you think six debates are enough? And if not, is your team working on making sure there are more?
bernie-sanders[S] 792 points 8 hours ago

  1. Great question. Given the fact that Latin America is our next-door neighbor, I have been very distressed about the lack of attention that we have paid to Latin America. I applaud President Obama's effort to normalize relations with Cuba, a country which I have visited on several occasions. But I think much more can be done to bring the United States and Latin America closer and to improve relationships with a continent that faces many economic and social problems.

  2. No I don't think six debates are enough and we will be interacting with the DNC to try to create a situation where we have as many debates as possible. There are huge issues facing our country. Candidates are entitled to different points of view. The American people need to hear a serious discussion on these issues, so I hope there will be far more debates than what the DNC has proposed."

"chr0s 10 points 8 hours ago

Is it true you're going to cut the BS and be known henceforth as Ernie Anders?
"
 

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Other BERNIE NEWS:

America's Views Align Surprisingly Well With Those of "Socialist" Bernie Sanders | Mother Jones

"Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont, a self-described socialist, is an extremely long shot to defeat Hillary Rodham Clinton in the Democratic presidential primary. Does that mean his views on key political issues are too radical for America's voters? Not necessarily. Here's how his policy positions actually fare in the polls:

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Sanders: Describes himself as a democratic socialist.

His fellow Americans: While only 31 percent of Americans react positively to the word "socialism," just 50 percent view "capitalism" in favorable terms, according to a recent Pew survey. Among 18- to 29-year-olds, nearly half had a positive view of "socialism," while only 47 percent viewed "capitalism" favorably.


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Sanders: Famously filibustered the 2010 extension of Bush tax cuts for wealthy Americans.

His fellow Americans: In a February poll, 68 percent of likely voters said wealthy households pay too little in federal taxes.


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Sanders: Introduced the Responsible Estate Tax Act last year. If passed, it would raise top estate tax rates and expand the tax to include estates worth more than $3.5 million. (It currently only applies to those worth more than $5.4 million, which covers only 0.2 percent of American estates.)

His fellow Americans: Results vary, but Kevin Drum notes that the estate tax (conservatives call it the "death tax") is generally unpopular.


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Sanders: Introduced legislation that would crack down on offshore tax havens by requiring American companies to pay the top corporate tax rate on profits held abroad.

His fellow Americans: Eighty-five percent of small business owners favor closing overseas tax loopholes entirely, while 68 percent of Americans believe "we should close tax loopholes for large corporations that ship jobs offshore."


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Sanders: Advocates a constitutional amendment that would effectively prevent corporations from making political donations. Supports public funding of elections.

His fellow Americans: Most Americans believe that corporations should have at least some limited right to make political donations. Even so, in a 2013 Gallup poll, half of the respondents said they would personally vote for banning all political donations from individuals and private groups and shifting to a government-funded campaign finance system. Only 44 percent would oppose such a law.


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Sanders: Cosponsored the 2013 Climate Protection Act, which would tax carbon and methane emissions and rebate three-fifths of the revenue to citizens.

His fellow Americans: Sixty-four percent of Americans strongly or somewhat favor regulating greenhouse gas emissions from power plants, factories and cars, and requiring utilities to generate more power from low-carbon sources. However, only 34 percent of Americans support a carbon tax with a $500 rebate.


Health Care
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Sanders: Advocates for a single-payer health care system.

His fellow Americans: A January 2015 poll found that just over 50 percent of likely voters support single-payer.


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Sanders: The big banks "are too powerful to be reformed," Sanders says on his website. "They must be broken up."

His fellow Americans: A recent poll by the Progressive Change Institute found that 58 percent of likely voters support "breaking up big banks like Citigroup."


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Sanders: Introduced legislation this month to make public college tuition free in the United States.

His fellow Americans: Sixty-three percent of likely voters support President Obama's proposal to offer qualifying students two free years of community college. No recent polls have tested support for offering free tuition at four-year colleges and universities.


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Sanders: Opposes the Trans Pacific Partnership and similar trade deals.

His fellow Americans: Sixty-two percent of voters oppose fast-track authority for the TPP trade deal, but fewer Americans oppose the agreement itself. A 2014 Pew poll put support for the TPP among Americans at 55 percent.


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Sanders: Supports a federal law mandating equal pay for equal work.

His fellow Americans: Most Americans agree that women face pay discrimination, but only about one-third favor addressing the problem via legislation.


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Sanders: Supports raising the minimum wage to $15 an hour "over the next few years."

