Biden Out!

[Magic Man]

No I was responding to teh claim that there was a process for this situation. That is a claim. I simply asked what that process was.

Right, you asked for an explanation of this process. I advised that for something like that it would be best to read up on it for yourself.

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

Right, you asked for an explanation of this process. I advised that for something like that it would be best to read up on it for yourself.

Ok

 

[Pogo]

No I was responding to teh claim that there was a process for this situation. That is a claim. I simply asked what that process was.

No it wasn't what you were claiming, you were claiming that they couldn't change the name on the ballot, very different, and the process had not reached that point.
However in Missouri the candidate died after ballots were printed and the governor appointed his wife when he won anyway.

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

No it wasn't what you were claiming, you were claiming that they couldn't change the name on the ballot, very different, and the process had not reached that point.
However in Missouri the candidate died after ballots were printed and the governor appointed his wife when he won anyway.

Sorry I was not claiming that. I was asking for the process to do so.

 

[fantome profane]

Sorry I was not claiming that. I was asking for the process to do so.

The ballots are not even an issue. Joe Biden was never the official nominee of the Democratic Party. That happens at the convention.

 

[England my lionheart]

Yep. Trump (like Farage, LePen, Meloni, Orban etc) is only a symptom. The underlying problem is the millions of people willing to be taken in by populist rhetoric.

But among those millions are people with genuine concerns that never get addressed or are sidestepped,especially on the issue of immigration and any criticism earns the racist far right badge.

 

[Pogo]

Sorry I was not claiming that. I was asking for the process to do so.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/2024/07/24/questions-answers-harris-biden-election/

Read it to at least get an overview,

 

[Argentbear]

But among those millions are people with genuine concerns that never get addressed or are sidestepped,especially on the issue of immigration and any criticism earns the racist far right badge.

It is addressed but many in Washington prefer to have a broken system so they can complain about it.

 

[England my lionheart]

It is addressed but many in Washington prefer to have a broken system so they can complain about it.

Same as here and Europe.

 

[RestlessSoul]

But among those millions are people with genuine concerns that never get addressed or are sidestepped,especially on the issue of immigration and any criticism earns the racist far right badge.

It's hard to have a reasoned public debate on immigration, because it's such an emotive subject. And people's emotions are easily hijacked by populists. But I agree there needs to be one, in the UK and Europe. It always seems bizarre to me though, to hear Americans panicking about immigration. Aren't they all immigrants?

 

[England my lionheart]

It's hard to have a reasoned public debate on immigration, because it's such an emotive subject. And people's emotions are easily hijacked by populists. But I agree there needs to be one, in the UK and Europe. It always seems bizarre to me though, to hear Americans panicking about immigration. Aren't they all immigrants?

Absolutely.

 

[Neelix]

It might've had something to do, in part, with her skills as a prosecutor questioning Attorney General Barr when she was a senator.

Not sure what prosecutorial skills would have to do with being a VP, or even a president. Those skills haven't netted her any successes so far, and she still has a greater disapproval rating than Trump.
Her skills also failed her miserably in attempting to prosecute her way to being the 2020 presidential nominee for the dems. She was the first to drop out of the primaries.

 

[Neelix]

Have you somehow forgotten that she is a successful prosecutor, a successful state Attorney General, a successful Senator -- and a successful VP? Do none of those things count as job experience, in your estimation?

And by the way, she was all of those things without her race or gender ever having anything to do with it!

WTF do you think Trump did that qualifies hi to run "something so complex?" Run casinos into the ground? Sham university? What --- tell us?

How was she a successful VP? I've never seen a VP "fail" before since there's nothing to do but stand off to the side while the president speaks, and wait for something to happen to the president so the VP can take over. So far, she's been nothing but a gaslighter to the public by claiming along with most everyone else that Biden is perfectly fine and healthy and energetic, regardless of what everyone else sees everyday. She shouldn't be rewarded for that.

