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Biden and the traitorous People's Democrat Party is trying to start a civil war if not already with the open border being ground zero.

F1fan

Veteran Member
And an expert you will never ever equal in your entire life said this...


  • The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. Thomas Jefferson
Irrelevant since you were referring to Central America. Conservatives in America are certainly making more blood being shed a possibility, and it doesn't have to be if they just accepted law, and found ethics.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Irrelevant since you were referring to Central America. Conservatives in America are certainly making more blood being shed a possibility, and it doesn't have to be if they just accepted law, and found ethics.
Hardly. It's revelant internationally. Freedoms and liberty are universal.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Are you saying that you don't believe the migrants stories about having to pay the drug cartels anywhere from $2000 to $10,000 for safe passage? Smuggling of migrants: the harsh search for a better life
Did you not read your own source? Can't you follow a conversation? We have been talking about refugees. Those are not the same as migrants. Now some refugees may have relied on those people. but it sounds from the article that those are mostly migrant workers. Migrant workers are known for their reliance upon Coyotes, I have not heard the same about refugees.
 

Colt

Well-Known Member
Don't forget that includes voting too which is probably one of the major drivers for allowing illegals to overrun this nation and create all kinds of chaos.

Democrats want these people trained and conditioned to vote for them in exchange for free dog treats.
If the Left thought illegals were future (R)’s then “suddenly” they would be concerned about illegal immigration! They would be as concerned as they are about Trump paying extortion money to a porn actress!
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
If the Left thought illegals were future (R)’s then “suddenly” they would be concerned about illegal immigration! They would be as concerned as they are about Trump paying extortion money to a porn actress.
If that ever happened, they wouldn't be able to steal elections anymore.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
The Fed.gov wont do anything about securing the border. Some states offer sanctuary for illegals if they can just get to the state! This creates an underworld where illegals live and work but without protection or the benefits of citizenship.

So disband border security, your dreams can come true.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
They are already getting plenty of money. Every time they get more money, they use it to facilitate the entry of the illegals into the country. They cut the razor wire, they tear down sections of wall that was keeping the migrants out, and are handing out $5000 visa gift cards and free smartphones to these people and giving them free rides to wherever they want to go in the country. I don't think we should want our money to be spent that way. The borders patrol is supposed to be keeping these people out, and not helping them to get in.

The razor wire is illegal.
The border patrol is supposed to be adhering to the law.
 

McBell

Unbound
They are already getting plenty of money. Every time they get more money, they use it to facilitate the entry of the illegals into the country. They cut the razor wire, they tear down sections of wall that was keeping the migrants out, and are handing out $5000 visa gift cards and free smartphones to these people and giving them free rides to wherever they want to go in the country. I don't think we should want our money to be spent that way. The borders patrol is supposed to be keeping these people out, and not helping them to get in.
 

Colt

Well-Known Member
So disband border security, your dreams can come true.
We don’t really have border security. I would cut off federal funding to states who provide sanctuary for illegal immigrants and incarcerate illegal aliens until trial and deportation. This would disincentivize sneaking into the country illegally.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
We don’t really have border security. I would cut off federal funding to states who provide sanctuary for illegal immigrants and incarcerate illegal aliens until trial and deportation. This would disincentivize sneaking into the country illegally.

Re border security, rubbish. But no more than expected.
So what you are saying is you would run roughshod over the law just to get personal satisfaction that these immigrants are being punished.
 

McBell

Unbound
We don’t really have border security. I would cut off federal funding to states who provide sanctuary for illegal immigrants and incarcerate illegal aliens until trial and deportation. This would disincentivize sneaking into the country illegally.
Cool.
Now all you need to do is figure out where you gonna get the funding and man power to get it done.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Threads like this really bring home the message that the times of the USA as a place to expect great things of are long gone. Half of the community now wants to enable the likes of Trump, the other half is trying to contain the damage.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
No. Razor wire is not illegal. Texas has full authority to use if if they deem necessary.
You can't be serious.

You must realize that people have a duty to discern whether they are being immoral - to say nothing of illegal.

The alternative is succumbing to barbarism or worse.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
You can't be serious.

You must realize that people have a duty to discern whether they are being immoral - to say nothing of illegal.

The alternative is succumbing to barbarism or worse.
Constantine wire isn't going to come out and attack you, so it's perfectly benign unless you're so stupid as to try to break through it without proper equipment.

It's designed to keep people on one side or the other and that's all it does. Leave it alone and it's perfectly humane. The wire isn't going to chase after you and hunt you down or anything.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Constantine wire isn't going to come out and attack you, so it's perfectly benign unless you're so stupid as to try to break through it without proper equipment.

It's designed to keep people on one side or the other and that's all it does. Leave it alone and it's perfectly humane. The wire isn't going to chase after you and hunt you down or anything.
Spare me this bull, will ya?
 

Guitar's Cry

Disciple of Pan
They are removing a dutifully placed deterrent that has been proven to be effective in protecting this country from this invasion without replacing it with something just as effective as a deterrent that protects the rightful citizens living in this country.

Instead they are leaving it completely open which to me is an act of treason and betrayal of their oath of office to protect the citizens of the United States and its borders.

I wouldn't call that treason. I would call that disagreement over what constitutes border security.

As I stated before, are the Republicans guilty of treason for legislating against climate change mitigation efforts?
 
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