His fellow Americans: Sixty-three percent of Americans support raising the minimum wage to $15 by 2020.


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Sanders: Supports legislation allowing workers to form a union by signing pledge cards.

His fellow Americans: A Gallup poll conducted in 2009, when card check legislation was being debated in Congress, found that 53 percent of Americans "favor a new law that would make it easier for labor unions to organize workers."


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Sanders: "Instead of cutting Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and nutrition programs," Sanders writes on his website, "we should be expanding these programs."

His fellow Americans: Some polls have found that majorities of voters want to expand Social Security. A poll conducted last year showed that even voters in red states want to expand Medicaid."



"On the Democratic side Hillary Clinton leads with 63% to 13% for Bernie Sanders, 6% for Jim Webb, 5% for Lincoln Chafee, and 2% for Martin O'Malley. Clinton's over 60% with liberals, moderates, women, whites, African Americans, and seniors and is at least over 50% with men, Hispanics, and young voters. Sanders continues to be the clear second choice among Democratic voters- 28% name him as their first or second choice with no one else in the second tier exceeding 11% on that measure."

Walker Still Leads Nationally, Clinton Over 60% - Public Policy Polling

"Bernie Sanders makes sense. That is why I, as a medical doctor, support his views on health care reform and why he will be a great president. And we must not let anyone representing the 1 percent get us hung up on the label during the primaries. He is certainly not a socialist. As a Democrat I agree that he embodies the best in that party, but even if you call him an independent, he has the best interests of 100 percent of the country in mind. And he has the vision and political craftsmanship to achieve his goal.

All it will take is just over half of the voters choosing Mr. Sanders. Of course it has to be the majority that will tip the electoral college, and no interference from hanging chads and so on. The country needs everyone to get out and vote for Senator Sanders in this one to overcome those past heartbreaks. In spite of our troubles, we have made real progress in the past eight years. We cannot afford to let that promise slip away.

Dr. James Burdick is a professor of surgery at the Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine. He is writing a book detailing his plan for patient-centered health reform. His email is [email protected]."

Bernie Sanders for the win - Baltimore Sun

How Bernie Sanders won the talk radio primary | MSNBC

Bernie Sanders' Koch Killing Movement Grows To $4 Million and 100,000 Contributors

"I think there is more discontent with establishment politics, with the greed of corporate America than many people perceive. I think we have a good shot. I am not going to deny for one moment that I go into this race an underdog. Hillary Clinton will have a lot more money than we have. But let me say this, even in terms of money, we’ve been in this race for a couple of weeks, and we’ve raised over $4 million, because people are sending on average, not a million dollars, not ten thousand dollars. Forty-three dollars per contributor to berniesanders.com. We have now 100,000 contributions.

Sen. Sanders promised to hold a civil debate with former Sec. of State Hillary Clinton, but he openly questioned whether the media would give them coverage if they focused on issues instead of tearing each other apart.

Bernie Sanders is not running a vanity campaign. Unlike many of those who are running for the Republican nomination, his candidacy is not a stunt that is being done for personal financial gain and publicity. Sanders is running because there is no other candidate that is expressing hardcore liberal positions."
 

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And finally:

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/19/u...esident-but-hes-already-facebook-royalty.html

By the way, I've always loved how NYTimes uses Mr. and Mrs. when using ones name. It's aesthetic choice that is awesome.

"WASHINGTON — The quotations he posts, rarely pithy, are often sayings he thinks up in the shower. The photographs he puts up sometimes show him frowning, while others show him gazing oddly into the horizon. And he does not seem to care about the importance of videos.

But somehow, Bernie Sanders, the 73-year-old senator from Vermont, has emerged as a king of social media early in the 2016 presidential campaign, amid a field of tech-savvy contenders.

His Facebook posts attract tens of thousands of likes and shares, and threads about him often break through to the home page of Reddit, where the cluster of topics rarely focuses on presidential election politics.

“I’m a grumpy old guy,” Mr. Sanders joked when explaining his approach to posting online. “I know that people talk about their cats and ‘I’m walking to the grocery store and getting a can of chicken soup’ and ‘this is so exciting.’ By and large, we have not done that.”

Mr. Sanders’s prominence online is all the more improbable given that he does not do many things the way social media experts say they should be done.

He has not shied away from posts of 300 words or more, with a “continue reading here” link to his personal website.

