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BLM and WLM

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
imagine how absolutely racist you have to be to put together such a biased unconnected set of videos, white people suck!!
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
Premium Member
Yes, humans are violent. They always have been and probably always will be. There has rarely been a time in history when there has not been a war.

But race *is* an issue. While all lives matter, it seems that people need to be reminded of this fact when it comes to black or brown lives.
 
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Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
if you think white lives matter more then you have the problem.
Never said that... can you pinpoint where I said that?

Whether George Floyd or innocent Granny.. there is a systemic problem.

What is the answer? I don't know. In the Christian perspective, a change of heart is the only answer.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Yes, humans are violent. They always have been and probably always will be. There has rarely been a time in history when there has not been a war.

But race *is* an issue. While all lives matter, it seems that people need to be reminded of this fact when it comes to black or brown lives.
Yes.... regardless of who on whom - we should be reminded.

thank you for your comment
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
The violence everywhere just churns my stomach. Where is this world heading to.
 

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
you're just perpetuating racism by posting a white lives matter video
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
Premium Member
The violence everywhere just churns my stomach. Where is this world heading to.

You seem to think this is a recent phenomenon. It isn't. Not by a LONG shot.

Overall, the world is slightly better than it was not long ago in this regard.

Slavery is no longer a thing in many places.

Women are no longer a suppressed voice in many places.

Torture is no longer seen as a defensible activity in many places.

The murder rate is MUCH lower than it was, say, 300 years ago in most places.

Do we need to be better? Absolutely. But I do think we are, very gradually, getting better.
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
Premium Member
Yes.... regardless of who on whom - we should be reminded.

thank you for your comment


Again the problem in *this* society is that black men get shot by police or otherwise killed for no good reason.

This isn't just person-on-person violence. it is a representative of our society killing someone and feeling that they can because of the race of the person being killed.

So, yes, violence is endemic in human nature. it always has been. it increases in areas experiencing poverty in close proximity to wealth. It increases when there is a sense of unfairness.

But the point of BLM is that, disproportionately, it is blacks that get killed, or ignored, or are refused basic resources.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
You seem to think this is a recent phenomenon. It isn't. Not by a LONG shot.

Overall, the world is slightly better than it was not long ago in this regard.

Slavery is no longer a thing in many places.

Women are no longer a suppressed voice in many places.

Torture is no longer seen as a defensible activity in many places.

The murder rate is MUCH lower than it was, say, 300 years ago in most places.

Do we need to be better? Absolutely. But I do think we are, very gradually, getting better.
I'm not so sure.

Slavery has been morphed into sex-trade and sex-slavery

Torture may not seen defensible but continues

Suppression of faith, torture of people of faith, seems to be on the rise.

it's like we have traded one problem with another.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Again the problem in *this* society is that black men get shot by police or otherwise killed for no good reason.

This isn't just person-on-person violence. it is a representative of our society killing someone and feeling that they can because of the race of the person being killed.

So, yes, violence is endemic in human nature. it always has been. it increases in areas experiencing poverty in close proximity to wealth. It increases when there is a sense of unfairness.

But the point of BLM is that, disproportionately, it is blacks that get killed, or ignored, or are refused basic resources.
Ive heard that statistically, whites are more apt to get shot than blacks. May have to research that.
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
Premium Member
I'm not so sure.

Slavery has been morphed into sex-trade and sex-slavery

Trades that have always existed, and to a greater degree.

Torture may not seen defensible but continues

While in the past, it was seen as defensible. That is, at least, an improvement.

Suppression of faith, torture of people of faith, seems to be on the rise.

it's like we have traded one problem with another.

And at a lower level of intensity. Again, it is *far* from being perfect, or even optimal.

But it is better.
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
I've come to the conclusion that it isn't a race problem but more of a heart problem that is being expressed in so many violent ways. Anger, hatred, unresolved issues.


Whether white on black
Black on white
Black on Black
White on White

or any other variation... something is systemically wrong

Are you going to balance this with an equivalent collection concerning whites attacking blacks or is that it? Are we expected to learn something from this - that all people can do such? What was your point?
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Again the problem in *this* society is that black men get shot by police or otherwise killed for no good reason.

This isn't just person-on-person violence. it is a representative of our society killing someone and feeling that they can because of the race of the person being
So, yes, violence is endemic in human nature. it always has been. it increases in areas experiencing poverty in close proximity to wealth. It increases when there is a sense of unfairness.

But the point of BLM is that, disproportionately, it is blacks that get killed, or ignored, or are refused basic resources.
found this:

New Study Says White Police Officers Are Not More Likely To Shoot Minority Suspects
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Are you going to balance this with an equivalent collection concerning whites attacking blacks or is that it? Are we expected to learn something from this - that all people can do such? What was your point?
We have already had a multiplicity of white attacking blacks -- no need to add to the already known list. My point that apparently it isn't one sided but rather a systemic problem
 
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