Biden Out!

[Clizby Wampuscat]

Ah, I see you've fallen prey to the current right-wing talking point. This is not anti-democratic.

Biden is the incumbent. As such, he didn't face any real primary challenges, as incumbents generally don't. People voted for him because he was the only real option. Since then, polls show a majority wanted another option, especially after the debate. It became clear that Biden dropping out was popular among the democratic party, which means this move is listening to them.

This is nonsense. Sanders, Warren, Bloomberg, Buttigieg, Harris and 24 other candidates were all running. Sanders got over 26% of the delegates. Warren in October 2019 was ahead of Biden in the polls for a week or so. So your claim he had no real primary challenges is false.

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

Do the reasons matter? I mean if it is just curiosity I understand that, I am also curious to hear what he has to say. But I don't think his reasons are going to affect anyone's vote. He doesn't really need a reason. He could just go up to the microphone and say "I don't wanna" and stick his tongue out at us. (I am not predicting he is going to do that nor suggesting that he should, but he could).

Yes it does matter. If he is sick or senile or whatever that is understandable but if the reason is he just cannot win then the party thwarted the people's vote when they forced him out. That matters. Shouldn't there at least be another primary?

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

Why do you think it matters? They convinced him someone else had a better shot at winning. Maybe he also was tired of it and didn't feel like continuing. I'm genuinely baffled as to why you think it matters, though.

Yes it does matter. If he is sick or senile or whatever that is understandable but if the reason is he just cannot win then the party thwarted the people's vote when they forced him out. That matters. Shouldn't there at least be another primary?

 

[Magic Man]

This is nonsense. Sanders, Warren, Bloomberg, Buttigieg, Harris and 24 other candidates were all running. Sanders got over 26% of the delegates. Warren in October 2019 was ahead of Biden in the polls for a week or so. So your claim he had no real primary challenges is false.

None of them ran against him in primaries this year. You're talking about 2020. We're talking about this year, so what I said was true.

 

[Magic Man]

Yes it does matter. If he is sick or senile or whatever that is understandable but if the reason is he just cannot win then the party thwarted the people's vote when they forced him out. That matters. Shouldn't there at least be another primary?

No one thwarted the people's vote. They didn't force him out. There can't be another primary. This is what most democrats wanted.

 

[fantome profane]

If he is sick or senile or whatever that is understandable but if the reason is he just cannot win then the party thwarted the people's vote when they forced him out. That matters. Shouldn't there at least be another primary?

If he is sick or senile then Kamala should take over the Presidency now. But I don't think that is the case.

He has every right to drop out if he thinks he cannot win. And he can drop out just because he wants to drop out. Whatever his reasons are, there are procedures in place to deal with this and they are going to follow those procedures. And Biden's reasons do not change those procedures.

This is not uncharted territory.

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

None of them ran against him in primaries this year. You're talking about 2020. We're talking about this year, so what I said was true.

Yes got the wrong year, time flies.

Harris, Phillips, Palmer and Williamson ran as well as other people that did not get on the ballot in every state. . Kennedy ran against Biden so people made the choice to vote for Biden over the others.

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

If he is sick or senile then Kamala should take over the Presidency now. But I don't think that is the case.

He has every right to drop out if he thinks he cannot win. And he can drop out just because he wants to drop out. Whatever his reasons are, there are procedure in place to deal with this and they are going to follow those procedures. And Biden's reasons do not change those procedures.

This is not uncharted territory.

What are the procedures?

 

[fantome profane]

What are the procedures?

Google it.

 

[Magic Man]

Yes got the wrong year, time flies.

Harris, Phillips, Palmer and Williamson ran as well as other people that did not get on the ballot in every state. . Kennedy ran against Biden so people made the choice to vote for Biden over the others.

They made the choice of others who weren't really an option. No one who challenged him was remotely a viable candidate.

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

Google it.

You said there were procedures and now you won't provide them. Not my claim to prove.

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

They made the choice of others who weren't really an option. No one who challenged him was remotely a viable candidate.

Do you think voters would have chose differently if they knew he was going to drop out or about his decline? I bet they would have. Why vote for someone you know is not going to be the nominee?

 

[Revoltingest]

So the dem voters voted for Biden but then because the party decides he cannot win they oust him for someone the party picks? Please stop talking about how the dems love democracy.

That is democracy, ie, the parties pick whom they run.
Then there's an election.
Unless some thug like Trump tries a coup to over-turn
it, the election is democratic.
No one ever said democracy wouldn't be messy.

 

[ratiocinator]

Yes it does matter. If he is sick or senile or whatever that is understandable but if the reason is he just cannot win then the party thwarted the people's vote when they forced him out. That matters. Shouldn't there at least be another primary?

Wow, if the Republicans are so worried about his, that they are resorting to this non-issue, they must be really scared. Excellent news!

 

[Spice]

Yes it does matter. If he is sick or senile or whatever that is understandable but if the reason is he just cannot win then the party thwarted the people's vote when they forced him out. That matters. Shouldn't there at least be another primary?

That's what the delegates are for. Although not likely (in the least), Biden could have not been chosen as the party nominee by the delegates at the convention. I remember watching "the call" at the conventions as a kid, fascinated .... the proud state of ?????, cast #? for the distinguished gentleman from the great state of ?????, and ### for the next President of the United States, ??????????!!!!! And we'd actually be surprised now and then!

 

[Magic Man]

Do you think voters would have chose differently if they knew he was going to drop out or about his decline? I bet they would have. Why vote for someone you know is not going to be the nominee?

Why do you think this matters?

 

[fantome profane]

You said there were procedures and now you won't provide them. Not my claim to prove.

What happens if Joe Biden drops out or is replaced as the 2024 Democratic Party presidential nominee

Ballotpedia: The Encyclopedia of American Politics

ballotpedia.org

Here’s How Democrats Could Pick A New Nominee As Joe Biden Drops Out

Democrats just weeks until they’ll formalize their nominee at their convention.

www.forbes.com

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-will-step-aside-2024-race-what-happens-next-2024-07-21/

Took me three seconds. And you will see his reasons for dropping out play no part.

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

Wow, if the Republicans are so worried about his, that they are resorting to this non-issue, they must be really scared. Excellent news!

I am glad you think that. We will see.

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

Why do you think this matters?

The people voted for Biden, now that he stepped down the people should get to decide the new candidate.

 

[fantome profane]

Charlamagne the God just endorsed Kamala Harris!!!!!


This is over.