Mr. Sanders, an independent who describes himself as a socialist, has stuck to an idiosyncratic method: posting images that share a quotation, which he has either written himself or dug up from a historical figure and then superimposed onto a photograph. (President Theodore Roosevelt and President Dwight D. Eisenhower are among those he has recently cited.)

Social networking sites like Facebook recommend that when users post text, they do so with searchable words that would be attractive to newsfeed algorithms and search engines.

But Mr. Sanders’s team rarely uses buzzy introductory text when sharing his posts, leaving the chances of their going viral to users who stumble upon them. Fortunately for Mr. Sanders, who is seeking the Democratic nomination, he has loyal followers who somehow always know how to find his latest musing.

Take, for example, a block quotation that advocates making Election Day a national holiday. It is posted atop a stock photo of ballot boxes. And it contains no searchable text. Still, it received nearly 100,000 likes and 22,000 shares. By comparison, Hillary Rodham Clinton’s video announcing her presidential candidacy received over 79,000 likes and 41,000 shares.

“He can post a quote graphic or a long text-only Facebook status, and it doesn’t really matter what the algorithm favors,” said Laura Olin, who was in charge of the much-praised social media strategy for President Obama’s 2012 campaign.

“If it sounds like him,” she said, “his people will find it and spread it.”

And the reason Bernie Sanders’s posts sounds like him is that, for the most part, they are from Bernie Sanders. He often comes to his Senate office with quotations at the ready.

“Usually, it’s in the shower where something pops into my head,” Mr. Sanders said, adding, “I play a very, very active role in writing, literally writing, what goes up there on Facebook.”

And unlike many candidates, he does not share warm details of his daily life. “People don’t need to know what I buy in the grocery store or what the name of my dog is — I don’t own a dog, by the way — but they do need to know why billionaires are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer.”

A former journalist who began sending newsletters to his constituents in the early 1990s, Mr. Sanders relishes writing. He carries yellow legal pads with him wherever he goes, “for a little jabbering,” and their contents are often turned verbatim into a posting.

A typical quotation from him on his Facebook page, which often deals with income inequality, says, “We must rebuild American manufacturing and rewrite our trade agreements so that our largest export is not our jobs.”

“I think the people that have the most success on Facebook, they’re developing an authentic method and sticking to it,” said Anton Vuljaj, director of advertising at IMGE, a consulting firm. “He’s matching what he’s saying online to what he’s doing offline.”

While Mr. Sanders’s popularity cuts across social media platforms, it appears most pronounced on Facebook. He did not start his campaign with a big announcement event, and he did not enjoy the explosion of interest that Senator Ted Cruz of Texas and Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky experienced when they declared that they were seeking the Republican nomination.

Mr. Sanders had 1.3 million Facebook interactions, compared with 5.6 million for Mr. Cruz and two million for Mr. Paul, according to data provided by Facebook.

But since their announcements, the popularity of Mr. Cruz and Mr. Paul on Facebook has tempered, while Mr. Sanders’s has risen. In a seven-day stretch leading up to May 3, Mr. Sanders had 5.3 million interactions, compared with 1.2 million for Mr. Paul and 1.7 million for Mr. Cruz.

On Reddit, he is similarly popular. The site’s home page, which is powered by the so-called upvotes of users on a topic thread, is often filled with viral news and esoteric, humorous discussions; politics is often found only on a subreddit. But Mr. Sanders is one elected official who has on occasion leapt over the barrier.

Among politicians, he is one of the most frequent posters to the site, and nearly a quarter of the top most-voted politics posts of all time on Reddit are about or by Mr. Sanders.

But Mr. Sanders has not eclipsed everyone else in the 2016 field on the social media front. Mrs. Clinton’s videos are viewed by hundreds of thousands, Mr. Paul and Mr. Cruz have large and dedicated armies of supporters, and Jeb Bush has built a following by making most of his major announcements online.

But for a candidate who performs poorly in the polls, Mr. Sanders appears to be everywhere. And like many of his positions over the years, his social media tactics are unlikely to change with the times.

“I’m not some kind of tech nerd, I really am not,” Mr. Sanders said. “But I have always believed in communication, and not just photo ops and stuff, but educating people, and communicating with people about the real work that we’re doing.”"

Addicting Info – Everything Bernie Sanders Predicted In 2010 Has Come True Or Will Come True

"“The Republicans will tell you: Oh, we have a great plan to deal with it [deficit and debt]. We are giving tax breaks to millionaires. But now what we are going to have to do is start making deep cuts in Social Security, and that deficit reduction commission started paving the way for that, very substantial cuts in Social Security.” And what have we seen from Republicans in 2012, 2013, 2014 and this year? Plans to cut Social Security. In 2010, Sanders called it: Republicans will justify paying for these tax cuts by cutting Social Security benefits.

