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Biden is now more dangerous to the west than the Taliban.

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
British military officer: Biden is more of a danger to the West than the Taliban

I agree with the British SAS Officer.

I don't think that part of the world is going to feel very secure now the Taliban has rule of the roost.

Why the Taliban is now being intentionally allowed to grow in power and influence over there, eventually their world ambitions of Islamic conquest will likely start crossing the border out into the neighboring countryside, what's next in store now?

My take is if they are not removed right now from the seat of power, while they are still relatively weak, then people ought to brace for what hell will be unleashed through various terrorist actions on nearby countries, courtesy of the newly empowered and equipped Taliban.

Thank the bumbling idiot and the glorious puppeteers for making the newly empowered and confident Taliban so very very happy for his wonderful contribution to future world terrorism.
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
British military officer: Biden is more of a danger to the West than the Taliban

I agree with the British SAS Officer.

I don't think that part of the world is going to feel very secure now the Taliban has rule of the roost.

Why the Taliban is now being intentionally allowed to grow in power and influence over there, eventually their world ambitions of Islamic conquest will likely start crossing the border out into the neighboring countryside, what's next in store now?

My take is if they are not removed right now from the seat of power, while they are still relatively weak, then people ought to brace for what hell will be unleashed through various terrorist actions on nearby countries, courtesy of the newly empowered and equipped Taliban.

Thank the bumbling idiot and the glorious puppeteers for making the newly empowered and confident Taliban so very very happy for his wonderful contribution to future world terrorism.
Is this the joke thread?
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
British military officer: Biden is more of a danger to the West than the Taliban

I agree with the British SAS Officer.

I don't think that part of the world is going to feel very secure now the Taliban has rule of the roost.
That is rubbish. Total rubbish.
We should never have messed with Afghanistan or Iraq in the first place.

Why the Taliban is now being intentionally allowed to grow in power and influence over there, eventually their world ambitions of Islamic conquest will likely start crossing the border out into the neighboring countryside, what's next in store now?
Oh please! Whichever way the Taliban look they see Islamic Countries.

My take is if they are not removed right now from the seat of power, while they are still relatively weak, then people ought to brace for what hell will be unleashed through various terrorist actions on nearby countries, courtesy of the newly empowered and equipped Taliban.
In which case you will be going over there to do something....... or did you want to stay and send others?

Thank the bumbling idiot and the glorious puppeteers for making the newly empowered and confident Taliban so very very happy for his wonderful contribution to future world terrorism.
There are lots of folks who might think that your country has terrorised in its time.
Look at the erosion of women's rights in Texas, for instance.
Stay home. Sort yourself out at home.
 

74x12

Well-Known Member
Biden already said he would leave even if Trump didn't start it. Biden insists on blaming Trump for the bad; but takes credit for the supposed good. Which there isn't anything good about this situation but he pretends there is. I guess he bravely ran away like Sire Robin ... So brave! It's ridiculous to think that there is anything good about this. He gave the Taliban a lot of stuff. They've never been stronger. He's completely erased decades of effort. Twelve year old girls are being raped because the Taliban consider them spoils of war according to their twisted version of Islam.

Biden didn't follow Trump's plan and Trump would not have allowed this. I'm not even a Trump supporter but I believe that. I think Trump is too proud and self respecting to ever stand for any of this disgrace. The fact is that Trump said in the first place that he didn't want a repeat of the rise of Isis in Iraq due to Obama's too hasty retreat. He made that very clear from the first when he started the process. So there is no way Trump would have allowed any of this to happen. There was really no reason for Biden to allow it either. I would have rather seen him put more troops in Afghanistan than let all the hard work and sacrifice of soldiers to liberate that country go to waste.

I suspect the military industrial complex already got what it wanted out of Afghanistan and now they don't care. They probably want the Taliban to be strong so they can start more lucrative wars in the middle east. So they get their guy Biden to pull out and they don't care how bad it makes him look because he's a goner anyway. I mean look how old he is. He's done for.

Let's face it no one looks more incompetent right now than Biden. It's done on purpose by the so called deep state. No self respecting politician would put up with this level of political suicide; but Biden is old and doesn't seem to care about anything. He obviously just does what he's told. As much as I don't like Trump; at least he did what he wanted to do a lot of the time. I'd rather have that then a total puppet.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
So you're quick to say that Biden is the problem, then go on about the Taliban being the threat? Make up your mind. But before you do so, bear in mind that this was all made possible by Trumpty Dumpty.
No. It is made a reality by our glorious bumbling so called leader and his troupe of idiot puppeteers.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
That is rubbish. Total rubbish.
We should never have messed with Afghanistan or Iraq in the first place.


Oh please! Whichever way the Taliban look they see Islamic Countries.


In which case you will be going over there to do something....... or did you want to stay and send others?


