bin Laden is dead and al Qaeda is on the run.

[tytlyf]

no one

When dealing with terrorists would you prefer which of the following?

Drone strikes

Boots on ground

?

 

[esmith]

No one knows how to effectively deal with radical Islamist. Not even GWB as indicated by the attack on 9-11....Which there was ample intelligence provided leading up to the event. He and all of his staff were briefed about the potential threat. His blunder on Weapons Of Mass Destruction was an outright lie that cost us lives and money. So it would seem, by your logic, none of our officials can deal effectively with with those who seek to cause us harm. You can't prevent every attack...

As I stated before, there has not been any concerted policy set forth by this or the past administrations.

 

[esmith]

When dealing with terrorists would you prefer which of the following?

Drone strikes

Boots on ground

?

Probably a combination of both along with some new ideas on how to deal with them beyond the past and present policies. No, I do not have the answer, but I'm sure it is out there somewhere.

 

[tytlyf]

Probably a combination of both along with some new ideas on how to deal with them beyond the past and present policies. No, I do not have the answer, but I'm sure it is out there somewhere.

The answer to dealing with terrorism is science and technology to monitor airwaves, media, satellite, etc.
I've already seen testing of drone camera video technology that allows you to record a certain area/city realtime and record past events.
Example: A series of drones are set to use cameras to cover a city. Those cameras are recording 24/7 and backing up the data. Say there was a robbery yesterday at Noon at a 7-11.
The technology would allow the data backup to look at that 7-11, who drove up, who left, and follow the vehicle all the way home yesterday. There is no where to hide.

 

[Falvlun]

What is the point of this thread...?

The point is to show that the Obama Administration didn't in fact deal a decimating blow to Al Qaeda by taking out Osama bin Laden and putting all of their top ranking officials on the run. The increased "chatter" is supposed to prove this. Apparently, since Al Qaeda still exists, that means Obama sucks.

 

[I.S.L.A.M617]

The point is to show that the Obama Administration didn't in fact deal a decimating blow to Al Qaeda by taking out Osama bin Laden and putting all of their top ranking officials on the run. The increased "chatter" is supposed to prove this. Apparently, since Al Qaeda still exists, that means Obama sucks.

What does that say about Bush, who couldn't even find Osama?

 

[esmith]

What does that say about Bush, who couldn't even find Osama?

Do you really think that Obama found bin-Laden? If I remember correctly it was information obtained from various sources and at various times that covered the Bush and Obama time period. As much as there are those that say Obama got bin-Laden they are incorrect. Seal Team 6 got bin-Laden, all Obama did was give the go order. Saying that Obama got bin-Laden would be the same as saying that Truman won WWII.

 

[I.S.L.A.M617]

Do you really think that Obama found bin-Laden? If I remember correctly it was information obtained from various sources and at various times that covered the Bush and Obama time period. As much as there are those that say Obama got bin-Laden they are incorrect. Seal Team 6 got bin-Laden, all Obama did was give the go order. Saying that Obama got bin-Laden would be the same as saying that Truman won WWII.

Of course... Obama only gets credit for being in charge of the military when Republicans want to accuse him of war crimes... Obama is currently catching a tremendous amount of flak from the right because of the NSA spying programs, which have been around since the Internet has.

 

[Dirty Penguin]

no one

Just the current administration or do you concede that neither administration has dealt with it in a coherent way? I'm at the point where I believe no administration can. There are too many variables to consider.

 

[Dirty Penguin]

As I stated before, there has not been any concerted policy set forth by this or the past administrations.

Then I must repeat my question...."What is the point of this thread"?...

 

[Dirty Penguin]

The point is to show that the Obama Administration didn't in fact deal a decimating blow to Al Qaeda by taking out Osama bin Laden and putting all of their top ranking officials on the run. The increased "chatter" is supposed to prove this. Apparently, since Al Qaeda still exists, that means Obama sucks.

Alqueda can't silenced...unless there's a concerted effort by muslims to silence them. Alqueda has been decimated but not destroyed. Various terrorist attacks can have little to do with Alqueda and everything to do with some small faction of extremism. I'm sure Alqueda isn't some centralized organization of terrorst...rather they are a splinter of extremist with far reaching abilities to cause small and large destruction. Taking out Osama was never viewed as the end of Alqueda and if people were thinking that then that's on them for being foolish to believe such a notion. Personally I believe Obama has been effective on terrorism but I'm sure others, who already dislike him for other reasons, feel differently about his record on terrorism.

