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Big bang question

Spiderman

Veteran Member
How did the planets form from the big explosion? You don’t see round objects form when something blows up. Seriously, if there is no creator, it amazes me that the planets are as round as they are from an explosion. And how that explosion could create stars and anything material just amazes me!

Where did the energy for that explosion come from?
 

Sha'irullah

رسول الآلهة
Because of gravity. Matter is warped into round objects because of us living in a 3 dimensional environment. We have 3 spatial planes and anything that warps that will express those planes to a greater or lesser extent. Planets are just a perfect exemplification of this and thus spheres are so mathematically important along with cubes although spheres are a tad bit harder to calculate.

Indeed I believe in the teleological argument but at the end of the day it is difficult to say where the energy came from if one does not know. Such a dilemma is that of philosophy and mathematics as it is not in our physical capacity to seek this knowledge.
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
Because of gravity. Matter is warped into round objects because of us living in a 3 dimensional environment. We have 3 spatial planes and anything that warps that will express those planes to a greater or lesser extent. Planets are just a perfect exemplification of this and thus spheres are so mathematically important along with cubes although spheres are a tad bit harder to calculate.

Indeed I believe in the teleological argument but at the end of the day it is difficult to say where the energy came from if one does not know. Such a dilemma is that of philosophy and mathematics as it is not in our physical capacity to seek this knowledge.
The Gods have blessed you with intelligence :)
 

Phantasman

Well-Known Member
How did the planets form from the big explosion? You don’t see round objects form when something blows up. Seriously, if there is no creator, it amazes me that the planets are as round as they are from an explosion. And how that explosion could create stars and anything material just amazes me!

Where did the energy for that explosion come from?
And then you have the Flat Earthers on media now. Ignorance in a high form, IMO.

If the big bang is a result from a mere thought (from God), then my view that God is so far above us that we "cannot" know him seems more truthful than some guy with a white beard sitting above the clouds talking with the Jews.
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
Premium Member
First of all, the Big bang was NOT an explosion in any usual sense.

In an explosion, matter is propelled via pressure outwards into already existing space.

In the Big Bang, it was space itself that is expanding. The matter is just carried along for the ride.

Second, planets didn't arise until considerably later. The heavier elements (like carbon, oxygen, nitrogen, iron, silicon, aluminum, etc----anything past lithium in the periodic table) were formed either in the interiors of stars or when those stars exploded in supernova.

Third, gravity is something that is not as relevant on the human scale as an organizational force, but it very important on the scale of planets and above. Any distribution of gas and dust will have irregularities and gravity tends to make those irregularities larger, which causes the cloud of gas and dust to split up and condense. When this happens, spheres are the effect because that shape has the least gravitational energy of any arrangement. (this is related to the fact that, of any shape, spheres have the smallest surface area for a given volume).

For objects large enough for gravity to be important, roundness is the norm.
 

PureX

Veteran Member
How did the planets form from the big explosion? You don’t see round objects form when something blows up. Seriously, if there is no creator, it amazes me that the planets are as round as they are from an explosion. And how that explosion could create stars and anything material just amazes me!

Where did the energy for that explosion come from?
This is the ultimate existential question. Where did all that energy, and the rules that govern how it is being expressed, come from?

We do not know.
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
How did the planets form from the big explosion? You don’t see round objects form when something blows up. Seriously, if there is no creator, it amazes me that the planets are as round as they are from an explosion. And how that explosion could create stars and anything material just amazes me!

Where did the energy for that explosion come from?
It is pretty amazing. Isaac Newton also found it was amazing and chalked it up to god even with his awesome intellect and maths on gravity. Newton could not figure some of the equations out in how planets just don’t fly out of the solar system. That being said, once Einstein came into the scene explaining his theory on gravity, it put a lot of the ignorance on that to bed, but it’s pretty awesome still. People are still trying to figure out how gravity really works but all experiments to this day keep confirming what Einstein predicted.
 

David T

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Because of gravity. Matter is warped into round objects because of us living in a 3 dimensional environment. We have 3 spatial planes and anything that warps that will express those planes to a greater or lesser extent. Planets are just a perfect exemplification of this and thus spheres are so mathematically important along with cubes although spheres are a tad bit harder to calculate.

Indeed I believe in the teleological argument but at the end of the day it is difficult to say where the energy came from if one does not know. Such a dilemma is that of philosophy and mathematics as it is not in our physical capacity to seek this knowledge.
In actuality we exist in a singular reality that can be abstracted into an infinite amount of dimensions, because of a singular dysfunctionally labeled region of the brain self labeled by it as "higher functioning". Zero evidence of that literally being true. So the capacity to split reality is Co equal to opening a coconut. Look I have 2 coconuts. Then, the magic 4 omg, then 8,16,32,64,128,256,512,1024,2048,4096... Omg reality is a computer and I to lala land we go. Why there is 10 500 universes of me of many many me's frodo lives!!! And Doctor who is real real real.
 

Jonathan Ainsley Bain

Logical Positivist
How did the planets form from the big explosion? You don’t see round objects form when something blows up. Seriously, if there is no creator, it amazes me that the planets are as round as they are from an explosion. And how that explosion could create stars and anything material just amazes me!

Where did the energy for that explosion come from?

There are numerous arguments showing that modern cosmology is
no better than medieval superstition.
Let me just elucidate one.

If all the matter in the universe were in a space a billion light-years across,
then the escape-velocity of that would be greater than the velocity of light.
(Do the math yourself)

So if Relativity is correct, then we have a blatant contradiction because
if the escape-velocity is greater than light-speed at this stage then the particles in the
universe would have to be moving faster than that to expand beyond that stage.

It hinges on another fallacy called, 'critical-density' which is so filled with
contradictions, that we may as well go back to the notion of elephants
and turtles holding it all together, which is at least somewhat mirthful
and thus offers us something of use, eh?
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
Premium Member
There are numerous arguments showing that modern cosmology is
no better than medieval superstition.
Let me just elucidate one.

If all the matter in the universe were in a space a billion light-years across,
then the escape-velocity of that would be greater than the velocity of light.
(Do the math yourself)

So if Relativity is correct, then we have a blatant contradiction because
if the escape-velocity is greater than light-speed at this stage then the particles in the
universe would have to be moving faster than that to expand beyond that stage.

But since 'escape' isn't what is claimed, this is irrelevant.
 

Guy Threepwood

Mighty Pirate
How did the planets form from the big explosion? You don’t see round objects form when something blows up. Seriously, if there is no creator, it amazes me that the planets are as round as they are from an explosion. And how that explosion could create stars and anything material just amazes me!

Where did the energy for that explosion come from?

It took a lot of extremely precise mathematics to create what we take for granted as 'natural' - if for some reason we want to forbid a creator, the explanation for this has pretty much come down to some sort of infinite probability machine (multiverse) that can create absolutely anything by chance..... except God of course, that would defeat the whole point!
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
It took a lot of extremely precise mathematics to create what we take for granted as 'natural' - if for some reason we want to forbid a creator, the explanation for this has pretty much come down to some sort of infinite probability machine (multiverse) that can create absolutely anything by chance..... except God of course, that would defeat the whole point!
The problem is that we do have evidence for the universe. Evidence for a god . . . not so much.
 
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