Biden's new inflation spokesman

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What’s keystone?
Sorry I’m not American

There was a pipeline that was supposed to bring crude oil from Canada to the US. It was low grade oil from Canadian oil sands. Not all refineries can process such low grade crude. There are some along the Gulf of Mexico. It was put on hold under Obama due to environmental concerns, Trump who is no friend of the environment restarted the construction and then Biden canned it.

It was only one source of oil for the US and a rather minor one when one looks at all of the info. The oil would still be bought at international rates, the pipeline would only make if a bit less expensive to ship. Ultimately it would be about 1% of our oil supply. We would not be getting some outrageous deal on that petroleum so the question how would that affect the US economy?

 

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What’s keystone?
Sorry I’m not American

Keystone Pipeline - Wikipedia

 

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There was a pipeline that was supposed to bring crude oil from Canada to the US. It was low grade oil from Canadian oil sands. Not all refineries can process such low grade crude. There are some along the Gulf of Mexico. It was put on hold under Obama due to environmental concerns, Trump who is no friend of the environment restarted the construction and then Biden canned it.

It was only one source of oil for the US and a rather minor one when one looks at all of the info. The oil would still be bought at international rates, the pipeline would only make if a bit less expensive to ship. Ultimately it would be about 1% of our oil supply. We would not be getting some outrageous deal on that petroleum so the question how would that affect the US economy?

Try telling the rest of the story for once.

Tom Cotton Pinpoints the True Cause of Inflation

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President Biden's first action was to block the Keystone pipeline. Next, he ended oil & gas leases on federal land. Then, he appointed anti-energy progressives to his cabinet. These actions reduced our supply and drove up the cost of energy.

 

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Try telling the rest of the story for once.

Tom Cotton Pinpoints the True Cause of Inflation

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President Biden's first action was to block the Keystone pipeline. Next, he ended oil & gas leases on federal land. Then, he appointed anti-energy progressives to his cabinet. These actions reduced our supply and drove up the cost of energy.

i see that you still do not understand the concept of a reliable source. Or for that matter an appropriate authority. You failed twice.

 

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i see that you still do not understand the concept of a reliable source. Or for that matter an appropriate authority. You failed twice.

Only in your view.

 

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I do get tired of the supporters of Trump playing "heads I win, tails you lose".

There are two houses of Congress. The House of Representatives, which was held by the Democrats for the last half of trump's reign, and the Senate, which the Republicans held the entire time. How is it possibly the Democrats fault when it came to spending when they only had the House? For part of the time;

I know.

 

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Nope, it does not work that way. The President has the ability to veto. That is why we have a President in the first place. I am not the one that slept through US Civics. If you had read the Constitution you would know of a President's veto power too.

I know, Trump was horrible so you have to try to pass the buck. We understand.

You are ignoring two things. First is that the President can only veto a Bill that exists. Since only the House can originate an appropriation Bill, only the House bears the onus for all spending Bills and hence all debts incurred. Second the Presidential veto is not absolute. The Congress can override it, and has done so many times. So to blame a President for the problems of an appropriations Bill because he has a limited veto power is nonsense and bogus. Especially given the prospect of a government shutdown as a result of a veto.

It works exactly as I wrote. The Constitution, in Article I, Section 7 reads, "All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives". It is completely clear. Only the House can initiate any spending. Not the President.

The Party that has controlled the House since 2019 has been the Democrats. All of the massive spending Bills since the last two years of the Trump Administration originated and could not have happened without the initiation of the Democrats. All of the massive deficits were authorized and created by Democrats.

I know you want to blame President Trump for the Democrat deficits of his last two years in office. But that is not how it works. Those deficits belong to the Democrats of the House. And the massive spending Bills since President Biden took office all belong to the Democrats of the House and Biden together.

 

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Uh, yeah, no ****. The former affects the latter.

So you agree there are global and local sources of inflation. So asking a President to control the things he can is reasonable. President Biden worked with Congress to pass massive spending Bills. He had that control. Those Bills and their massive spending are domestic sources of U.S. inflation.

 

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Only in your view.