Five years ago, Bernie Sanders delivered a historic filibuster on corporate greed. Today, almost everything he predicted came true, and other predictions are on the horizon. For instance, he said, “I believe in the coming months you are going to see an intensification of efforts to expand unfettered free trade. I think that will be a continuation of a disastrous policy for American workers.” It took five years, but now it’s just a hair away from being a reality – the TPP.

My, how things really haven’t changed in the last 5 years. Everything Sanders stood for, affordable education, affordable healthcare, expanded infrastructure, etc. the Republicans have opposed and blocked. He said during his filibuster that the Republicans next move would be getting rid of the estate tax. Well, earlier this year, Republicans voted to do just that.

Sanders said , “I think if our goal is to create the millions and millions of jobs we need, and if our goal is to make our country stronger internationally in a very tough global economy, I would much prefer, and I think most economists would agree with me that a better way to do that, to create the millions of jobs we have to create, is to invest heavily in our infrastructure.”

What did the Republicans do? They filibustered meaningful infrastructure legislation. Then they had the audacity to say the Keystone XL Pipeline was an infrastructure plan for America. No roads, nor bridges, nor dams or railways…a pipeline.

I tend to follow the idea perfectly summed up by Sanders:

“This is the United States of America. Maybe I am old-fashioned. I think we can do it too. I think we can rebuild our rail system, make our country more efficient and create jobs.”

Sanders said, “Right now, it is extremely difficult for middle-class families to send their kids to college. Does anyone have any doubt whatsoever that our Republican friends are not going to come back here and say: Oh, we cannot afford to raise Pell Grants as we have in recent years. We cannot afford to support working families who have their kids in childcare. Cut. Cut.Cut.”

And what did Republicans do? Just 2 months after Sander’s speech, they voted to cut from Pell Grants and childcare the year after. But at least they got their tax breaks for millionaires and billionaires.

So let’s break this down.

Senator Sanders said the Republicans would pay for these tax breaks for millionaires and billionaires but cutting from Social Security. The voted to do just that. He said the Republicans would offset the cost by voting to cut Pell Grants and child care. They voted to do just that. He said they would hold infrastructure spending hostage. They did just that.

Long story short, Sanders has been 100% right in the last 5 years. Republicans got their tax breaks for their richest friends, and everyone else has been screwed over.

How Sanders Will Pay for Free College | PJ Tatler

Senator and Hillary Clinton presidential challenger Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) today introduced legislation to make four-year public universities totally free.

The 35-page College for All Act would give states $47 billion each year in federal grants to operate. These schools currently rake in about $70 billion in tuition each year, so states would be left to pick up a third of the tab.

“To qualify for federal funding, states must meet a number of requirements designed to protect students, ensure quality, and reduce ballooning costs. States will need to maintain spending on their higher education systems, on academic instruction, and on need-based financial aid. In addition, colleges and universities must reduce their reliance on low-paid adjunct faculty,” Sanders’ office said in a description of the bill. “States would be able to use funding to increase academic opportunities for students, hire new faculty, and provide professional development opportunities for professors. No funding under this program may be used to fund administrator salaries, merit-based financial aid, or the construction of non-academic buildings like stadiums and student centers.”

What’s the pay-for? A “Robin Hood tax” on Wall Street.

“This legislation is offset by imposing a Wall Street speculation fee on investment houses, hedge funds, and other speculators of 0.5% on stock trades (50 cents for every $100 worth of stock), a 0.1% fee on bonds, and a 0.005% fee on derivatives. It has been estimated that this provision could raise hundreds of billions a year which could be used not only to make tuition free at public colleges and universities in this country, it could also be used to create millions of jobs and rebuild the middle class of this country.”



Bernie Sanders Exposes 18 CEOs who took Trillions in Bailouts, Evaded Taxes and Outsourced Jobs

Here are the 18 CEO’s Sanders labeled job destroyers in his report. (All data from Top Corporate Dodgers report.)

1). 1. Bank of America CEO Brian Moynihan
Amount of federal income taxes paid in 2010? Zero. $1.9 billion tax refund.
Taxpayer Bailout from the Federal Reserve and the Treasury Department? Over $1.3 trillion.
Amount of federal income taxes Bank of America would have owed if offshore tax havens were eliminated? $2.6 billion.

