Bill+Hillary vs Hillary+Bill

[idav]

For all we know they can be used for the testing of drugs, making money off the criminal drug smugglers. Who knows.

LOL, I find all the conspiracies rather fascinating. For all we know they can be Batman and Robin type vigilantes.

 

[Lighthouse]

LOL, I find all the conspiracies rather fascinating. For all we know they can be Batman and Robin type vigilantes.

I think that many are just naive and living in a fairy tale world that greed, power, and control is all cupcakes and rainbows. Lack of common sense.

 

[idav]

I think that many are just naive and living in a fairy tale world that greed, power, and control is all cupcakes and rainbows. Lack of common sense.

Well I always appreciate insinuations of being naive but some people are not going to ignore the greed and power of the other candidate just cause the government doesn't do what they want all the time.

 

[idav]

That is one view.
But I say that attacking other countries makes things worse.

World war 2 didn't do us any good just sitting on the side lines as war grew on the other side of the world. There isn't always an easy answer, responding to 9/11 wasn't the issue, responding emotionally was the issue, and it wasn't Clintons being misinformed about weapons of mass destruction to get the war votes.

 

[Revoltingest]

World war 2 didn't do us any good just sitting on the side lines as war grew on the other side of the world. There isn't always an easy answer, responding to 9/11 wasn't the issue, responding emotionally was the issue, and it wasn't Clintons being misinformed about weapons of mass destruction to get the war votes.

It should be obvious that there are wars of self defense,
& then there are offensive wars which don't serve us.
I'm OK with WW2.
I opposed attacking Iran (by proxy), Iraq, & Afghanistan.
These last 3 weakened us.

 

[Lighthouse]

Well I always appreciate insinuations of being naive but some people are not going to ignore the greed and power of the other candidate just cause the government doesn't do what they want all the time.

Keep illegal immigrants locked up in private prison for profit or set them free, I think that the choice is rather easy for me.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

For all we know they can be used for the testing of drugs

That's very unlikely. Not impossible, but such things would also fall under the jurisdiction of the facilities conducting/administering the tests, meanings it's either going to happen regardless (and it has in the past), or the extra difficulty prevents it.

making money off the criminal drug smugglers

That's just normal prison culture, private or public jurisdiction.

Who knows. All we see is the fairy tale story painting of how good our government is by trying to help illegal immigrants.

What does that have to do with private prisons? Their lack of oversight, lack of regulation in the punishment they administer, and the very notion of "justice for profit?"

 

[Cassandra]

Consider our plight.
Hillary voted to start the Iraq war.
She continually voted to fund both wars.
She's threatened to obliterate Iran.
She wants to grow government & raise taxes.
She's socially conservative (by my standards).
I don't like Trump.
I just find him a lower risk.

Lefties constantly accuse us of sexism.
Our country has caused the deaths of a million people
in Iran alone, thereby creating a dedicated enemy.
Hillary represents continuing this status quo.
If hating the wasting of over a trillion dollars attacking
other countries is sexist, than I am that. And because I
faulted Obama for the same, I'm racist too....deplorable, eh.

People in the US were enraged and wanted revenge. Bush fueled it and the climate thus created was such that you were something of traitor if you questioned his policy, and the American people believed him. Besides how were the other senators to know it was all based on manufactured lies by their REPUBLICAN government. We only learned that after the fact.

Tell me which Republicans voted for the Iraq war too, so we can hate them with the same fever as Hillary.

By the way what was Trumps position at the time?
You seem to suggest he was against the Iraq war then.

 

[Lighthouse]

That's very unlikely. Not impossible, but such things would also fall under the jurisdiction of the facilities conducting/administering the tests, meanings it's either going to happen regardless (and it has in the past), or the extra difficulty prevents it.

That's just normal prison culture, private or public jurisdiction.

What does that have to do with private prisons? Their lack of oversight, lack of regulation in the punishment they administer, and the very notion of "justice for profit?"

It has to do with the Bill policy and the added Hillary language of bed quotas. All while they try to paint this picture that they are helping illegal immigrants while they bank. This extent could never be done in public prisons, where it's easier open to public scrutiny and media. There is information on people. Privately, anything can happen. They have been rounding up illegal immigrants for years, imprisoning them, and lying about helping them become citizens. I suppose it isn't a lie if they make some, in order to promote the "good image." There isn't much information on illegal immigrants. They can say they deported 20,000 and no one would ever know if they killed those 20,000 or anything. They can just disappear and nobody would even know.

There are significant differences between private and public, immigration and citizen imprisonment.

 

[Revoltingest]

People in the US were enraged and wanted revenge. Bush fueled it and the climate thus created was such that you were something of traitor if you questioned his policy, and the American people believed him. Besides how were the other senators to know it was all based on manufactured lies by their REPUBLICAN government. We only learned that after the fact.

Tell me which Republicans voted for the Iraq war too, so we can hate them with the same fever as Hillary.

By the way what was Trumps position at the time?
You seem to suggest he was against the Iraq war then.

I suggest nothing about Trump's position at the time.
But I opposed the war.
And I preferred Bernie to both for this reason.