No, not in just my view. You have to know that is a very stupid thing to say. How to find a reliable source has been explained to you many times. You chose an article by a rather ignorant or dishonest Republican that made claims that showed that he is not qualified for the job that he holds.

 

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So you agree there are global and local sources of inflation. So asking a President to control the things he can is reasonable. President Biden worked with Congress to pass massive spending Bills. He had that control. Those Bills and their massive spending are domestic sources of U.S. inflation.

Please what bills are these? We have been over this before. The only ones not related to the Pandemic have not gone into effect yet. How does that cause inflation?

The spending that he has proposed, such as the much needed spending for the infrastructure has not occurred yet. I do wish that the Trumettes here would get their claims from other sources than just Republican talking points.

You guys can do better. Research your "facts'. Don't trust them just because they come from the politicians on your side.

 

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You are ignoring two things. First is that the President can only veto a Bill that exists. Since only the House can originate an appropriation Bill, only the House bears the onus for all spending Bills and hence all debts incurred. Second the Presidential veto is not absolute. The Congress can override it, and has done so many times. So to blame a President for the problems of an appropriations Bill because he has a limited veto power is nonsense and bogus. Especially given the prospect of a government shutdown as a result of a veto.

And if the President does not like it he can veto it. Then they have to write another bill or override the veto. You keep demonstrating that you failed civics. Oh wait! You mentioned the veto and then made a laughably wrong claim. Overriding the veto is rare. It takes a 2/3 majority in both the House and the Senate to override a veto. The Democrats do not hold anywhere near 2/3 of either.

It works exactly as I wrote. The Constitution, in Article I, Section 7 reads, "All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives". It is completely clear. Only the House can initiate any spending. Not the President.

The Party that has controlled the House since 2019 has been the Democrats. All of the massive spending Bills since the last two years of the Trump Administration originated and could not have happened without the initiation of the Democrats. All of the massive deficits were authorized and created by Democrats.

I know you want to blame President Trump for the Democrat deficits of his last two years in office. But that is not how it works. Those deficits belong to the Democrats of the House. And the massive spending Bills since President Biden took office all belong to the Democrats of the House and Biden together.

Sort of. Yes, bills start in the House. But the President proposes a budget every year. It shows what he wants passed. The House does not need to follow it. But they usually try to on at least a few because until 2,016 the President was usually not an incompetent bumbler. It then goes to the Senate and they write their own version. If there are differences they have to work them out and a final version is voted on in both parts.

Then it goes to the President. He can veto it. The House knew this Your claim only works if the Democrats had a 2/3 control of both the House and the Senate. They did not during Trump's ill fated reign. That puts the blame on the person that sings it, the President.

 

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No, not in just my view. You have to know that is a very stupid thing to say. How to find a reliable source has been explained to you many times. You chose an article by a rather ignorant or dishonest Republican that made claims that showed that he is not qualified for the job that he holds.

Only in your sanctimonious view.

 

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Only in your sanctimonious view.

No, and that was a personal attack.

You know that there is news with a left bias, a right bias, and ones in the middle. The biases sources are of no value in a debate. I know it must suck that all of your beliefs are only supported by people that are either very ignorant, kooks, or openly lie. That should really tell you something. Companies that rate news as to their bias and accuracy need to be able to defend those ratings. Very often they will give specific articles that their ratings are based upon and analyze them for people.

For example not only did your source use the brain dead "Keystone Pipeline" example. He also mentioned that Biden had frozen government leases. How the heck is that supposed to add to inflation? They did not put a freeze on existing leases, they could only freeze giving out new ones. And it takes years to go from unexplored land to a producing well. This is an action that could add to rising gas prices years down the road, but will do nothing right now. The man is either so ignorant that he should go back to his farm or openly lying.

You could do this work yourself. You are clearly bright enough. Look at the claims of the various politicians and see if the facts support them. Wikipedia, which you did use for the Keystone Pipeline in one of your posts, can be a very good place to start. On an article like that both sides will have tried to edit it, but edits that are not supported are removed from Wiki articles and if one keeps posting false claims in articles they can easily lose their right to post there. It makes the site very neutral politically.