There are lots of folks who might think that your country has terrorised in its time.
Look at the erosion of women's rights in Texas, for instance.
Stay home. Sort yourself out at home.

I'm actually glad we did 'mess' with them after 9/11. Hadn't we done that, the world would be far far worse. Just like you stated, the Taliban wants nothing but Islamic nations which is reason enough to put the brakes on their global ambitions.


I actually tried re-enlisting awhile to get back in. I think 2015 or 16 returning into the army where I would have gone in as an E5 Sergeant and didn't require new basic training aside from qualifications. I was unfortunately disqualified at MEPS because of my ill health and hearing.

Sadly I'll never be able to join anymore.

Rest assured if I could, I would go over there and do whatever it takes to accomplish my assigned missions.

I do agree the US needs to curtail its offensive strategy, but there are areas where that is not possible and the middle east is one such place.
 
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Nimos

Well-Known Member
British military officer: Biden is more of a danger to the West than the Taliban

I agree with the British SAS Officer.

I don't think that part of the world is going to feel very secure now the Taliban has rule of the roost.

Why the Taliban is now being intentionally allowed to grow in power and influence over there, eventually their world ambitions of Islamic conquest will likely start crossing the border out into the neighboring countryside, what's next in store now?

My take is if they are not removed right now from the seat of power, while they are still relatively weak, then people ought to brace for what hell will be unleashed through various terrorist actions on nearby countries, courtesy of the newly empowered and equipped Taliban.

Thank the bumbling idiot and the glorious puppeteers for making the newly empowered and confident Taliban so very very happy for his wonderful contribution to future world terrorism.
I doubt the Taliban will ever grow much stronger than what they used to. Neither do they have the manpower, but also Afghanistan is a mess of a country split by lots of internal conflicts and people with different interests. Very little if anything would be gain for Taliban should they start doing terror in other countries, except provoke another invasion which they would loose in a few weeks should it happen.

What we are going to see, in my opinion, is a country much like it used to be, lots of suppression of people's freedoms, a highly religious country, a country that will slowly end up back in the stone ages, so to speak. Occasionally we will hear of some bad stuff going on down there, but for the most part, we won't hear anything, because whatever is going on down there, will be less interesting to us, compared to who won the next big sport event, the next political sex scandal, or whatever event might find its ways to the surface of attention.

I bet you, that in 3 month you have to be lucky to find any news about whats going on in Afghanistan. :)
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I doubt the Taliban will ever grow much stronger than what they used to. Neither do they have the manpower, but also Afghanistan is a mess of a country split by lots of internal conflicts and people with different interests. Very little if anything would be gain for Taliban should they start doing terror in other countries, except provoke another invasion which they would loose in a few weeks should it happen.

What we are going to see, in my opinion, is a country much like it used to be, lots of suppression of people's freedoms, a highly religious country, a country that will slowly end up back in the stone ages, so to speak. Occasionally we will hear of some bad stuff going on down there, but for the most part, we won't hear anything, because whatever is going on down there, will be less interesting to us, compared to who won the next big sport event, the next political sex scandal, or whatever event might find its ways to the surface of attention.

I bet you, that in 3 month you have to be lucky to find any news about whats going on in Afghanistan. :)
I don't know how old you are, but if the Jimmy Carter years is any indication of a past peaceful middle east.....

I'd be surprised if what you say comes true.
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
British military officer: Biden is more of a danger to the West than the Taliban

I agree with the British SAS Officer.

I don't think that part of the world is going to feel very secure now the Taliban has rule of the roost.

Why the Taliban is now being intentionally allowed to grow in power and influence over there, eventually their world ambitions of Islamic conquest will likely start crossing the border out into the neighboring countryside, what's next in store now?

My take is if they are not removed right now from the seat of power, while they are still relatively weak, then people ought to brace for what hell will be unleashed through various terrorist actions on nearby countries, courtesy of the newly empowered and equipped Taliban.

Thank the bumbling idiot and the glorious puppeteers for making the newly empowered and confident Taliban so very very happy for his wonderful contribution to future world terrorism.
But wasn't all this Trump's idea? It was he that opened negotiations with the Taliban and got the Pakistanis to let one of their leaders out of jail for the purpose.
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
I'm actually glad we did 'mess' with them after 9/11. Hadn't we done that, the world would be far far worse. Just like you stated, the Taliban wants nothing but Islamic nations which is reason enough to put the brakes on their global ambitions.


I actually tried re-enlisting awhile to get back in. I think 2015 or 16 returning into the army where I would have gone in as an E5 Sergeant and didn't require new basic training aside from qualifications. I was unfortunately disqualified at MEPS because of my ill health and hearing.

Sadly I'll never be able to join anymore.

Rest assured if I could, I would go over there and do whatever it takes to accomplish my assigned missions.