2). Goldman Sachs CEO Lloyd Blankfein
Amount of federal income taxes paid in 2008? Zero. $278 million tax refund.
Taxpayer Bailout from the Federal Reserve and the Treasury Department? $824 billion.
Amount of federal income taxes Goldman Sachs would have owed if offshore tax havens were eliminated? $2.7 billion

3). JP Morgan Chase CEO James Dimon
Taxpayer Bailout from the Federal Reserve and the Treasury Department? $416 billion.
Amount of federal income taxes JP Morgan Chase would have owed if offshore tax havens were eliminated? $4.9 billion.

4). General Electric CEO Jeffrey Immelt
Amount of federal income taxes paid in 2010? Zero. $3.3 billion tax refund.
Taxpayer Bailout from the Federal Reserve? $16 billion.
Jobs Shipped Overseas? At least 25,000 since 2001.

5). Verizon CEO Lowell McAdam
Amount of federal income taxes paid in 2010? Zero. $705 million tax refund.
American Jobs Cut in 2010? In 2010, Verizon announced 13,000 job cuts, the third highest corporate layoff total that year.

6). Boeing CEO James McNerney, Jr.
Amount of federal income taxes paid in 2010? None. $124 million tax refund.
American Jobs Shipped overseas? Over 57,000.
Amount of Corporate Welfare? At least $58 billion.

7). Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer
Amount of federal income taxes Microsoft would have owed if offshore tax havens were eliminated? $19.4 billion.

8). Honeywell International CEO David Cote
Amount of federal income taxes paid from 2008-2010? Zero. $34 million tax refund.

9). Corning CEO Wendell WeeksAmount of federal income taxes paid from 2008-2010? Zero. $4 million tax refund.


10). Time Warner CEO Glenn Britt
Amount of federal income taxes paid in 2008? Zero. $74 million tax refund.

11). Merck CEO Kenneth Frazier
Amount of federal income taxes paid in 2009? Zero. $55 million tax refund.

12). Deere & Company CEO Samuel Allen
Amount of federal income taxes paid in 2009? Zero. $1 million tax refund.

13). Marsh & McLennan Companies CEO Brian Duperreault
Amount of federal income taxes paid in 2010? Zero. $90 million refund.

14). Qualcomm CEO Paul Jacobs

Amount of federal income taxes Qualcomm would have owed if offshore tax havens were eliminated? $4.7 billion.

15). Tenneco CEO Gregg Sherill

Amount of federal income taxes Tenneco would have owed if offshore tax havens were eliminated? $269 million.

16). Express Scripts CEO George Paz

Amount of federal income taxes Express Scripts would have owed if offshore tax havens were eliminated? $20 million.

17). Caesars Entertainment CEO Gary Loveman
Amount of federal income taxes Caesars Entertainment would have owed if offshore tax havens were eliminated? $9 million.

18). R.R. Donnelly & Sons CEO Thomas Quinlan IIIAmount of federal income taxes paid in 2008? Zero. $49 million tax refund.
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
That's a whole lot'o commies!
Does he have a chance?
Zero chance, Rev, but he will be quite helpful to Hill Hill in regards to which of his rantings actually gain traction with voters. She can then milk those lines for all their worth. Think of Saunders as the "Hill Hill Trial Balloon Guy".
 

dust1n

Zindīq
In other BS News:

"
PPING, N.H. — Fit and quick-witted at age 73, Senator Bernie Sanders was still going strong after speaking for an hour in 90-degree heat on Wednesday when he fielded a question from a man who could have been an older brother.

“Would you raise the top marginal tax rate to over 90 percent, as it was in the 1950s, when the middle class and the economy were doing so well?” asked Milt Lauenstein, 89, who had the same white hair and hunched posture as Mr. Sanders.

“You mean under the communist Dwight D. Eisenhower?” Mr. Sanders quipped about the former president, who, of course, was a Republican, but one who did not oppose high taxes as fiercely as party leaders do now.
It is not every day in 2015 that an Ike joke gets a laugh, but Mr. Sanders landed the line perfectly — at least for the roughly 50 older people in the crowd of 200 who came out to meet the candidate in a backyard here. It was the latest Sanders event to draw a sizable number of registered voters who share not only Mr. Sanders’s cultural reference points but also his age group.

Mr. Sanders, an independent from Vermont, is running an insurgent’s campaign for the Democratic nomination for president, but to spend time with him on the trail is almost to travel back in time: He sprinkles his remarks with “50 years ago” or “40 years ago” as he reminds his audiences of the progress in the United States on race relations or gay rights.

