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Biden v Trump The big fight Thurs 27 June 2024
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Pogo
Well-Known Member
This election is not about a Biden gaffe, but about how many people will fall for the idea that we are emotionally uncomfortable and so lets vote for anything different. The battle is to dissuade them that this particular alternative is appropriate in spite of their desire for any alternative.
Grade school civics failed a long time ago.
Even if you are a hose head.
Pogo
Well-Known Member
2 hrs later, I have access what was so interesting, I will forward it.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I don't expect much on policy itself and what a policy entails and what they will do in going about it.
Instead......
It's an article by Michael Grynbaum sporting the headline: In This Debate, CNN Is the Decider
A couple of excerpts ...
- It is offering other networks a free simulcast of its debate, albeit with stipulations that have irked some rivals. One requirement is that any mention of the event, including onscreen program guides, must include CNN in the title. CNN even distributed a specific graphic to be used for promotions, complete with a pair of giant CNN logos — and a tiny blank space allotted for other networks to include their own branding.
- The other networks must also accommodate one of the biggest changes in CNN’s production: advertisements. [P] General-election debates have not previously included ads, a precedent set by CBS, which produced the very first televised debate in 1960. At the time, though, Robert Sarnoff, then the president of NBC, argued otherwise. “It is an antiquated notion that a so-called public service program is not a public service if it is sponsored,” Mr. Sarnoff wrote. “By this odd reasoning, a broadcaster cannot serve the public unless he loses money.”
NEW YORK (AP) — CNN’s leadership is preaching patience even though thousands of viewers are abandoning the network during its attempted turnaround, with no indication yet whether it will be rewarded.
Cable news ratings are down across the board compared to 2022, when Russia’s invasion of Ukraine was fresh in the news. CNN’s dip is most dramatic — 61% in prime time in March, with Fox News Channel down 27% and MSNBC off by 12%, according to the Nielsen company.
Fox averaged 2.09 million viewers in prime time in March, with MSNBC at 1.14 million and CNN at 473,000, Nielsen said. In the key 25-54 age demographic for advertisers, CNN is seeing some of its lowest numbers in decades. [source]
Pogo
Well-Known Member
I do and it works for those interested. (to subduction didn't know it worked till recently)
Value for money
In This Debate, CNN Is the Decider
One network is in charge of every aspect of the Biden-Trump debate, a major shift from previous years. Tens of millions of viewers are expected to be watching.
Read it while I am enjoying being outdoors.
Clizby Wampuscat
Well-Known Member
The format is catered to Biden and I think Biden's team thought Trump would not agree to it. No audience, no notes, no interrupting, two commercial breaks so Biden can rest. It also has two leftist "moderators" on a leftist news network who will no doubt help Biden if he gets into trouble as we have seen in 2020 debates. I am sure the articles are already written on how Biden was great, we will see.
I actually hope Biden does ok, I don't want him changed out for a better candidate.
McBell
Unbound
Is it not a standard given that whatever one side demands of the other side the demanding side is also required to comply?It looks like even Trump knows that backing out at the last minute would be very very bad for him, so they are lying about Biden. And each lie is actually an admission of guilt. Trump has said that maybe he will pretend to lose. That did not go over well at all. So now they are lying about Biden using various drugs. Ronnie Johnson . .. oops, I meant Jackson is lying about Biden being on drugs. He is accusing him of using various drugs to fight signs of senility. Oddly enough he proposes that the drugs that Biden is using are the same ones that he supplied (possibly illegally) to the Trump White House. And now he is demanding that Biden be drug tested but has made no such demands for Trump.
I would not mind personally if both sides were independently tested for drugs.
Ex-White House doctor Ronny Jackson calls on Biden to take drug test before Trump debate
Former White House physician and current House Republican Rep. Ronny Jackson is pushing President Biden to take a cognitive test before his debate with former President Trump.www.foxnews.com
For example, the drug teat.
Would not BIOTH candidates be required to take one, for the exact same drugs?
The cognitive test, same thing right, BOTH candidates would be required to take it, right?
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Okay, so what?
And once again, so what?
Yes, that is because one side could not follow the rules of debate. This insures a proper and fair debate. So far you have two "men" claims and one that shows that CNN is doing a good job.
That is not unreasonable since they did all of the work of setting it up and getting the candidates to agree to a debate.
Okay, that does not seem to be quite right, but I can see why they did it. They want the analysis to be at the end of the debate and are enforcing that on everyone.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Not only that, but Trump's "cognitive test" was given to him by Ronny Johnso . . . Hah! You are not catching me again! Jackson. A MAGA member that provided drugs to the White House when Trump was President. He is not exactly unbiased nor does he appear to be reliable as a doctor. I do believe he lost his post with the Navy for how he abused his position.
“So what?” is right. I didn’t find the article that interesting.
That's Trump, a reality TV personality that has no genuine interest in anyone other than himself. Conservatives certainly aren't taking politics seriously.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
That is fine. They are safe in their echo chamber.. So many of them never can seem to understand that it is not the Republicans or the Democrats that decide an election It is the man in the middle. The Democrats appear to be very aware of that where the MAGA's just note that all of their Republican friends are MAGA's too.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I'm talking about both. Not just Trump.
And why not test for their cholesterol at the same time? And how about a white blood cell count? And sugar levels, and kidney function, and sodium, and a test for heavy metals, and calcium levels, and liver function, and electrolytes, and a lipid panel, and did I say red blood cells?
Pogo
Well-Known Member
Not only that, I had the same cognitive test given to me by the visiting nurse when I retired, I aced it too, it was a basic test to see if you had the minimum cognitive facilities to live on your own. Could you repeat a set of random words 20 minutes or so after hearing them the first time. person woman man camera tv. lol it is almost embarrassing in its simplicity but there are probably people who fail and are then referred for further testing.
Laughing about such things is a bit sick.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
He was laughing at Trump for claiming that the test was very difficult. He was not laughing at those that had trouble with the test. He was given the same sort of test that Trump took and passed it and said that it is so easy that most pass it. The test does not indicate intelligence or a lack of it. It is only designed to test for possible early onset dementia.
I know exactly who he was laughing at ...
... and who he was not thinking about.
... but I suspect that many if not most of those with loved ones confronting cognitive decline are not laughing.