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Biden tanking

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
After what Trump knowingly tried to do, why would any person who likes America and democracy even consider voting for him? As Steven Hawking said about Trump shortly before he died: “He is a demagogue who seems to appeal to the lowest common denominator.”
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
Trump has sat down for many 1-2 hour interviews in the last couple months. Talking about all kinds of issues and policies. Biden can't do that. he is incapable of it. I agree democrats debate tactics are to throw race and bigotry at you. That is all they have because their ideology is non sensical and tyrannical. You never see democrats disagree with each other, that is a sign of cult thinking.
Trump is an unemployed, multi-state criminal defendant, so he gas plenty of time. Of course what he says is fraught with lies and absurdities that show he is still unfit for office.

Biden is busy, he has a job to do, but he does answer questions to journalists when he has a few minutes.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Have you seen Trumps plan if he gets reelected? He intends to retool the DOJ and go after those who opposed him.
It's ALL about him, and it begs the question as to why his defenders can't see that. Even his sister, who he says he's closer to than anyone else, and his neice say that he's 100% for himself.
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
Moderates, aka those who decide elections?

To be fair, at this point I think "moderate" is a misnomer for some of the voters in the US who describe themselves as such. In many parts of the world, supporting some of the things that some American "moderates" support would land a person squarely on the right side of the political spectrum, sometimes into territory that is socially taboo, or almost so, in some countries (e.g., opposing same-sex marriage or supporting abortion bans even while being more liberal on other issues, or opposing any tangible measures to tighten gun control despite mass shootings and the globally high rate of gun-related deaths that the US has).

This is not a comment about all or even most moderates in the US; just about what I see as a subset that would be far from "moderate" in other developed countries but is described as such in the US simply because some extremist and highly damaging views are more mainstream in its politics compared to most other developed countries.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
To be fair, at this point I think "moderate" is a misnomer for some of the voters in the US who describe themselves as such. In many parts of the world, supporting some of the things that some American "moderates" support would land a person squarely on the right side of the political spectrum, sometimes into territory that is socially taboo, or almost so, in some countries (e.g., opposing same-sex marriage or supporting abortion bans even while being more liberal on other issues, or opposing any tangible measures to tighten gun control despite mass shootings and the globally high rate of gun-related deaths that the US has).

This is not a comment about all or even most moderates in the US; just about what I see as a subset that would be far from "moderate" in other developed countries but is described as such in the US simply because some extremist and highly damaging views are more mainstream in its politics compared to most other developed countries.
I'm aware. It is was regarding American moderates, who out number Conservatives and Liberals. It's a needed group to win elections.
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
It seems that geriatrics, extremists and those with dangerous personality disorders. are favoured by both the Powers that be, and voters. when it comes to American preferences for senior office holders.
One or the other type is certain to win the next Presidency.
Either choice will speed the USA's decline still further.
As will the hunt for foreign countries to act as bogymen.
 

Jayhawker Soule

-- untitled --
Premium Member
It seems that geriatrics, extremists and those with dangerous personality disorders. are favoured by both the Powers that be ...

What an interesting and dispassionate evaluation of Obama (2008), Obama (2012), and Clinton (2016). How sad that the U.S. cannot seem to match the wisdom and political sophistication shown by the country that gave us the likes of Margaret Thatcher, Theresa May, Boris Johnson, and Liz Truss.
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
What an interesting and dispassionate evaluation of Obama (2008), Obama (2012), and Clinton (2016). How sad that the U.S. cannot seem to match the wisdom and political sophistication shown by the country that gave us the likes of Margaret Thatcher, Theresa May, Boris Johnson, and Liz Truss.

I never said any thing about the UK. Who's Tory party, in electing those leaders that you mention, has tried to emulate the USA in everything.
Fortunately Corbyn, from the extreme left, never became prime minister.

In the USA, while Clinton and even Jfk certainly had their character faults, Obama was the exception to the rule, but who's effectiveness was almost totally stymied by the political system.

In all that time our top spot was held almost exclusively by the Queen, and now the King. Both of whom have had a moderating influence on their first ministers, through their obligatory private weekly audiences. I am sure there must have been times when a prime minister would have much preferred not have to undergo such weekly scrutiny of their policies and actions.
 

esmith

Veteran Member
Well now it seems that Biden thinks he was at the site of the World Towers the day after 9/11/2021 and facts show that he was in Washington D.C. at the time.
How much longer will those that think Biden is mentaly comptent to be president.,


Then we all should see that everything has to be about him; for example
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Well now it seems that Biden thinks he was at the site of the World Towers the day after 9/11/2021 and facts show that he was in Washington D.C. at the time.
How much longer will those that think Biden is mentaly comptent to be president.,


Then we all should see that everything has to be about him; for example
And yet you support someone that thought that George Washington attacked the airports during the Revolutionary War. He tried to blame a teleprompter. How stupid do you need to be to read such a line and not go "Oh ****! I just screwed up".


Glass houses. You need to remember them.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I think I've been pretty transparent when it comes to communicating my contempt for Trump and many of his RF supporters. But their existence in no way justifies Biden being a dishonest right-centrist jerk.
There are many candidates that I would rather have. But I just get tired of Trump supporters going after Biden when their own choice is at least ten times worse.

And politics is local. At least that is the way that one should look at it. Biden is not a right centrist jerk. He is a left centrist jerk.
 

Jayhawker Soule

-- untitled --
Premium Member
... Biden has an excellent support staff and Kamala is no slouch. Plus, I don't see any other Dem who would likely catch the support of a majority of them.

I'm not at all sure that the ability to catch the support of the majority of Biden's support staff is a particularly useful metric. What is clear, however, is that the Biden administration's inertia is rapidly foreclosing whatever possibilities might have otherwise evolved.

And, yes, Kamala is no slouch. Neither was Hillary Clinton.
 
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