At one point during his remarks in Epping, Mr. Sanders drew a “yes” from Nina Capra Jordan when he commented that back in the first half of the 20thcentury, the University of California campuses, the City College of New York and other elite institutions charged little or no tuition. (Mr. Sanders wants to eliminate tuition at public universities nationwide and pay for it largely with revenue from taxes on Wall Street stock trades.)

Older voters seem to be responding. Some, facing financial strains now, seem especially drawn to the senator’s evoking of an earlier era’s more generous government and strong safety net.

“He’s like F.D.R.,” Marlene Gilman, 80, whispered excitedly in Concord, N.H., as Mr. Sanders pledged to create more jobs through a trillion-dollar public works program — a plan that echoes President Franklin D. Roosevelt’s New Deal."

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/29/us/politics/bernie-sanders-campaign.html?_r=0


It remains to be seen whether O’Malley will come out of the gate punching when he formally announces his bid Saturday.

But it’s Sanders, top strategists said, who could more likely disrupt the primary. Unless Clinton plays nice with them, Sanders’ supporters could refuse to enthusiastically support her campaign down the line.

“Iowa and New Hampshire are places where citizen politics still matters, and getting enthusiastic, energetic volunteers and campaign workers makes a huge difference,” said Kenneth Sherrill, professor emeritus of political science at Hunter College in New York. “I look at my Facebook feed, my Twitter feed, no one mentions Martin O’Malley. But Bernie Sanders enjoys a lot of affectionate enthusiasm. I see his supporters as people who will keep going in the face of adversity. Presidential primary activists are a strange breed, and primary candidates get a devoted following, one that’s sometimes even hard for the candidate to turn off when it’s all over.”

Clinton’s camp, so far, seems attuned to the need to avoid alienating Sanders’ constituency. After Sanders announced his presidential campaign last month, Clinton tweeted: “I agree with Bernie. Focus must be on helping America’s middle class. GOP would hold them back. I welcome him to the race.”

Whether they are merely seeking to lower expectations, or they feel threatened by the challengers in the race, Clinton campaign officials have said from Day One that they expect the primary to be more competitive than people assume and that they are taking nothing for granted.

In Iowa, activists have a natural affinity for Sanders, who will be campaigning in Kensett, a small town of 250 people, on Saturday.

“Bernie Sanders has something that politicians, especially the new breed, sometimes find wanting, and that is authenticity,” said Kurt Meyer, chairman of the northern Iowa tri-county Democratic Party. “There’s very little varnish there. That’s something that certainly appeals to rural Iowans.” In contrast, Meyer described O’Malley as “an effective administrator who says and does the right things and is a little more new school.”

Hillary Clinton camp fearful of Bernie Sanders - POLITICO

They were young, they were impressionable, maybe they sometimes hung out with the wrong crowd.

Not too long ago — okay, almost a quarter of a century ago — Rick Santorum and Bernie Sanders were freshmen together in the House. Sanders kicked off his presidential campaign Tuesday, and Santorum is expected to announce his bid Wednesday afternoon. These days, they don't agree on much: Santorum is about as far right as any candidate in the Republican field, and Sanders will define the left in the Democratic primary.

So what brought the socialist and the social conservative together? For starters, they were still trying to establish themselves politically. While Sanders won his first election fairly comfortably, running as an independent in a two-party system is no easy task. Santorum had beaten seven-term Democratic incumbent Doug Walgren by less than 5,000 votes out of more than 166,000 cast.

Santorum also showed a concern for the economic needs of the working class in his district, putting him in the same column as Sanders on issues such as winter heating assistance. And they both agreed on cutting funding for the National Endowment for Democracy, which had been accused of secretly tinkering with foreign elections.

For the most part, they found common ground on issues that were easy to sell back home. The intersection of their legislative Venn diagram included efforts to help veterans, require colleges to establish rights for victims of sexual assault on campus, and implement some congressional reforms. Thanks to the Library of Congress, we have a full list of what they co-sponsored in that first term.

  1. Classifying merchant mariners from the World War II era as active-duty veterans for the purposes of eligibility for benefits
  2. Boosting a variety of benefits for veterans and their families (public law 102-3)
  3. Killing US funding for the National Endowment for Democracy
  4. Setting a formula for grazing fees on public lands
  5. Deeming non-Hodgkin lymphoma and other diseases to be connected to exposure to Agent Orange and other toxins used in the Vietnam War (public law 102-4)
  6. Cutting interest rates on Stafford loans for graduates who became educators
  7. Making Persian Gulf War veterans eligible for wartime benefits
  8. Protecting charity volunteers from liability for work done on behalf of the nonprofit
  9. Requiring that organ donation information be provided on tax refunds
  10. Freezing pay for federal judges and eliminating four-year increases for members of Congress
  11. Permanently extending qualified mortgage bonds
  12. Establishing a congressional silver medal for Persian Gulf War veterans
  13. Requiring federal agencies to reveal information about American POWs from World War II, Korea, and Vietnam
  14. Setting paper recycling standards for the federal government (with an exemption for Congress)
  15. Killing duty-free status for certain shoes put together in foreign countries
  16. Establishing a presidential advisory committee on commemorative events (the idea was to reduce the amount of time Congress spent on legislation paving the way for presidential proclamations)
  17. Authorizing purple hearts for World War I, World War II, and Korean War veterans who were injured in captivity
  18. Establishing a campus sexual assault victims' bill of rights. The Congressional Research Service Summary: "Amends the Higher Education Act of 1965 (HEA) to require each eligible institution participating in any program under HEA title IV (Student Assistance) to include a statement of policy regarding the rights of victims of sexual assault, that complies with specified requirements, in its disclosure of campus security policy and campus crime statistics. Requires each institution of higher education to establish and implement a written policy establishing a campus sexual assault victims' bill of rights which provides that specified rights shall be accorded to such victims by all campus officers, administrators, and employees of such institution."
  19. Creating a 1994 USA World Cup commemorative coin
  20. Expediting FDA approval of lifesaving drugs and treatments
  21. Altering Medicare payment rules for physicians to, according to CRS, "revise the transition rules for phasing in the resource-based relative value scale (RB RVS) method of payment for physician services to prohibit adjustments for asymmetry in the transition and for behavioral responses."
  22. Preventing the Veterans Affairs Department from reporting to other agencies that a veteran's debt from a home loan guaranty program had been waived
  23. Removing the annual limit on outpatient physical and occupational therapy costs under Medicare Part B
  24. Establishing a pilot program within the Veterans Affairs Department to study whether hospice care could be provided to dying veterans
  25. Creating an inspector general's office in Congress
  26. Minting a Civil War commemorative coin
  27. Assessing crimes against the elderly and the needs of law enforcement in protecting them
  28. Designating May 1991 as "Older Americans Month"
  29. Designating May 1991 as "National Physical Fitness and Sports Month"
  30. Designating the week of April 21, 1991, as "National Crime Victims' Rights Week"
  31. Expressing the sense that Congress supports a national victory parade in honor of Desert Storm troops
  32. Designating a national military families day on November 23, 1991
  33. Disclosing information on the assassination of President Kennedy
  34. Designating a national military families day on November 21, 1992
  35. Pushing OSHA to establish regulations for operators of powered industrial trucks
  36. Creating a committee to study the reorganization of Congress
  37. Expressing the sense of Congress in support of what would become the 27th Amendment, which precludes lawmakers from voting to adjust their pay during the current Congress (sponsored by Rep. John Boehner)
  38. Expressing the sense of Congress that heating and cooling assistance for low-income Americans be held even or increased
  39. Expressing the sense of Congress in favor of mental health parity in the passage of new health-care laws
  40. Amending House rules to require a roll call vote — rather than an anonymous voice vote — on legislation appropriating money or extending credit.
  41. Santorum didn't co-sponsor any bills or resolutions that Sanders was the original sponsor of, but Sanders did sign on to one Santorum bill. It would have limited mileage reimbursement for members of Congress to the level for the rest of the federal government.
By comparison, Santorum, who would later rise in the Senate GOP leadership on the strength of his commitment to conservative social causes, co-sponsored 77 bills with current Ohio Governor John Kasich, a fellow Republican who was gaining prominence in the House at the time. Santorum and Sanders also both spoke against a bailout of savings and loan depositors in 1991 and were on the winning side when the House rejected a $30 billion assistance bill on a 201-220 vote in March that year.

In the following Congress, their second and final term in the House together, Santorum and Sanders co-sponsored another 40 bills and resolutions. The issue set was similar, with some additional agreement between the two House members on ending the Trident II missile program and extending low-income housing credits.

Of course, they had vehement disagreements, too. Sanders opposed fast-track trade authority for President George H. W. Bush, in part because he didn't want to see NAFTA ratified, while Santorum approved of it. And Santorum mocked a campaign finance reform bill for which Sanders was one of the chief advocates because it provided for public matching funds for candidates under certain circumstances.

