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Biden says Russian interference in U.S. elections wouldn’t happen under his watch

Shaul

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In an interview Joe Biden complains about Russian interference in previous elections. He then says they wouldn’t interfere in U.S. elections under his tenure. Of course the election of 2016, and any Russian interference during it, happened during his tenure as Vice President.
o_O

 

Quetzal

A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
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In an interview Joe Biden complains about Russian interference in previous elections. He then says they wouldn’t interfere in U.S. elections under his tenure. Of course the election of 2016, and any Russian interference during it, happened during his tenure as Vice President.
If I remember correctly, Obama did take action. The long and short of it is that it is way more complicated than we may think. Which is why I think Biden would have a hard time with it as well.

FACT CHECK: Why Didn't Obama Stop Russia's Election Interference In 2016? | WAMU
 

Shaul

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If I remember correctly, Obama did take action. The long and short of it is that it is way more complicated than we may think. Which is why I think Biden would have a hard time with it as well.

FACT CHECK: Why Didn't Obama Stop Russia's Election Interference In 2016? | WAMU
So if a potential President Biden did as well as President Obama did would that be “good enough”? If it was good enough, then why do people complain of the interference that happened? If it wasn’t good enough, then why shouldn’t Biden be held to account for his part in the lacking?
 

Quetzal

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So if a potential President Biden did as well as President Obama did would that be “good enough”?
Not even close. I do not think any expense should be spared here and it should be a bi-partisan effort.

If it was good enough, then why do people complain of the interference that happened?
Victim complex and all that. People like to cheer for their team.

If it wasn’t good enough, then why shouldn’t Biden be held to account for his part in the lacking?
I mean, it is a bit of stretch. I would simply put him on neutral ground and say he doesn't have a plan so he shouldn't run his mouth. That'll never happen, of course.
 

Stanyon

WWMRD?
If some funny pictures (memes), some facebook ads, and leaking emails written by our own politicians undermined U.S. democracy then I would say the U.S. has far worse problems than the supposed Russians. It has been my opinion and have said from the beginning that all the problems of undermining democracy comes from within and not without.
 

Stevicus

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In an interview Joe Biden complains about Russian interference in previous elections. He then says they wouldn’t interfere in U.S. elections under his tenure. Of course the election of 2016, and any Russian interference during it, happened during his tenure as Vice President.
o_O


The video seemed more focused on his view that there would be no more NATO if Trump is re-elected. I think he's embellishing a bit.

However, I don't think anyone can make any explicit guarantees that there won't be any foreign interference or other such shenanigans in US elections. Of course, the president can make sure there's an apparatus in place to detect and defend against such interference, but even that wouldn't be 100%.

The only way we can truly protect our electoral process is for the voting public to be more astute and vigilant.

We live in an open society which values freedom of expression, freedom of the press, and freedom of speech. As such, we have to expect that there will always be those out there who are trying to "interfere," in one form or another. And when it comes to politics, there will be a certain amount of mudslinging, fake news, pandering, dirty tricks - and all kinds of other BS that clogs up the airwaves and social media.

People get too caught up in the drama and lose sight of the issues. Considering the nature of social media and how things can go viral, it seems relatively easy for a few key individuals to stir things up and create a ruckus. If people didn't get so caught up in it and looked at things more logically and rationally, they wouldn't get so easily suckered - and it would be that much more difficult for any outside agency to "interfere."
 

Quetzal

A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
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Of course, the president can make sure there's an apparatus in place to detect and defend against such interference, but even that wouldn't be 100%.

The only way we can truly protect our electoral process is for the voting public to be more astute and vigilant.
Yep!
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
In an interview Joe Biden complains about Russian interference in previous elections. He then says they wouldn’t interfere in U.S. elections under his tenure. Of course the election of 2016, and any Russian interference during it, happened during his tenure as Vice President.
o_O

Of course it won't be Russia, creepy Uncle Joe will be wooing China.
 

Shiranui117

Pronounced Shee-ra-noo-ee
Premium Member
Everybody's influencing everybody's elections. Social media and international news networks guarantee that. If Facebook, Twitter, Instagram or YouTube take politically biased action against any politician's or campaign's account, that is an interference in an election. If US media is promoted by US-based social media platforms to Internet users in other countries, that is US interference in a foreign election. Al-Jazeera is Qatari, DW is German, The Guardian is British, etc. As long as actual election processes aren't being hacked by foreign operatives (Russian, Chinese or otherwise), I don't see what the big concern is. Welcome to the Digital Age.
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
In an interview Joe Biden complains about Russian interference in previous elections. He then says they wouldn’t interfere in U.S. elections under his tenure. Of course the election of 2016, and any Russian interference during it, happened during his tenure as Vice President.
o_O


He was asleep for 2016 so it don't count! ;)
 

SugarOcean

¡pɹᴉǝM ʎɐʇS
Biden is such a kidder. Let us see what happened on grabby Joe's watch.

Joe Biden and the Framing of Trump: He Was in the Room | The Stream
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“He Was in the Room”
January 5, 2017. Oval Office. Vice President Joe Biden was in on the meeting with President Obama, FBI director James Comey, anti-Trump DOJ official Sally Yates, unmasking queen Susan Rice, virulent trump hater CIA director John Brennan and Director of National Intelligence turned CNN talking head James Clapper.

The topic was the Russia investigation. Sort of. The true topic was what to do about President-elect Trump. How much were they going to tell him about the investigation into the Russians? Or what we now know was a counter-intelligence operation against him.

This was the meeting Rice strangely recounted in a letter to herself minutes after Trump’s inauguration. The meeting where, according to Rice, Obama insisted everybody do things “by the book.” Why wouldn’t things be done by the book? Why say it? Can anyone say C-Y-A? (And what book are we talking about anyway? Clearly it wasn’t a law book. And God knows they didn’t have much use for the Good Book. I want to see this book. Can you get it on Amazon? And who but the grizzled chief in every ’80s cop buddy movie says “I want it done by the book” anyway?)

It was out of that meeting, according to Comey, that Clapper suggested Comey only tell Trump about the salacious details in the Steele Dossier. Comey flies to Trump Tower to “warn” Trump about the dirt, and that CNN is holding back on the dossier because they hadn’t found a news hook yet. “Somehow,” by the time Comey can even hail a cab back to the airport, CNN knows about his Trump Tower briefing. They have their hook. The Steele dossier is unleashed. (How’d you spend those 30 coins of silver, Clapper?) "


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And in 2018: CNN,has admitted to creating false news as has its reporters. It's a Left wing rag.
Joe Biden: Russian election meddling issue 'tricky as hell' - CNNPolitics
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Two days ago, Putin came to Rome and was greatly cheered and welcomed.

You must admit Americans are slightly Russophobic... :rolleyes:
 

sooda

Veteran Member
So if a potential President Biden did as well as President Obama did would that be “good enough”? If it was good enough, then why do people complain of the interference that happened? If it wasn’t good enough, then why shouldn’t Biden be held to account for his part in the lacking?

Did you read the link offered?

Consider for the moment that Putin has cancelled his nuclear agreement with the US and is holding Maher Al Assad's feet to the fire.
 
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