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Blessed [are] the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
(NKJV, Matthew 5:3)
And he lifted up his eyes on his disciples, and said, Blessed [are ye] poor: for yours is the kingdom of God.
(NKJV, Luke 6:20)
But woe to you that are rich! for ye have received your consolation.
(NKJV, Luke 6:24)
Jesus at different times blessed the poor and the poor in spirit and the Baha'i writings endorse both. Or perhaps they are slightly different remembrances of the same thing said by Jesus.
O Son of My Handmaid!
Be not troubled in poverty nor confident in riches, for poverty is followed by riches, and riches are followed by poverty. Yet to be poor in all save God is a wondrous gift, belittle not the value thereof, for in the end it will make thee rich in God, and thus thou shalt know the meaning of the utterance, “In truth ye are the poor,” and the holy words, “God is the all-possessing,” shall even as the true morn break forth gloriously resplendent upon the horizon of the lover’s heart, and abide secure on the throne of wealth.
, “The Hidden Words of Bahá’u’lláh” , p51
For some people, they have riches all their lives, especially when they are born in riches. However, they can't take their riches with them to the next life, and the rich tend to depend on their riches rather than God, so they can be poor spiritually. If we are confident in riches, we fall into the category of those who are rich and depend on their riches, rather than God, and thus we impoverish ourselves spiritually. We should trust in God, not in our riches.
Some people are poor materially all their lives, but poor people tend to trust in God, and look to God rather than money. In the end , this makes them rich spiritually. This is not universally true, though, we should recognize, despite it is appearing that Baha'u'llah is saying that. He's expressing a general principle to which there are exceptions. Likewise, there are exceptions to rich people allowing their riches to come in between them and God, as noted elsewhere in the Hidden Words. We should not be troubled in poverty, because we should pray to God to provide our material needs, and usually God will provide those. There are places in the world, though, we should recognize, where people chronically do not have enough, and they don't have enough food and shelter among other things. What God will provide for those people, though, is spiritually riches, if they reach for this. Also Abdu'l-Baha says that:
Those who suffer most, attain to the greatest perfection.
‘Abdu’l-Bahá, “Paris Talks” , 14.4
I should caution that this is not automatic. Suffering gives the potential to attain perfection. The greater the suffering the potential to gain perfection is greater.
That truth, though, is conditioned on the person keeping hold to the cord of God. Shoghi Effendi says this about the cord of God:
The word ‘cord’ so often mentioned in the Teachings means both the Faith itself and also the power of the Faith which sustains those who cling to it.
Shoghi Effendi, “Directives from the Guardian”
Some people suffer, and because they don't turn to God they don't get as much benefit as they could have. Even those who suffer a lot and have no faith, though, often have more empathy for those who suffer, especially those who suffer in the same way they did.
Suffering in the world is distributed unevenly, some suffer more than others. Some suffer so much, their character can be negatively affected. Those who have great faith can overcome this, but not everyone can do this. But for those who suffer more, God will recompense them more in the next life:
At first sight it may seem very unjust that the innocent should suffer for the guilty, but ‘Abdu’l-Bahá assures us that the injustice is only apparent and that, in the long run, perfect justice prevails. He writes:—
As to the subject of babes and children and weak ones who are afflicted by the hands of the oppressors … for those souls there is a recompense in another world … that suffering is the greatest mercy of God. Verily that mercy of the Lord is far better than all the comfort of this world and the growth and development appertaining to this place of mortality.
John E. Esslemont, “Bahá’u’lláh and the New Era” , 6.50
Baha'u'llah chimes in:
Say: Concourse of believers, be patient at what has befallen you and be not anxious concerning the harm and suffering that have afflicted you. He shall bestow full recompense upon the long-suffering.
Bahá’u’lláh, “City of Radiant Acquiescence”
Yet to be poor in all save God is a wondrous gift, belittle not the value thereof, for in the end it will make thee rich in God
This means to me focusing all of our attention on god's attributes, and striving to manifest those attributes in our life, and thus have God within us, in a sense. It means sacrificing our own human inclinations for those attributes, and thus be poor in our original human attributes, and rich in God.
and thus thou shalt know the meaning of the utterance, “In truth ye are the poor,” and the holy words, “God is the all-possessing,” shall even as the true morn break forth gloriously resplendent upon the horizon of the lover’s heart, and abide secure on the throne of wealth.
In the end, God possesses everything in the form of positive attributes, and is also the possessor of this material world. As is said in the long obligatory prayer:
O Lord of all being and Possessor of all things visible and invisible!
Bahá’u’lláh, “Prayers and Meditations” , 183.22
If you are poor in all but God, we will be wealthy in God. We are all the poor compared to God, we should get all our blessings from Him.
to be continued:
(NKJV, Matthew 5:3)
And he lifted up his eyes on his disciples, and said, Blessed [are ye] poor: for yours is the kingdom of God.