I do agree the US needs to curtail its offensive strategy, but there are areas where that is not possible and the middle east is one such place.
I agree that we should stop playing wargames all over the world. And since the west has lost out in most of these wars this last 50 years or so you'd think we might have learned.

Now that the Taliban has won Afghanistan I'm interested to see how the new government manages. We keep claiming that we want to help the people there, bit they are in extreme difficulty because we've dammed up their cash flow, = no shopping.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I agree that we should stop playing wargames all over the world. And since the west has lost out in most of these wars this last 50 years or so you'd think we might have learned.

Now that the Taliban has won Afghanistan I'm interested to see how the new government manages. We keep claiming that we want to help the people there, bit they are in extreme difficulty because we've dammed up their cash flow, = no shopping.
I have no desire to see any terrorist group or organization legitimatized. There are too many already on the plate as it is.
 

Nimos

Well-Known Member
I don't know how old you are, but if the Jimmy Carter years is any indication of a past peaceful middle east.....

I'd be surprised if what you say comes true.
Lets see :)

In my experience this is exactly how it goes with pretty much everything going on around in the world. Things are interesting, until the next big scandal or event happens.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
British military officer: Biden is more of a danger to the West than the Taliban

I agree with the British SAS Officer.

I don't think that part of the world is going to feel very secure now the Taliban has rule of the roost.

Why the Taliban is now being intentionally allowed to grow in power and influence over there, eventually their world ambitions of Islamic conquest will likely start crossing the border out into the neighboring countryside, what's next in store now?

My take is if they are not removed right now from the seat of power, while they are still relatively weak, then people ought to brace for what hell will be unleashed through various terrorist actions on nearby countries, courtesy of the newly empowered and equipped Taliban.

Thank the bumbling idiot and the glorious puppeteers for making the newly empowered and confident Taliban so very very happy for his wonderful contribution to future world terrorism.

Interesting article. I found this part to be of note:

“Biden is the most incompetent president in the history of the United States,” Coult told the Washington Examiner. “He has befriended terrorists. The White House is not a friend to the West. It’s a danger while he is president.”

Coult said he has spoken to numerous British generals and Special Operations officers about Biden, and they all agree that no one can understand his logic.

“We believe Biden is more of a threat to the West than the Taliban ever was. Without a shadow of a doubt. He betrayed us,” Coult said.

These comments come after former British prime minister Tony Blair said Europe and NATO should prepare to act when the U.S. is unwilling.

“For me, one of the most alarming developments of recent times has been the sense that the West lacks the capacity to formulate strategy,” Blair said. “That its short-term political imperatives have simply squeezed the space for long-term thinking.”

Blair is just one of several British politicians who have criticized Biden’s handling of the Afghanistan withdrawal, spurred on by reports that calls to the White House by Prime Minister Boris were ignored for 36 hours during the initial chaos. The U.K. Parliament held Biden in contempt.

Blair does make a telling point that "the West lacks the capacity to formulate strategy." The article also mentions that calls to the White House went ignored for 36 hours during the initial chaos, which makes one wonder if anyone was in charge at all.

It's also suggested that any future military cooperation between the US and its Western allies is finished until there is a new president.

As for future relations with the U.S., any military cooperation with its Western allies is likely finished until a new president is elected, Coult said, reiterating his conversations with military leaders and public sentiment.

“We don’t know what he is going to do. Why would you help someone who would turn your back on us?” Coult said. “He has nailed that door closed.”

I don't agree with the notion that "Biden is more dangerous to the West than the Taliban." I don't think this can be laid entirely at Biden's feet, although it seems like bad timing that he went on vacation during those critical days in Afghanistan. Ignoring phone calls for 36 hours is also inexcusable and makes the White House staff look like a bunch of incompetent dolts.

Another consequence of this (or some might say it's a benefit) is that it will be much more difficult to justify any kind of military adventurism in the future.

The public might finally realize that the general philosophy which has guided US foreign and military policies over the past 75 years has been seriously flawed and ill-conceived all along. We can't really have proxies or puppet governments as long as the puppets' eyes are open. I don't think the public ever really bought that malarkey anyway, at least not since the Vietnam War. In short, we'll have to drop the arrogant pose that we're some kind of paragon of virtue or "defender of freedom."

Our foreign policy should focus solely on our own practical national interests, eschewing emotionalism, sentiment, and sanctimony.
 

Stevicus

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Staff member
Premium Member
But wasn't all this Trump's idea? It was he that opened negotiations with the Taliban and got the Pakistanis to let one of their leaders out of jail for the purpose.

Possibly, although there are still many unanswered questions as to what decisions were made and why in the critical days leading up to the Taliban takeover. It was on Biden's watch, and he was under no obligation to carry out Trump's plans or ideas. He had the option of changing the plan.
 
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