 

[Neelix]

You're not representing the situation honestly

He wanted to have a VP who was a black woman, yes, but he didn't pick her "simply for being a black woman." In the article you linked it states the following:

He said he is getting a “two-hour vetting report” on each of his potential picks, and that he and his team have gone through “about four candidates” so far. “Then, when I get all the vetting done of all the candidates, then I’m going to narrow the list, and then we’ll see. And then I’m going to have personal discussions with each of the candidates who are left and make a decision,” Biden said.

Biden is considering a broad tier of candidates to be his running mate, after pledging earlier this year to pick a woman for the job. CNN previously reported that Sen. Kamala Harris of California, Rep. Val Demings of Florida, Atlanta Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms, former Obama administration national security adviser Susan Rice and Rep. Karen Bass of California are among the Black women being considered.

So if he started with several candidates and narrowed it down to Kamala Harris, how do you think that happened? Why did he pick her out of the many he started with? If it was "simply" because she was a black woman, why go through a vetting process at all to pick the best candidate? She has serious qualifications and has fought to be where she's at now from what I can tell by her political history. It's many decades in the making

Kamala Harris - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Also, what's wrong with picking someone to be your partner with demographics in mind as part of the equation for why you pick them? Trump did this when he picked Mike Pence to legitimize himself to the Christian base in America when he ran in 2016. Biden wanted to reach out to a voting base that doesn't get much attention, and it seems to have helped when he won the presidency in 2020

The point I was making is that being a black woman was the first and foremost reason she was made VP. If she had been white, or just Asian, she simply wouldn't have become VP according to Biden's criteria.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

The point I was making is that being a black woman was the first and foremost reason she was made VP. If she had been white, or just Asian, she simply wouldn't have become VP according to Biden's criteria.

So you denigrate her on the basis of Joe Biden's criteria for choosing a VP? Great reasoning!

 

[LadyJane]

Not sure what prosecutorial skills would have to do with being a VP, or even a president.

Always prepared with an attention to detail, methodically taking people to task when required, loaded with confidence yet measured with humility and steady as rain in the face of adversity. If those aren't qualities that make her ideal for the world stage I just don’t know what are.

 

[Soandso]

The point I was making is that being a black woman was the first and foremost reason she was made VP. If she had been white, or just Asian, she simply wouldn't have become VP according to Biden's criteria.

I addressed this point in my post. Did you want to address my counter points?

 

[Argentbear]

Not sure what prosecutorial skills would have to do with being a VP, or even a president. Those skills haven't netted her any successes so far, and she still has a greater disapproval rating than Trump.
Her skills also failed her miserably in attempting to prosecute her way to being the 2020 presidential nominee for the dems. She was the first to drop out of the primaries.

maybe if she had been a reality television show host you would respect her more

 

[Argentbear]

The point I was making is that being a black woman was the first and foremost reason she was made VP. If she had been white, or just Asian, she simply wouldn't have become VP according to Biden's criteria.

Actually Biden only vowed to select a woman as his running mate. As for qualifications to quote Biden on the topic: "“The most important thing is that there has to be someone who, the day after they’re picked, is prepared to be president of the United States of America if something happened,”

Biden's vetting committee (Lisa Blunt Rochester, Chris Dodd, Eric Garcetti, and Cynthia Hogan) vetted eight potential running mates for Biden including Senator Harris but also
Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmar,
UN Ambassador Susan Rice,
Sen Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts.
Wisconsin Sen. Tammy Baldwin,
Illinois Sen. Tammy Duckworth.
New Mexico Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham
and Janet Napolitano director of homeland security

Only 2 of the 8 candidates were African American showing your claims about a black woman being first and foremost criteria to be just wrong.

 

[Neelix]

So you denigrate her on the basis of Joe Biden's criteria for choosing a VP? Great reasoning!

If that was the POTUS's main reason for choosing her, why should the American public think much of her if that's her greatest trait?