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Bidens hate speech with Marines visible in the background while he's delivering his hate speech.
- Thread starter Twilight Hue
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It's a good point, well made.
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I think he just meant he hated the speech.
Hate? I guess telling the truth is hate to some because they don't like spades being called spades. And January 6th was just an ordinary tour and not the equivalent of the Beer Hall Putsch.
And contrasting the call from Trump to beat up protesters, Biden nailed it 100% and with humor:
"Look, our democracy is imperfect. It always has been," Biden said. "Notwithstanding those folks you hear on the other side there. They're entitled to be outrageous, this is a democracy. Good manners is nothing they've ever suffered from."
I'm guessing you didn't listen to the speech then -- or read it (you can find it here). Where is the call for violence in this quote from the speech?
"We, the people, will not let anyone or anything tear us apart. Today, there are dangers around us we cannot allow to prevail. We hear — you’ve heard it, more and more talk about violence as an acceptable political tool in this country. It’s not. It can never be an acceptable tool. So, I want to say this plain and simple: There is no place for political violence in America, period, none, ever."
Shadow Wolf
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The one who cleared out peaceful protestors for a photo-op in front of a church with a mislead general who didn't want to be there?
Bush Jr and his confusing Mission Accomplished speech?
PureX
Veteran Member
So, ... you think THIS was the most important take-away from a speech accusing a former US president and his supporters of endangering US democracy?
Agreed. And the reverse is true as well. If you're for Trump and MAGA, you're naturally anti-Constitution and anti-American.
Personally, I support anything Biden does that helps the Democrats or hurts the Republicans. Tradition is out the window. Forbearance is out the window. And unity is out the window. How presidents have behaved in the past is no longer relevant.
I heard the governor of AK Hutchinson earlier berating Biden for divisive language, noting that it's his job and also a campaign promise to unify the nation. I disagree. Biden made the effort. He offered his open hand to the Republicans and they angrily spat upon it. Maya Angelou famously said, “When people show you who they are, believe them the first time.” Biden has no duty to continue using softer language in the hope of not inflaming the right. It's a given that they'll become agitated and possibly violent. Like the poet says, believe them. They aren't interested. The Republican leadership only cares about itself, and Republican voters just want to own the libs. Fine. The feeling is contagious. It's time for Joe to step up and begin owning the pubs beginning with Trump and the MAGA contingent.
Also, Biden is facing the possibility of violence from unhappy MAGA if and when Trump is indicted. It was probably useful to present a show of force to them. This was not the gentle Joe that we know, the conciliatory, diplomatic Joe pleading for cooperation from these people. This was Joe ready to use lethal force if necessary, a message to would be "patriots" that didn't learn from the J6 convictions or from the MAGA shot in the face trying to breach the Capitol that they're overmatched and to stand down.
I think it's brilliant politicking. The enemy is the mainstream Republican party, but Joe is using language like ultra-MAGA, and emphasizing that this doesn't apply to most Republican voters. But it does apply to most elected Republicans in the federal government. It gives Joe plausible deniability while implicating the entire party that supported Trump and still does. And it keep Trump the topic of discussion leading up to the midterms. First came the J6 findings in the late spring and early summer, all Trump all the time. Then, when they went into hibernation to review and curate more damning footage, came the search of Mar-a-Lago and weeks of negative coverage of Trump. Now, Joe is turning up the heat and pointing it at Trump, and will hopefully continue to make Republican candidates answer for their comments and votes regarding election hoax, voting against impeachment, and the J6 committee - all Trump. And do the same with non-Trump issues as well, such as voting on abortion, infant formula, infrastructure, and climate mitigation measures.
This thwarts the Republicans, who would like to make the election a referendum on inflation, gas prices, and lately, crime, but they have largely been silenced thanks to keeping Trump in the spotlight, not to mention that gas prices have been falling continuously for nearly three month and inflation seems to have eased up a bit.
PureX
Veteran Member
"We, the people, will not let anyone or anything tear us apart. Today, there are dangers around us we cannot allow to prevail. We hear — you’ve heard it, more and more talk about violence as an acceptable political tool in this country. It’s not. It can never be an acceptable tool. So, I want to say this plain and simple: There is no place for political violence in America, period, none, ever."
Well, except for the violent revolution that CREATED this country. And except for this part of the Declaration of Independence ...
"We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness—-That to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the Consent of the Governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these Ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its Foundation on such Principles, and organizing its Powers in such Form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."
I agree with using violent revolution to put an end to bad government. Often, that will be the only means available. I would even agree with the 'MAGA revolution' if those idiots had even the remotest idea who their real enemy is. But they don't. ... Still, I find a life long political hack like Joe Biden telling us all how violence is an unacceptable response to bad government to be absurdly stupid and self-serving.
Well, except for the violent revolution that CREATED this country. And except for this part of the Declaration of Independence ...
"We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness—-That to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the Consent of the Governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these Ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its Foundation on such Principles, and organizing its Powers in such Form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."
I agree with using violent revolution to put an end to bad government. Often, that will be the only means available. I would even agree with the 'MAGA revolution' if those idiots had even the remotest idea who their real enemy is. But they don't. ... Still, I find a life long political hack like Joe Biden telling us all how violence is an unacceptable response to bad government to be absurdly stupid and self-serving.
The thing that always gets me about these maga revolutionaries is that they still consider themselves Americans. The revolutionaries in the British colonies didn’t call themselves loyal British subjects. The British loyalists were the ones fighting against the revolutionaries. Today American patriots are the ones opposing the “MAGA revolution”.
Indeed I watched such actions not from the news, but from their own livestreams
(Okay livestreams reacted to by streamers I like.)
Sure the streamers in question were avowed leftists, but it’s not like they doctored the in real time footage of the MAGA protestors who filmed the entire event from their own devices.
We just watched with saddened awe (and popcorn)
Truth in love
Well-Known Member
I thought we had a law against using the military for political gain. Did I miss something on that?
PureX
Veteran Member
I understand their anger, and I am not against their willingness to fight against this totally corrupted government. But they have NO IDEA who the real enemy is. And in their profound ignorance all they want to do is burn the whole place to the ground thinking some kind of new "wild west" will emerge from the ashes, where they get to be lone rangers riding the prairies with their assault weapons and camo-fashion hats, dispensing "shock and awe" justice as they see fit.
It's patently insane.
What keeps astonishing me ─ though of course it shouldn't ─ is the Republican inability to see that their own best interest is served by winning the center. No surprise, I guess, that it speaks of fanaticism.
Meanwhile, as you say, the steady pressure of law and due procedure against Trump is discrediting him in the most effective way, and reaching the center, where the air is not quite so full of delusions, dreams and imagined terrors to which Trump, that weirdly broken, endlessly dangerous fellow-human of ours, is in some unexplained way the answer.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
The one not supported by the Marxists and Communists.
Hate to break this to you. But no communists or Marxists claim Biden, let alone support him. He’s centre right at best
Jesus,
I’m a hardcore lefty and Biden is laughable to me, mate. He doesn’t even register as left wing to me.
Ffs
How far right are you guys????
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Hate to take the winds out of your sails.
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Left-center unity in 2020
Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
Strange but you did not answer how far right you are
Any reason you left that out?