(NKJV, Luke 6:20)
But woe to you that are rich! for ye have received your consolation.
(NKJV, Luke 6:24)
Jesus at different times blessed the poor and the poor in spirit and the Baha'i writings endorse both. Or perhaps they are slightly different remembrances of the same thing said by Jesus.
O Son of My Handmaid!
Be not troubled in poverty nor confident in riches, for poverty is followed by riches, and riches are followed by poverty. Yet to be poor in all save God is a wondrous gift, belittle not the value thereof, for in the end it will make thee rich in God, and thus thou shalt know the meaning of the utterance, “In truth ye are the poor,” and the holy words, “God is the all-possessing,” shall even as the true morn break forth gloriously resplendent upon the horizon of the lover’s heart, and abide secure on the throne of wealth.
, “The Hidden Words of Bahá’u’lláh” , p51
For some people, they have riches all their lives, especially when they are born in riches. However, they can't take their riches with them to the next life, and the rich tend to depend on their riches rather than God, so they can be poor spiritually. If we are confident in riches, we fall into the category of those who are rich and depend on their riches, rather than God, and thus we impoverish ourselves spiritually. We should trust in God, not in our riches.
Some people are poor materially all their lives, but poor people tend to trust in God, and look to God rather than money. In the end , this makes them rich spiritually. This is not universally true, though, we should recognize, despite it is appearing that Baha'u'llah is saying that. He's expressing a general principle to which there are exceptions. Likewise, there are exceptions to rich people allowing their riches to come in between them and God, as noted elsewhere in the Hidden Words. We should not be troubled in poverty, because we should pray to God to provide our material needs, and usually God will provide those. There are places in the world, though, we should recognize, where people chronically do not have enough, and they don't have enough food and shelter among other things. What God will provide for those people, though, is spiritually riches, if they reach for this. Also Abdu'l-Baha says that:
Those who suffer most, attain to the greatest perfection.
‘Abdu’l-Bahá, “Paris Talks” , 14.4
I should caution that this is not automatic. Suffering gives the potential to attain perfection. The greater the suffering the potential to gain perfection is greater.
That truth, though, is conditioned on the person keeping hold to the cord of God. Shoghi Effendi says this about the cord of God:
The word ‘cord’ so often mentioned in the Teachings means both the Faith itself and also the power of the Faith which sustains those who cling to it.
Shoghi Effendi, “Directives from the Guardian”
Some people suffer, and because they don't turn to God they don't get as much benefit as they could have. Even those who suffer a lot and have no faith, though, often have more empathy for those who suffer, especially those who suffer in the same way they did.
Suffering in the world is distributed unevenly, some suffer more than others. Some suffer so much, their character can be negatively affected. Those who have great faith can overcome this, but not everyone can do this. But for those who suffer more, God will recompense them more in the next life:
At first sight it may seem very unjust that the innocent should suffer for the guilty, but ‘Abdu’l-Bahá assures us that the injustice is only apparent and that, in the long run, perfect justice prevails. He writes:—
As to the subject of babes and children and weak ones who are afflicted by the hands of the oppressors … for those souls there is a recompense in another world … that suffering is the greatest mercy of God. Verily that mercy of the Lord is far better than all the comfort of this world and the growth and development appertaining to this place of mortality.
John E. Esslemont, “Bahá’u’lláh and the New Era” , 6.50
Baha'u'llah chimes in:
Say: Concourse of believers, be patient at what has befallen you and be not anxious concerning the harm and suffering that have afflicted you. He shall bestow full recompense upon the long-suffering.
Bahá’u’lláh, “City of Radiant Acquiescence”
Yet to be poor in all save God is a wondrous gift, belittle not the value thereof, for in the end it will make thee rich in God
This means to me focusing all of our attention on god's attributes, and striving to manifest those attributes in our life, and thus have God within us, in a sense. It means sacrificing our own human inclinations for those attributes, and thus be poor in our original human attributes, and rich in God.
and thus thou shalt know the meaning of the utterance, “In truth ye are the poor,” and the holy words, “God is the all-possessing,” shall even as the true morn break forth gloriously resplendent upon the horizon of the lover’s heart, and abide secure on the throne of wealth.
In the end, God possesses everything in the form of positive attributes, and is also the possessor of this material world. As is said in the long obligatory prayer:
O Lord of all being and Possessor of all things visible and invisible!
Bahá’u’lláh, “Prayers and Meditations” , 183.22
If you are poor in all but God, we will be wealthy in God. We are all the poor compared to God, we should get all our blessings from Him.
to be continued: