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Better than bullets

The Hammer

Skald
Premium Member
I don't see this being safe. Potential drawbacks are blowing out a persons knees because they stumble if fleeing, could lead to Liability suits.
 

Viker

Your beloved eccentric Auntie Cristal
When ever there is a claim of less than lethal it still means lethal. I applaud the tendency towards less bullets and police brutality. I'm skeptical.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
Unless the dosage is off...
Or there is an allergic reaction...
Or drug interaction...
Then there is the legality of non-medical personnel dispensing medication without a license....

Filling them full of lead is better?
 

McBell

Unbound
Filling them full of lead is better?
Seems to me there is a better chance of killing them when pumping them full of a drug without knowing anything about their medical history, allergies, or what medications they are taking, legal or otherwise.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
Seems to me there is a better chance of killing them when pumping them full of a drug without knowing anything about their medical history, allergies, or what medications they are taking, legal or otherwise.

Is that a belief on your part or do you have any evidence from anesthesia or anything that you can cite? Otherwise, I'll assume I'm right given the lack of evidence and given how often when cops start firing they keep firing even after someone goes down.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Unless the dosage is off...
Or there is an allergic reaction...
Or drug interaction...
Then there is the legality of non-medical personnel dispensing medication without a license....
Ketamine is pretty safe. It would be rare anyone would die from it.

Besides. The perp might be feeling pretty good after awhile. ;0]
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Seems to me there is a better chance of killing them when pumping them full of a drug without knowing anything about their medical history, allergies, or what medications they are taking, legal or otherwise.
Not likely with this one.

Some police departments are already trying it with pretty good results. Of course there were some exceptions however...

Some States Allow Authorities To Use Ketamine To Subdue Suspects In The Field. But Is It Safe?

From the way it sounds the perps are likely very 'happy' to say the least. The added benefit of relieving the stress is a bonus. I'm not aware of people getting killed by Ketamine very often although prolonged use may affect some cognitive aspects over time in most.
 
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Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Not likely with this one.

Some police departments are already trying it with pretty good results. Of course there were some exceptions however...

Some States Allow Authorities To Use Ketamine To Subdue Suspects In The Field. But Is It Safe?

From the way it sounds the perps are likely very 'happy' to say the least. The added benefit of relieving the stress is a bonus. I'm not aware of people getting killed by Ketamine very often although prolonged use may affect some cognitive aspects over time in most.

Addum:

I would think pre selected universal dosages might solve any complications from a tranq gun than a bullet or a tazer's unreliability.

Nobody is going to outrun a tranq dart from a firearm and the benefit far outweighs the risks I think.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
The device should be worn on the wrist.
And cops using should wear red & blue Spandex.

BTW, the linked article also led me to....
 

McBell

Unbound
Is that a belief on your part or do you have any evidence from anesthesia or anything that you can cite? Otherwise, I'll assume I'm right given the lack of evidence and given how often when cops start firing they keep firing even after someone goes down.
What gave it away, I mean, other than the "seems to me" part of my post?
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
What gave it away, I mean, other than the "seems to me" part of my post?

Sometimes people find some data they agree with and post it and sometimes it's conjecture. People don't always use precise language so I wanted to be sure I knew the background for your post.

I would think pre selected universal dosages might solve any complications from a tranq gun than a bullet or a tazer's unreliability.

If the dose was calibrated to have a relatively minimal effect, it would be safer. The idea is not to put a person out for an hour, but to stop him in his tracks for a few minutes - even making him too dizzy to run would be enough.

I think most cops would welcome having that kind of device.
 
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