 

[Dirty Penguin]

Do you really think that Obama found bin-Laden? If I remember correctly it was information obtained from various sources and at various times that covered the Bush and Obama time period. As much as there are those that say Obama got bin-Laden they are incorrect. Seal Team 6 got bin-Laden, all Obama did was give the go order. Saying that Obama got bin-Laden would be the same as saying that Truman won WWII.

He didn't "find him" per se...but I was with him in his second debate with McCain in 2008 when he said.....

Senator Barack Obama
"If Pakistan is unable or unwilling to hunt down and take out bin laden then we should..."

I believe that's what he did.....

 

[Dirty Penguin]

Of course... Obama only gets credit for being in charge of the military when Republicans want to accuse him of war crimes... Obama is currently catching a tremendous amount of flak from the right because of the NSA spying programs, which have been around since the Internet has.

And has had bipartisan support during its re-authorization....Don't get me wrong...I think the NSA and FBI need a little more oversight in this area but as an IT guy and an IT guy who worked for federal govt. I know how difficult it can be as technology advances and hackers become more savvy and sophisticate.

 

[Falvlun]

Alqueda can't silenced...unless there's a concerted effort by muslims to silence them. Alqueda has been decimated but not destroyed. Various terrorist attacks can have little to do with Alqueda and everything to do with some small faction of extremism. I'm sure Alqueda isn't some centralized organization of terrorst...rather they are a splinter of extremist with far reaching abilities to cause small and large destruction. Taking out Osama was never viewed as the end of Alqueda and if people were thinking that then that's on them for being foolish to believe such a notion. Personally I believe Obama has been effective on terrorism but I'm sure others, who already dislike him for other reasons, feel differently about his record on terrorism.

I agree.

I simply think that the Republican glee over this Al Qaeda chatter has more to do with acting as if the victories that the Obama administration has had against Al Qaeda were nothing. They need Obama to be a failure in everything, and since he hasn't failed on this account, they need to make it look like he has.

 

[Dirty Penguin]

I agree.

I simply think that the Republican glee over this Al Qaeda chatter has more to do with acting as if the victories that the Obama administration has had against Al Qaeda were nothing. They need Obama to be a failure in everything, and since he hasn't failed on this account, they need to make it look like he has.

Yeah, and this is where I was getting the impression the OP was headed in. I think that had the administration done nothing in the way of embassy closings and something happened then they the "right" would have more talking points about lives lost....but then he (the administration) goes ahead and closes embassy’s and they still can't seem to bring themselves to the point of offering credit where it is due for being proactive.

 

[I.S.L.A.M617]

And has had bipartisan support during its re-authorization....Don't get me wrong...I think the NSA and FBI need a little more oversight in this area but as an IT guy and an IT guy who worked for federal govt. I know how difficult it can be as technology advances and hackers become more savvy and sophisticate.

I personally have no problem with the NSA programs. I see no reason to be surprised that an espionage agency spies on people. As long as they're not beating my door down and carrying me off in the middle of the night (which they have no reason to do), I don't care what they do.

 

[Dirty Penguin]

I personally have no problem with the NSA programs. I see no reason to be surprised that an espionage agency spies on people. As long as they're not beating my door down and carrying me off in the middle of the night (which they have no reason to do), I don't care what they do.

Yeah, this is where I'm at. I personally haven't seem anything they (NSA/FBI) were/are doing that upsets me. It's got some libs and a lot of libertarians all upset as well as some conservatives....Many going on and on about their privacy and civil liberties that they freely give away daily over the internet.

 

[ignition]

Yeah, this is where I'm at. I personally haven't seem anything they (NSA/FBI) were/are doing that upsets me. It's got some libs and a lot of libertarians all upset as well as some conservatives....Many going on and on about their privacy and civil liberties that they freely give away daily over the internet.

Would you like to give me your password for your email and your religiousforums account please?

 

[I.S.L.A.M617]

Would you like to give me your password for your email and your religiousforums account please?

Is the NSA making posts for you?

 

[ignition]

Is the NSA making posts for you?

I want access to your sent/received emails please and also your post history of this site including frubals given and received and all PM's. You don't have to give me your password if you don't want it, you can print screen everything for me.