"Can you believe this?" Santorum said on the floor. "I ask the people up here in the audience and people watching, can you believe that we are here today on the House floor talking about how to spend the taxpayers' money to help us get elected?"

The two remain at odds on most issues, including campaign finance reform. Santorum's last presidential bid was backed by billionaire Foster Friess's contributions to a Super PAC. Sanders wants to eliminate Super PACs.

41 times Rick Santorum and Bernie Sanders were on the same side - Vox
 

dust1n

Zindīq
Zero chance, Rev, but he will be quite helpful to Hill Hill in regards to which of his rantings actually gain traction with voters. She can then milk those lines for all their worth. Think of Saunders as the "Hill Hill Trial Balloon Guy".

Well, not zero chance, as the betting odds are current placed 33/1, as opposed to Even with Hillary. Same likelihood as Biden and Cruz.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Indeed. Which is undoubted why campaign finance reform is so necessary, yet rarely talked about it the media or by politicians for some reason.
Campaign finance reform enacted by the same politicians who steer the boat now will reform things?
The 'reforms' we've seen so far have only created more mischief.
It won't work for government to place ever more restrictions upon us in order to improve things.
That leads to those in power becoming more entrenched.
No.....tis up to us rabble rousers to yell, & to the sheep to decide they don't like the course of government.
It's an imperfect solution, but it beats more government control.
 

Aquitaine

Well-Known Member
Campaign finance reform enacted by the same politicians who steer the boat now will reform things?
The 'reforms' we've seen so far have only created more mischief.
It won't work for government to place ever more restrictions upon us in order to improve things.
That leads to those in power becoming more entrenched.
No.....tis up to us rabble rousers to yell, & to the sheep to decide they don't like the course of government.
It's an imperfect solution, but it beats more government control.

What would you propose?
 

dust1n

Zindīq
Campaign finance reform enacted by the same politicians who steer the boat now will reform things?

Bernie Sanders doesn't steer the boat

The 'reforms' we've seen so far have only created more mischief.
It won't work for government to place ever more restrictions upon us in order to improve things.
That leads to those in power becoming more entrenched.

Elaborate.

No.....tis up to us rabble rousers to yell, & to the sheep to decide they don't like the course of government.
It's an imperfect solution, but it beats more government control.

Are you suggesting I draft a bill myself, or?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
What would you propose?
Governmental steps I propose....
- Openness about political contributions.
(Yes, this could have a stifling effect, but it also would give confidence in the process, & take some oomph out of conspiracy theories.)
- Whatever regulation of political speech there is, there should be no complexities. (Currently, complex laws with harsh penalties & high compliance costs allow government to inhibit grass roots activism.)
- Allow entrapment of public officials & government workers. They should live in fear that the next bribe they take could put them in the slammer.
(This is harsh & not a burden to impose upon ordinary citizens, but it would be a burden which those choosing public service would knowingly take on. I've no fear that qualified people would be deterred by this. Moreover, it should scare off the very kind of unsavory types we don't want.)
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Bernie Sanders doesn't steer the boat
I agree. I don't include him with the Clintons, McCains, & other perps.
Elaborate.
Examples:
- Regulations for grass roots campaigns can be used to prevent undesired speech.
Pol could use this to silence opposition.
- McCain Feingold has allowed suppression of political speech by radio hosts by placing a monetary value on their "in kind contribution".
This sanction is imposed by those currently in power, which creates opportunity for mischief, ie, favoring their own agenda.
Are you suggesting I draft a bill myself, or?
I wasn't....but I like the idea!
 

Aquitaine

Well-Known Member
Governmental steps I propose....
- Openness about political contributions.
(Yes, this could have a stifling effect, but it also would give confidence in the process, & take some oomph out of conspiracy theories.)
- Whatever regulation of political speech there is, there should be no complexities. (Currently, complex laws with harsh penalties & high compliance costs allow government to inhibit grass roots activism.)
- Allow entrapment of public officials & government workers. They should live in fear that the next bribe they take could put them in the slammer.
(This is harsh & not a burden to impose upon ordinary citizens, but it would be a burden which those choosing public service would knowingly take on. I've no fear that qualified people would be deterred by this. Moreover, it should scare off the very kind of unsavory types we don't want.)

Thing is, does this not also fall under the same problem which you pointed out earlier when you asked:
reform enacted by the same politicians who steer the boat now will reform things?
?
 
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