vaguelyhumanoid
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So literally all sexual desire is unhealthy?
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So literally all sexual desire is unhealthy?
Gambit
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I didn't say that. I said "healthy lust" is an oxymoron.
vaguelyhumanoid
Active Member
What kind of non-lustful sexual desire is there, then? I feel like you might be redefining lust compared to the colloquial sense.
Rick O'Shez
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Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
Perhaps in the Biblical sense. Otherwise lust is well, just lust.
HonestJoe
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I’d never really heard the term and it sounds to me like it could be used to refer to a wide range of different things in different contexts, good, bad or indifferent.
The example you referred to of a couple deciding to stop having sex until their wedding night strikes me as a harmless personal choice. I can see the logic of want to create the special event element of the wedding night that it traditionally (theoretically) had. Really just an extension of the tradition of not seeing each other on the wedding day. I don’t see how it’s any of my business if, when or why they choose to have sex.
The example you referred to of a couple deciding to stop having sex until their wedding night strikes me as a harmless personal choice. I can see the logic of want to create the special event element of the wedding night that it traditionally (theoretically) had. Really just an extension of the tradition of not seeing each other on the wedding day. I don’t see how it’s any of my business if, when or why they choose to have sex.
Gambit
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Gambit
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The Scriptures are fairly clear on lust.
"For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would." - Galatians 5:17
In and of itself, the term merely means a biological sexual desire. If one lets it control their thinking, their life, etc...then, to me, that is where the problem comes in.
Gambit
Well-Known Member
There's a difference between a healthy sexual desire and an unhealthy sexual desire. We call the latter lust. (The term "lust" generally has a negative connotation. I don't think there is any doubt about that.)
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Gambit
Well-Known Member
Yes, Moreover, it can be construed as lust even within the strictures of marriage.
Terrywoodenpic
Oldest Heretic
Lots of Questions about it.
Lust as a word is not concerned with Religion, spirituality or Health or indeed sin.
It needs to be qualified to take any of those meanings.
Lust is Lust ... a fairly extreme sexual desire...
It can be seen as wrong or sinful when directed outside marriage.
It is fine when directed and shared with a spouse.
In both cases it describes the same physiological urge
Terrywoodenpic
Oldest Heretic
There are not many people in any religion, or none, that have not desired or "fancied" some one they are not married to. However rather fewer follow through.
But then we are all Sinners....
Gambit
Well-Known Member
Lust is a craving. And cravings are unhealthy. The problem is that most people who have cravings can not distinguish between what is a healthy desire and what is not. Herein lies the problem.