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Biden Out!

Clizby Wampuscat

Well-Known Member
Breaking news!
Biden is out.
Good or bad?
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Can anyone tell me why he is not running again? His letter did not say. It just said "for the good of the country", what does that mean?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Can anyone tell me why he is not running again? His letter did not say. It just said "for the good of the country", what does that mean?
It means that it's too difficult to say....
"I've finally accepted that my mental
decline means I shouldn't run for Prez."
Duh!
 

Clizby Wampuscat

Well-Known Member
It means that it's too difficult to say....
"I've finally accepted that my mental
decline means I shouldn't run for Prez."
Duh!
I think American citizens should know why, I guess we will wait until his address to the nation.

Duh was not necessary. It is a legitimate question.
 

Magic Man

Reaper of Conversation
Told all my friends on Friday he'd be gone by Sunday.

It is unfortunate that he did not resign the Presidency immediately, in favour of Harris. That would have given her extra points as incumbent, even if only for 5 months, and increase the likelihood of defeating Trump.

However, I still think that the Democrats have brought their likely defeat upon themselves by not have the spine to stand behind their man with their full support. If he won, you'd get the same outcome -- President Harris in pretty short order.
I don't think him resigning from his current job would have helped. That would have created even more chaos.

It's so up in the air, it's impossible to say which was the best option. For a long time, it looked like Biden had the best chance to beat Trump, but lately, there are indications that others like Harris have a better chance. Either way, there are big hurdles to overcome. I'm just glad this part is settled, so they can move on to establishing the campaign again and getting that into high gear.
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
I think American citizens should know why, I guess we will wait until his address to the nation.

Duh was not necessary. It is a legitimate question.
Why are you not running for President? I think American citizen's should know why.


And then we will get out the phone book from every city and county and make sure everybody answers this question.


Or maybe no one really needs to explain why the are not running for President, maybe they just need to explain why they are. That might be easier.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Which also extends to the tribal blood purity tests implemented to determine federally eligible native American tribes / members. "Blood quantum". Started in 1705 in the colonies.

Yes, and that affects a housemate of mine, or rather it affects her children. She is a member of the Blackfoot tribe. Her kids are not. And it did start that way, but now it is the tribes themselves that set the Blood Quantum. There are members of her tribe that want it changed, as she does. But the ones currently in charge do not want it changed. And they both have good arguments. The ones that are against the change do so because they are a rather poor tribe. They are located mainly in Montana and there are not that many resources for them there. They do not want their ability to help others to be weakened. And of course those whose children no long meet the blood quantum feel as if their children are losing their heritage.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
The (D) media tried to hide Biden’s decline. Even Harris worked to dispel concerns, but the debate showed the truth!
Perhaps, but if that is the case then why are you supporting Trump who has far more often shown the same evidence of decline? The Democrats finally got Biden to do the right thing.. Are you going to pressure the Republicans to get rid of Trump?
 

Spice

StewardshipPeaceIntergityCommunityEquality
Trump is a businessman who is running on the needs of the working class; jobs and low inflation. Working people come from all parties.
If you believe the business elite care about the working class's welfare you're greatly mistaken. Why do you think the unions came about. The upper echelons are only concerned with controlling the working classes.
 

Spice

StewardshipPeaceIntergityCommunityEquality
I wonder how things would shake out if Harris picked a blue state Republican for her VP (if any would accept.) Someone centrist or just a tad bit left of center (if they exist.) Could be a signal to the electorate that MAGA is not welcome at the table, but other Republicans are. It may also send the signal that we need to get over our hatred of the other side and start working together for the good of the country.

Haven't thought through the implications of this, so looking for feedback.
I hope she doesn't alienate the centrists southerners by leaving them out.
 

Spice

StewardshipPeaceIntergityCommunityEquality
Can anyone tell me why he is not running again? His letter did not say. It just said "for the good of the country", what does that mean?
It means his party was becoming divided just as the competition was uniting. "Divided we fall."
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
I think American citizens should know why, I guess we will wait until his address to the nation.

Duh was not necessary. It is a legitimate question.
You guys are funny.

You've been making fun of the guy for months at least now, about how old and decrepit and senile you all think he is, then when he resigns from the race, you're now acting all confused about why he dropped out?

Come on guys. We don't need the act.

Edit: I saw this exact talking point being discussed all over Fox News last night. Like it's some big mystery and they're all so utterly confused :rolleyes:)
 
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Clizby Wampuscat

Well-Known Member
You guys are funny.

You've been making fun of the guy for months at least now, about how old and decrepit and senile you all think he is, then when he resigns from the race, you're now acting all confused about why he dropped out?

Come on guys. We don't need the act.

Edit: I saw this exact talking point being discussed all over Fox News last night. Like it's some big mystery and they're all so utterly confused :rolleyes:)
Not the point. My point is Biden has not told us yet of his reasons. This is alI I am asking. You are assuming a reason.
 

Magic Man

Reaper of Conversation
So the dem voters voted for Biden but then because the party decides he cannot win they oust him for someone the party picks? Please stop talking about how the dems love democracy.
Ah, I see you've fallen prey to the current right-wing talking point. This is not anti-democratic.

Biden is the incumbent. As such, he didn't face any real primary challenges, as incumbents generally don't. People voted for him because he was the only real option. Since then, polls show a majority wanted another option, especially after the debate. It became clear that Biden dropping out was popular among the democratic party, which means this move is listening to them.
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
Not the point. My point is Biden has not told us yet of his reasons. This is alI I am asking. You are assuming a reason.
Do the reasons matter? I mean if it is just curiosity I understand that, I am also curious to hear what he has to say. But I don't think his reasons are going to affect anyone's vote. He doesn't really need a reason. He could just go up to the microphone and say "I don't wanna" and stick his tongue out at us. (I am not predicting he is going to do that nor suggesting that he should, but he could).
 

Magic Man

Reaper of Conversation
Not the point. My point is Biden has not told us yet of his reasons. This is alI I am asking. You are assuming a reason.
Why do you think it matters? They convinced him someone else had a better shot at winning. Maybe he also was tired of it and didn't feel like continuing. I'm genuinely baffled as to why you think it matters, though.
 
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